Firefox with Yahoo mail is plain text only?

[Robor]

Just started using Firefox a few months ago. I like the browser for the most part. So far only Firepay.com has been the only site that hasn't worked properly. My main gripe is when I go to Yahoo Mail to compose a message I can't find a way to use HTML instead of Plain Text. Is this possible?

 

[rh71]

this feature is only available with IE 5.5+ ... details

It's not that you can't use HTML code in the body yourself... FF just doesn't seem to be able to produce the rich text elements in the textarea like IE can, it seems.

 

[n0cmonkey]

HTML email is the devil.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: rh71

this feature is only available with IE 5.5+ ... details

It's not that you can't use HTML code in the body yourself... FF just doesn't seem to be able to produce the rich text elements in the textarea like IE can, it seems.

If that's the case then why can IE do it and Firefox can't? I've searched the 'net high and low and I haven't found a reason or workaround.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
HTML email is the devil.

Why? Email in plain text looks like ass. HTML format Email is easier to write, read, and looks more professional.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
HTML email is the devil.

Why? Email in plain text looks like ass. HTML format Email is easier to write, read, and looks more professional.

HTML email is complicated, can add plenty of security and privacy issues, hard to read in basic email clients, impossible to read in others, looks like a trashy woman from new jersey. There is nothing professional about it, and it should be shunned by the educated internet population. Leave it for the hotmailers.

 

[neit]

I agree with n0cmonkey. Though I don't shun people for sending me HTML mail (hmm, perhaps I should start...), when doing general communication with people and mass mailing, you can not be sure of what email client they use or what security settings they have. Using HTML enabled email with graphics is even worse, since including the graphics in the mail can balloon its size, but having external links is a no-no.

I use email to convey general text messages, and I presume that?s what n0c uses email for also. HTML mail may work with an internal network where you know everyone uses outlook or whatever, but otherwise my goal is to tell someone something, not to add pizzazz visually. HTML email to me is like having an all flash website, completely unnecessary and adds work for your audience just to experience it.

EDIT:
I focused on one portion of the thread and ignored the parent's question. I don't know the answer to your question, sorry. Though I hope my message convinces some people to use plain text messages where HTML isn't needed (especially when sending out bulk messages to clubs, etc).

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
HTML email is the devil.

^^^

 

[Robor]

Support: So because a small percentage of users use Email clients that don't support HTML well everyone should use plain text? By that thinking I guess they should stop rolling out hi-def TV as well. I mean, it costs a fortune in hardware to implement, uses way more bandwidth, way more disk space, and not everyone has a compatible TV. What's the point, right? Outlook and Outlook Express dominate the desktop Email client market in home and corporate use and both support HTML just fine. I can already hear the response to that - "not everyone bows down to Microsoft...". Maybe true, but a vast majority of home and corporate desktops are Microsoft based and they work just fine with HTML.

Security: As far as security, everyone should be running a virus scanner these days. Most Email viruses are triggered by stupid users launching attachments anyway. Plain text isn't going to prevent that.

Size: If you're sending graphics in a message why would it make a difference if it's embedded or attached? Either way the graphic is going to be there so size isn't really an issue. I don't put images (screenshots for example) in the body of my message but at least the option is there if you want to.

Appearance: Plain text Email is nothing special, maybe more standardized/accepted but that doesn't mean it looks good. To me it's just limiting - you can't do things like bold, italic, underline, change color, etc in plain. HTML Email can do all of that and more. Maybe some don't feel those options are necessary in Email communication but I like having the option. It's quicker and easier to do that in short Emails than having to create a document and attach it.

 

[Nithin]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
HTML email is the devil.

^^^

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Nithin

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
HTML email is the devil.

^^^

Meh, if you're gonna do that spit some reasons.

 

[neit]

Can you not send an html message by writing out the HTML? I don't use yahoo mail so I don't know how it messes with stuff, but I think the issue is that its not bringing the push button menu that probably exists in IE. Try sending an email with HTML written in by hand and see if it works that way.

As an aside, this whole thread was conducted in plain text, i personally didn't think bolds, italics, fonts, etc would have contributed to making the thread any easier to follow. Its just my opinion and I hope you consider using plain text for email, its not the style that matters but the content, and someone applying html/visual styles poorly to a message really detracts from the content and makes it more difficult to follow.

 

[MrChad]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
HTML email is the devil.

Why? Email in plain text looks like ass. HTML format Email is easier to write, read, and looks more professional.

HTML email is complicated, can add plenty of security and privacy issues, hard to read in basic email clients, impossible to read in others, looks like a trashy woman from new jersey. There is nothing professional about it, and it should be shunned by the educated internet population. Leave it for the hotmailers.

By the same token, plain text email clients insert line breaks at seemingly random points. A plain text email that I compose in Outlook may look like this when the recipient reads it:

Jim,

Can you take a
look
at these error
messages?

At least with HTML, I can be relatively assured that the format is preserved (assuming that the recipient is using an email client that renders HTML).

 

[rh71]

Robor just wants it to look pretty. I tested it. Yahoo in FF simply doesn't display the toolbox that makes all the pretty HTML effects. You can write HTML by hand (or paste it in there) and it would be up to the recipient's client to decipher it. HTML emails are not widely accepted. I know I leave my option at plain text because loading HTML in an email is a way spammers can get you (you may be loading images from their server).

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: rh71
Robor just wants it to look pretty. I tested it. Yahoo in FF simply doesn't display the toolbox that makes all the pretty HTML effects. You can write HTML by hand (or paste it in there) and it would be up to the recipient's client to decipher it. HTML emails are not widely accepted. I know I leave my option at plain text because loading HTML in an email is a way spammers can get you (you may be loading images from their server).

Plain text Email in Yahoo is awful, period. As far as spammers, I couldn't care less about them. The account I'm talking about is my Yahoo spam account and Yahoo does a pretty good job of filtering. 99% of the spam I get goes directly to my bulk folder.

HTML Emails are widely accepted. As I said before, most end users are on Outlook/Outlook Express and it handles it just fine. So do most if not all of the webmail sites.