Firms with Obama ties profit from health push

SAWYER

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WASHINGTON ? President Barack Obama's push for a national health care overhaul is providing a financial windfall in the election offseason to Democratic consulting firms that are closely connected to the president and two top advisers.

Coalitions of interest groups running at least $24 million in pro-overhaul ads hired GMMB, which worked for Obama's 2008 campaign and whose partners include a top Obama campaign strategist. They also hired AKPD Message and Media, which was founded by David Axelrod, a top adviser to Obama's campaign and now to the White House. AKPD did work for Obama's campaign, and Axelrod's son Michael and Obama's campaign manager David Plouffe work there.

The firms were hired by Americans for Stable Quality Care and its predecessor, Healthy Economy Now. Each was formed by a coalition of interests with big stakes in health care policy, including the drug maker lobby PhRMA, the American Medical Association, the Service Employees International Union and Families USA, which calls itself "The Voice for Health Care Consumers."

Their ads press for changes in health care policy. Healthy Economy Now made one of the same arguments that Obama does: that health care costs are delaying the country's economic recovery and that changes are needed if the economy is to rebound.

There is no evidence that Axelrod directly profited from the group's ads. Axelrod took steps to separate himself from AKPD when he joined Obama's White House. AKPD owes him $2 million from his stock sale and will make preset payments over four years, starting with $350,000 on Dec. 31, according to Axelrod's personal financial disclosure report.

A larger issue is a network of relationships and overlapping interests that resembles some seen in past administrations and could prove a problem as Obama tries to win the public over on health care and fulfill his promise to change the way Washington works, said Sheila Krumholz, executive director of the Center for Responsive Politics, a government watchdog group.

"Even if these are obvious bedfellows and kind of standard PR maneuvers, it still stands to undercut Obama's credibility," Krumholz said. "The potential takeaway from the public is 'friends in cahoots to engineer a grass roots result.'"

White House spokesman Ben LaBolt said that Axelrod has had no communications with Healthy Economy Now or with Americans for Stable Quality Care, and his payments aren't affected by the ad contracts. Axelrod's son, a salaried AKPD employee, doesn't work with either coalition "or stand to benefit from that work," LaBolt said.

"David Axelrod has fully complied with the toughest-ever ethics rules for administration officials, including divesting from AKPD before the administration began," LaBolt said.

Ken Johnson, a PhRMA senior vice president, said GMMB and AKPD were the only two firms working on the $24 million in ads. He declined to reveal how much each was paid beyond saying that each received a small percentage of the total. The coalition's campaign team decided to hire the two firms, he said.

"In a perfect world, it's a distraction we don't need right now, but these are very gifted consultants who have done very good work," Johnson said. "And it's also important to remember that at the end of the day, the coalition partners determine the message."

Healthy Economy Now spokesman Jeremy Van Ess said the two firms were hired because "they are the best at what they do. Period." The coalition didn't seek approval or direction on any of its activities from the White House, said Van Ess, a partner in a consulting firm that has worked on Democratic Senate election activities and a former speechwriter for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.

AKPD and GMMB both proudly proclaim their connections to Obama on their Web sites.

AKPD has a full page on Axelrod that includes pictures of Obama. In one photo, Obama hugs Plouffe on election night.

"We are deeply honored to have been part of Barack Obama's historic campaign to change America and the world," GMMB says on its Web site. GMMB's partners include Jim Margolis, a senior strategist for Obama's presidential campaign.

Both GMMB and AKPD also have worked for Democrats this year. The Democratic National Committee paid AKPD at least $106,000 for polling, media production, communication consulting and travel costs from February through April. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee paid GMMB roughly $75,000 from February through June for ads. And GMMB took in at least $9,000 this year from Senate leader Reid's political action committee for communications consulting.

I personally am neutral on this and not surprised one bit, but when is the CHANGE! going to occur?
 

theflyingpig

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when is the CHANGE! going to occur?

Never. Obama is just like everyone else before him, he is just better at manipulating fools. That is what makes a good president after all. Everyone knows this.
 

xj0hnx

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Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
i agree profits in health care are bad. Lets get rid of them all.

