Firefox updated and now this is a thing...

[Crono]

They're going retro...

Hipsters...

Even hieroglyphs are alphabetic.

 

[Captante]

Hmm I always forget about Opera and it looks like they have a Linux version. I might do that. I think it might be time for me to dump Firefox too. Sick of their crap.

Bad news is the newest versions of Opera are based on Chrome. (at least the Windows versions not sure about Linux)

Just can't win.

 

[Jeff7]

They're going retro...

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Hipsters...

Bleh. I'm going upstairs to get out my Angry Old Man Shakin' Cane.

 

[rh71]

If you're referring to the icons for Back, Reload, and Bookmark, I'm fine with those as I'm used to it from Chrome already. I hope they don't expand it to more though.

 

[Capt Caveman]

I don't know why there is so much crying. Easy to change it back with an add-on.

 

[Jeff7]

I don't know why there is so much crying. Easy to change it back with an add-on.

"Mozilla has decided to change the font of the Firefox logo, so the version number has been incremented to 87.0. Twenty percent of your addons won't work until the authors update their code to work with Mozilla's psychotically-increasing version numbers. You're welcome."

 

[BlitzPuppet]

I'm on cyberfox and am happy.

 

[Red Storm]

I'm not understanding the annoyance? They updated the context menu to be leaner by turning the navigation and reload text into their well recognized icon format, and retained all the same functionality.

 

[TwiceOver]

So you have to right-click before you can click a back button? That'd take some getting used to.

 

[Capt Caveman]

"Mozilla has decided to change the font of the Firefox logo, so the version number has been incremented to 87.0. Twenty percent of your addons won't work until the authors update their code to work with Mozilla's psychotically-increasing version numbers. You're welcome."

Don't have that issue.

 

[Ketchup]

I'm not understanding the annoyance? ...

Same here. The big change was at 30. I already am used to it. I looked at the right-click menu today, and I like it.

But I never use the right-click menu, but that's more of a habit thing. I use the forward and back buttons on my mouse, and I would never buy a mouse without them.

Pale Moon is a fine browser. I have used it for a brief period, and it is like Firefox. In fact, it was exactly like Firefox at the time! So I don't know why I would leave Firefox to use it.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

People need to start learning keyboard shortcuts. I don't notice any of the stupid UI changes because I don't use any of them/

 

[Greenman]

I just went to DL pale moon using the first google link and avast thinks it's a virus.

 

[lxskllr]

I just went to DL pale moon using the first google link and avast thinks it's a virus.

Should be palemoon.org. Sensible search engines show you the official site ;^)

 

[Ichinisan]

Same here. The big change was at 30. I already am used to it. I looked at the right-click menu today, and I like it.

But I never use the right-click menu, but that's more of a habit thing. I use the forward and back buttons on my mouse, and I would never buy a mouse without them.

Pale Moon is a fine browser. I have used it for a brief period, and it is like Firefox. In fact, it was exactly like Firefox at the time! So I don't know why I would leave Firefox to use it.

I was thinking it would be useful for a laptop.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Yeah, I'm back to Opera because Firefox and Chromium updates have gotten annoying. I wish they wouldn't mess with the UI without an easy, obvious way to roll back those UI changes.

Didn't Opera switch to using Chromium base? I thought they switched to the same underlying thing that Chrome is using?

"Mozilla has decided to change the font of the Firefox logo, so the version number has been incremented to 87.0. Twenty percent of your addons won't work until the authors update their code to work with Mozilla's psychotically-increasing version numbers. You're welcome."

I haven't had any issue with add-ons (hell even Flash hasn't been causing problems like it used to, where you'd update Flash and it'd fuck up/crash in Firefox occasionally for about a week until they updated it) on Firefox in quite a while. Basically since they switched from version 4.xx to the newer version numbers Firefox updating has not broken add-ons for me.

Also AdBlock works sooo much better on Firefox than Chrome it's not even funny. The "Select an Element to Hide" option is great, it allows me to remove tons of shit on sites (like on Facebook, you can remove the sidebar junk, the "People you May Know" banner they put right on your page, and there's a bunch of others, it makes it so you don't have to mess with Greasemonkey and similar programs, you can just click what you want gone and it's gone).

I also really fucking hate that Chrome still will fuckup stuff like middle clicks. For me, middle clicks will often not open a new tab and instead function as a normal left-click. Sometimes it'll both open a new tab and function like a left-click.

I'm not understanding the annoyance? They updated the context menu to be leaner by turning the navigation and reload text into their well recognized icon format, and retained all the same functionality.

Me either. There's very little actual change, and what there is seems like it would be useful, especially if you don't have a mouse.

My guess is they're trying to make their mobile and desktop versions have similar look/control, since the desktop is increasingly being used on touchscreens.

My only minor issue with Firefox was the big UI change they did at 30 or whenever it was, but that was fixed easily with Classic Theme Restorer or whatever, so it looks the same for me. And it was really only annoying because I had put in some work to adjust things how I wanted.

I had some problems with Firefox and memory in like the past year (which is weird because I never did back when there was known memory leak problems for quite a bunch of people several years back), but that appears to have been largely resolved too.

Firefox still works the best for me. Most of the crap people complain about is getting stupid (they complain about the UI change which I can understand only how many people who said it made them switch to Chrome which looks the same and isn't as customizable in functionality; or the people complaining about the version numbers like that matters at all).

 

[Jeff7]

Don't have that issue.

How many addons have you got?

I'm at somewhere around 25. Probably more.

 

[lxskllr]

How many addons have you got?

I'm at somewhere around 25. Probably more.

You can force compatibility. I use the NightlyTesterTools addon. A bit harder, you can hack around in the .xpi to make the addon compatible. Sometimes it's just a soft failure where the dev lists the compatible versions, and changing that number will make it compatible. Otherwise, if you can code, and the addon is free enough(not necessarily libre software, but unobfuscated code), you can change it yourself.

 

[TwiceOver]

Chrome updated on my phone and now the refresh button is on the context menu. Ugh.

 

[markosb]

Firefox sucks.

Go install Firefox 29, and set the options to NEVER update. Now, watch it magically update to Firefox 30. It's total bullshit. The people who make the browser will NOT address this at all, it's been asked on their forums over and over, they say to set a certain option, blah blah, and when users report it has no affect, they are basically asked "Why don't you want to upgrade?".

I'm using FF 24 ESR and will until it starts magically updating itself too.

Yeah, that's the curse of the rolling release. They need you to update because they don't separately maintain different releases of the browser (it's not like they support Firefox 28 after they publish 29) Or am I wrong?

 

[Jeff7]

You can force compatibility. I use the NightlyTesterTools addon. A bit harder, you can hack around in the .xpi to make the addon compatible. Sometimes it's just a soft failure where the dev lists the compatible versions, and changing that number will make it compatible. Otherwise, if you can code, and the addon is free enough(not necessarily libre software, but unobfuscated code), you can change it yourself.

I'll throw this one into the mix. That'll be Addon #27.

I'd used the MrTech addon, which was very nice. But they stopped updating that a few years ago. :\
So the extension that enabled "incompatible" addons was itself facing impending incompatibility.

 

[darkxshade]

Why use Pale Moon when you can get Male Poon!

 

[Jeff7]

Why use Pale Moon when you can get Male Poon!

Or a grease(d)monkey.

 

[cubby1223]

Pale Moon is far, far too new.

SeaMonkey is the way to go! Context menus are the same as they were in the Netscape 4 days

 

[Crono]

I've been using a different Firefox-based browser than Palemoon:
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/

Still using Opera as my main browser, though.