Firefox Icon - Taking a byte out of MSIE

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Deeko
You morons are missing what I'm saying.

Maybe IE fixes wrong code. I don't really see a problem with that...better than having a page that doesn't display right.

What Firefox does is display code that IS right WRONG.

Which is worse?

:roll:
I've personally witnessed IE refuse to display pages properly until ALL line breaks were removed from the HTML. I've seen other quirks like that with IE. And I've NEVER had the sort of problems you're describing with Firefox (of course I haven't worked with it as long either).
And to hell with you for calling people who disagree with you "morons."

 

[Stunt]

My firefox is using 105MB...
Kinda nuts, but great browser.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Deeko
You morons are missing what I'm saying.

Maybe IE fixes wrong code. I don't really see a problem with that...better than having a page that doesn't display right.

What Firefox does is display code that IS right WRONG.

Which is worse?

:roll:
I've personally witnessed IE refuse to display pages properly until ALL line breaks were removed from the HTML. I've seen other quirks like that with IE. And I've NEVER had the sort of problems you're describing with Firefox (of course I haven't worked with it as long either).
And to hell with you for calling people who disagree with you "morons."

Awwww I hurt the poor kids feelings

You people are morons for repeating yourselves over and over and not listening to what your dissenters are saying, not for disagreeing with me.

The only page I've ever seen IE have problems with was a page a professor of mine SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED to work in no browser other than Firefox because he wanted to get all the students to switch to firefox. Kinda sad that it has to come to that, don't you think?

 

[ITJunkie]

Originally posted by: DurocShark
:laugh:

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

* More accurate rendering engine Check
* Secure

http://secunia.com/product/4932/

The Secunia database currently contains 0 Secunia advisories marked as "Unpatched", which affects Opera 8.x.

http://secunia.com/product/4227/

Mozilla Firefox 1.x with all vendor patches installed and all vendor workarounds applied, is currently affected by one or more Secunia advisories rated Moderately critical

Currently, 6 out of 19 Secunia advisories, is marked as "Unpatched" in the Secunia database.

Yep, safer than FireFox Check

* features

Has more features than you can shake a stick at Check

Security, rendering, and feature rich. Those are all the reasons I here you guys switching to FF give for abandoning IE Come on over, we won't bite

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Deeko
You morons are missing what I'm saying.

Maybe IE fixes wrong code. I don't really see a problem with that...better than having a page that doesn't display right.

What Firefox does is display code that IS right WRONG.

Which is worse?

:roll:
I've personally witnessed IE refuse to display pages properly until ALL line breaks were removed from the HTML. I've seen other quirks like that with IE. And I've NEVER had the sort of problems you're describing with Firefox (of course I haven't worked with it as long either).
And to hell with you for calling people who disagree with you "morons."

Awwww I hurt the poor kids feelings

You people are morons for repeating yourselves over and over and not listening to what your dissenters are saying, not for disagreeing with me.

The only page I've ever seen IE have problems with was a page a professor of mine SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED to work in no browser other than Firefox because he wanted to get all the students to switch to firefox. Kinda sad that it has to come to that, don't you think?

Not any sadder than you defending a browser that isn't any better than FF or Opera.
You're just as much of a moron as any of us. I haven't seen these problems with FF, and you haven't seen them with IE.
I gave you an example of a page I witnessed first-hand that IE would not display properly when the code was perfect. Not until the code was mangled would your precious IE show it the way every other brower (including the venerable Netscape 4.7) does. That's not the only time it's happened.
And who are you calling a "kid?"

 

[ITJunkie]

Okay...I'm not sure what's up with your systems but here is what task manager is showing on mine:
Firefox.exe=26,716k
iexplore.exe=30,648k

FWIW

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Deeko
You morons are missing what I'm saying.

Maybe IE fixes wrong code. I don't really see a problem with that...better than having a page that doesn't display right.

What Firefox does is display code that IS right WRONG.

Which is worse?

:roll:
I've personally witnessed IE refuse to display pages properly until ALL line breaks were removed from the HTML. I've seen other quirks like that with IE. And I've NEVER had the sort of problems you're describing with Firefox (of course I haven't worked with it as long either).
And to hell with you for calling people who disagree with you "morons."

Awwww I hurt the poor kids feelings

You people are morons for repeating yourselves over and over and not listening to what your dissenters are saying, not for disagreeing with me.

The only page I've ever seen IE have problems with was a page a professor of mine SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED to work in no browser other than Firefox because he wanted to get all the students to switch to firefox. Kinda sad that it has to come to that, don't you think?

Not any sadder than you defending a browser that isn't any better than FF or Opera.
You're just as much of a moron as any of us. I haven't seen these problems with FF, and you haven't seen them with IE.
I gave you an example of a page I witnessed first-hand that IE would not display properly when the code was perfect. Not until the code was mangled would your precious IE show it the way every other brower (including the venerable Netscape 4.7) does. That's not the only time it's happened.
And who are you calling a "kid?"

Obviously you.