Yea, that's smart, eliminate one of the major incentives for people to go into the field because of class envy, that'll show 'em.
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: xj0hnx
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
i agree profits in health care are bad. Lets get rid of them all.

Yea, that's smart, eliminate one of the major incentives for people to go into the field because of class envy, that'll show 'em.

Huh? since when do salaries = profits? Doc's can make all the money they make now, perhaps even more, without the profiteers running (ruining?) all the hospitals.
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: Sawyer
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I personally am neutral on this and not surprised one bit, but when is the CHANGE! going to occur?

When WE see these kind of thing happening in other countries, we label it as WIDE SPREAD CORRUPTION Here, it is just politics. Same tricks, new dog.
 

Patranus

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but...but...but....he promised change?!!??!
but...but...but...he promised no special interest groups in the white house?!?!?!?
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Patranus
but...but...but....he promised change?!!??!
but...but...but...he promised no special interest groups in the white house?!?!?!?

If Obama and the Dems are just as bad as the Pubs, then what are the Pubs offering? Or are you saying that the Pubs are better because at least they don't have any good intentions in the first place?
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Patranus
but...but...but....he promised change?!!??!
but...but...but...he promised no special interest groups in the white house?!?!?!?

If Obama and the Dems are just as bad as the Pubs, then what are the Pubs offering? Or are you saying that the Pubs are better because at least they don't have any good intentions in the first place?

When you run on a platform and then immediately start doing/allowing what you ran against, it is worse than having made no commitment in the first place.

Generates the impression that one knowing lied to get there; in Obama's case, he had been in Washington long enough to know that he was making promises that he could not keep. but by stating what the people wanted to hear, rather than the truth; he was able to pull the wool over enough eyes to be able to start to do the damage, rather than the repair that he sold to the public.

 

Budmantom

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This is the most transparent dictator ever, just ask him.

We also have the most ethical congress ever, this is the democratic party.
 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Patranus
but...but...but....he promised change?!!??!
but...but...but...he promised no special interest groups in the white house?!?!?!?

If Obama and the Dems are just as bad as the Pubs, then what are the Pubs offering? Or are you saying that the Pubs are better because at least they don't have any good intentions in the first place?


Vic, do you share your kool-aid like a good socialist?
 

xj0hnx

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Originally posted by: feralkid
Originally posted by: xj0hnx
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
i agree profits in health care are bad. Lets get rid of them all.

Yea, that's smart, eliminate one of the major incentives for people to go into the field because of class envy, that'll show 'em.

Huh? since when do salaries = profits? Doc's can make all the money they make now, perhaps even more, without the profiteers running (ruining?) all the hospitals.

Salaries? No one said salaries, stop making shit up.

What does the looney left have against profit anyway?
 

Fingolfin269

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A politician's buddies getting rich because of actions taken by the politician on their behalf? I'm shocked.
 

RyanPaulShaffer

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Change!*

*The only change is which corrupt politicians are getting bribed and which companies are getting favors.
 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: xj0hnx
Originally posted by: feralkid
Originally posted by: xj0hnx
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
i agree profits in health care are bad. Lets get rid of them all.

Yea, that's smart, eliminate one of the major incentives for people to go into the field because of class envy, that'll show 'em.

Huh? since when do salaries = profits? Doc's can make all the money they make now, perhaps even more, without the profiteers running (ruining?) all the hospitals.

Salaries? No one said salaries, stop making shit up.

What does the looney left have against profit anyway?

It's too American for their liking.

 

Moonbeam

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I am really pissed at Obama. I was brutalized as a child by my parents. They taught me to hate everybody and compete, to walk on top of others, and I learned those lessons well. I have worked hard my whole life to prove I am worthy and now I have a fabulous job, a great car, and lots of money. I have arrived. I have the best health care that money can buy and I am proud. I am a winner and the best of the best and I know it when I look around. I see the filthy bums in the street, and the assholes who can't get a job, and I see the folk who suffer unhealthily for their sloth just as God intended.

I see the worthless all around me and along comes that curse Obama to fight against the will of God. He wants to help the worthless and make them as successful as me. Fuck that little asshole. I got great all by myself and I want to stay that way. All those worthless shit he wants to help are the stepping stones I use to keep me high and dry. That prick Obama isn't going to undercut me. Any fucker who is sick can go to church and prey. God helps the worthy, people like me.

And one more thing. You other assholes that hate Obama too. You are still scum too because you're not as good as me. I'll walk on your fucking heads too, just as soon as I get a chance.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
i agree profits in health care are bad. Lets get rid of them all.

When these non-profit coops fail to stem the tide of increasing costs. What argument will you fall back onto?
 

shadow9d9

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Patranus
but...but...but....he promised change?!!??!
but...but...but...he promised no special interest groups in the white house?!?!?!?

If Obama and the Dems are just as bad as the Pubs, then what are the Pubs offering? Or are you saying that the Pubs are better because at least they don't have any good intentions in the first place?


Vic, do you share your kool-aid like a good socialist?

You have no clue what socialism is.

Btw, socialism is only a boogey man fear word.

Look at how great capitalism is. A few got rich while plunging the whole worlds' markets and causing the losses of millions upon millions of jobs.
 

shadow9d9

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
i agree profits in health care are bad. Lets get rid of them all.

When these non-profit coops fail to stem the tide of increasing costs. What argument will you fall back onto?

The coops are what the Republicans want instead of real reform. Blame them.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
i agree profits in health care are bad. Lets get rid of them all.

When these non-profit coops fail to stem the tide of increasing costs. What argument will you fall back onto?

The coops are what the Republicans want instead of real reform. Blame them.

Who wants them is irrelevant. JStorm and many others blame private insurance proft motive for the problems within our healthcare system. When non-profit coops fail to stem the cost of the system. I am asking what argument will he and others like him fall back on?
 

xj0hnx

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Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Patranus
but...but...but....he promised change?!!??!
but...but...but...he promised no special interest groups in the white house?!?!?!?

If Obama and the Dems are just as bad as the Pubs, then what are the Pubs offering? Or are you saying that the Pubs are better because at least they don't have any good intentions in the first place?


Vic, do you share your kool-aid like a good socialist?

You have no clue what socialism is.

Btw, socialism is only a boogey man fear word.

Look at how great capitalism is. A few got rich while plunging the whole worlds' markets and causing the losses of millions upon millions of jobs.

They didn't do it by themselves. They had help from millions of people that wanted to live outside their means. Does anyone stop to think that maybe a large part of these skyrocketing prices have a lot to do with people not paying their bills? Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
 

Patranus

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Originally posted by: xj0hnx
They didn't do it by themselves. They had help from millions of people that wanted to live outside their means. Does anyone stop to think that maybe a large part of these skyrocketing prices have a lot to do with people not paying their bills? Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Whats any different between a Democrat controlled government and these banks that offered these zero down loans?

 

shadow9d9

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
i agree profits in health care are bad. Lets get rid of them all.

When these non-profit coops fail to stem the tide of increasing costs. What argument will you fall back onto?

The coops are what the Republicans want instead of real reform. Blame them.

Who wants them is irrelevant. JStorm and many others blame private insurance proft motive for the problems within our healthcare system. When non-profit coops fail to stem the cost of the system. I am asking what argument will he and others like him fall back on?

Real reform that may not get through now instead of watered down republican compromises.
 

shadow9d9

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Originally posted by: xj0hnx
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Patranus
but...but...but....he promised change?!!??!
but...but...but...he promised no special interest groups in the white house?!?!?!?

If Obama and the Dems are just as bad as the Pubs, then what are the Pubs offering? Or are you saying that the Pubs are better because at least they don't have any good intentions in the first place?


Vic, do you share your kool-aid like a good socialist?

You have no clue what socialism is.

Btw, socialism is only a boogey man fear word.

Look at how great capitalism is. A few got rich while plunging the whole worlds' markets and causing the losses of millions upon millions of jobs.

They didn't do it by themselves. They had help from millions of people that wanted to live outside their means. Does anyone stop to think that maybe a large part of these skyrocketing prices have a lot to do with people not paying their bills? Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

It is the responsibility of the lender who is in BUSINESS to protect their company by making responsible loans. Instead, a handful hijacked them, walked away with millions, the businesses failed, and the world plunged.

Without the business(capitalism), it wouldn't have happened. And greed runs rampant with disastrous results for the world, because of it. And it continues to happen every 20-30 years.