I'm not saying IE is a great, perfect browser. Point to where I said that. I'm saying its as good or better than Firefox, and I get so tired of hearing geeks sucking that fox's cock while bashing IE constantly.

 

[knyghtbyte]

to be honest i've never had any problems using IE......very rare i cant visit a website or something on it doesnt display properly...in fact i had more problems with firefox..lol

oh and speed wise its not noticeable which is quicker if ur puter is reasonably fast anyway.....

tbh i couldnt give a monkeys ass...i have both on my computer, if one cant do something i use the other.....my bb supplier gives me a modified IE based web portal that i use on a daily basis anyhow so i usually stick to that, if i visit a site that dont work i try firefox...

*shrugs*.....

i think people who claim its quicker are the kind of people that believe jumping a red light to get home quicker really makes a massive time difference to their journey....lol...and with browsers we talking bloody microseconds here...lol..

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: Deeko
I get so tired of hearing geeks sucking that fox's cock while bashing IE constantly.

Now THAT is something to drink to. :beer:

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Deeko
I'm not saying IE is a great, perfect browser. Point to where I said that. I'm saying its as good or better than Firefox, and I get so tired of hearing geeks sucking that fox's cock while bashing IE constantly.

Okay:

Originally posted by: Deeko
I never get spyware with IE. I never get popups with IE(and my google toolbar only has 13 popups blocked). I never get a page that doesn't render incorrectly. I don't have to deal with horrible tabbed browsing.

That sounds kinda like saying IE is a great, perfect browser, just in different words.
As good as FF? Maybe, after you install third party plugins. Better? Not really.

 

[skace]

I use IE.

 

[JonTom]

Originally posted by: sharkeeper
I enlarged the firefox icon and thought this was very interesting!

Icon Enlarged

You must have one of those image enhancement algorithms like they got on CSI to make the little icon so clear

I want to be able to do that!

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Deeko
I'm not saying IE is a great, perfect browser. Point to where I said that. I'm saying its as good or better than Firefox, and I get so tired of hearing geeks sucking that fox's cock while bashing IE constantly.

Okay:

Originally posted by: Deeko
I never get spyware with IE. I never get popups with IE(and my google toolbar only has 13 popups blocked). I never get a page that doesn't render incorrectly. I don't have to deal with horrible tabbed browsing.

That sounds kinda like saying IE is a great, perfect browser, just in different words.
As good as FF? Maybe, after you install third party plugins. Better? Not really.

I said I never have problems with it, that doesn't mean I said its perfect.

What third party plugins? I have the google toolbar installed. The simple fact of the matter is that I've used Firefox, and encountered more problems in a short period of time than I ever have with IE. Its just "geek cool" right now to be a firefox fan.

 

[CTho9305]

Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy
Well since the thread has been bumped already, I would simply like to point out

Opera > Firefox > IE. WITH PROOF. Here's your standards that you guys love so much

None of them are perfect yet, but atleast Opera's rendition almost looks like a face.

Firefox 1.0.4 is based on a Gecko engine that's over a year old. 1.1 and current nightlies do significantly better. It's just that it's not a relevant test in any way beyond PR, and shipping software that renders real websites well (and supports cool features like SVG and <canvas> natively) is a much better use of the developers' time. Acid2 tests things as esoteric as making sure the browser properly ignores invalid CSS and doesn't try to guess what you wanted. A real page shouldn't have invalid CSS, and it does, having the browser guess is probably the best solution right now. FYI, current versions of Safari do pass Acid2.

I won't argue that Firefox is better than Opera, because from what I hear, it isn't. However, Opera isn't free (adware isn't free).

Originally posted by: Deeko
If you're insinuating that I don't write proper code, and that's why I write Firefox-specific code, you're wrong. Firefox can't do random things right...like making a textbox the proper width, or making something that is 100% height more than 50% height. You can't tell me there is something wrong with my code for those things, Firefox just loses its mind for no reason.

Post an example.

 

[LS20]

Originally posted by: Deeko



I said I never have problems with it, that doesn't mean I said its perfect.

What third party plugins? I have the google toolbar installed. The simple fact of the matter is that I've used Firefox, and encountered more problems in a short period of time than I ever have with IE. Its just "geek cool" right now to be a firefox fan.

So... good for you. we'll remember to spare your children the next time we run a browser crusade :roll:

For most of us, its the opposite.. hence our preference for FF

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: Deeko
Wheres the one of the big red O looking really confused beacuse he doesn't know how to render a website?

Fixed. I used Opera in the past but I ran into far too many websites that it rendered incorrectly. Not necessarily horrible problems but lots of little annoying things.

 

[Kodiak]

76,000KB

 

[MikeMike]

139 mb.
1 window
11 tabs opened.

ive used up to 170mb before and i only have 512 right now.

when minimized however FF uses:
62.5mb


i might try opera.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: sharkeeper
I enlarged the firefox icon and thought this was very interesting!

Icon Enlarged

The fox is attacking the 'e'.

That is hilarious!

:laugh:

i like this one better

however Opera >>>>> FF