Firefox 49 Released

[nemesismk2]

my firefox just updated to 49.0.2 ony my windows xp computer

 

[nemesismk2]

palemoon stopped woking so well on windows xp but my version beat my windows10 computer with palemoon. so they need to work on the windows10 version of palemoon.

 

[nemesismk2]

i thought that windows10 would be okay with 8gb of memory because windows7 loved it.

 

[TheRyuu]

i thought that windows10 would be okay with 8gb of memory because windows7 loved it.

Win8 uses less ram than Win7 and Win10 should be using less ram than Win8.

 

[MongGrel]

I used to use Pale Moon X64 when it came out, but it was screwing up on my system more than I could tolerate.

Maybe it's fine now, but have stuck to FF personally.

 

[ninaholic37]

Been using Pale Moon for the last couple of years because Firefox got so bloated and slow I couldn't stand it anymore. Pale Moon has had its issues too, but overall I've struggled through their growing pains. My wife & I have older machines so we need for the browser to open and navigate the web quickly on older machines. While Pale Moon was quicker on our older machines than FF, that speed has been diminishing lately. Absolutely do NOT want Chrome primarily because I know how Google likes to track what people do on their machines, but also because I believe Chrome is a memory hog and would drag our older machines down. I've been trying to keep up with news on new FF releases, CNet had an article a while ago about FF trying to revamp their browser to get back into the browser game they lost to Chrome. I wonder about their progress. Is FF faster now than they have been (like they claim)? Is FF still bloated like they got a couple of years ago after they switched to their Australis interface? Always hated the new look, used Classic Theme Restorer back then. I'd like to try a leaner meaner FF but I don't know if they're back to basics yet or still churning away with extra crap nobody cares about. Will Firefox run side by side with Pale Moon? Tempted to try FF but don't want to abandon PM just yet...

Thanks!

I normally use Firefox 28 for the same reason, old machines with 1gb ram, it was much snapper than FF46, but I'm getting more warnings lately that my browser is out of date and some html5, music, gifs, videos play in newest FF that 28 doesn't. I still prefer FF28 in general than newer FF or Pale Moon or Light or any other browser that has javascript but 28 starting to show it's age as less websites keep support (ie. Failbook).

 

[MongGrel]

Just updated to 49.0.2 and it's running just fine doing different things on multiple screens etc on the main.

But I'm kind of a Guinea Pig for WIN X and have the latest insider ring installed.

I'm still not sure why people want to be obsessive about upgrading their hardware but still want to cling to old software myself.

Have WIN X running on a couple rigs just fine.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Just updated to 49.0.2 and it's running just fine

Gee, it seems like only yesterday that 49.0.1 came out. Actually, given the release schedule of Firefox maybe it was only yesterday.

 

[MongGrel]

Gee, it seems like only yesterday that 49.0.1 came out. Actually, given the release schedule of Firefox maybe it was only yesterday.

The windows Insider updates come down pretty fast sometimes also.

I've gotten a couple in one week sometimes, is a PITA waiting on it to upgrade, unless you let it go in bed.

I usually do that these days, the main is on pretty much 24/7.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Trust me, FF is as bloated as ever.

 

[pcslookout]

Trust me, FF is as bloated as ever.

No it is not.

Stop using some of the bloated addons.

 

[pcslookout]

The windows Insider updates come down pretty fast sometimes also.

I've gotten a couple in one week sometimes, is a PITA waiting on it to upgrade, unless you let it go in bed.

I usually do that these days, the main is on pretty much 24/7.

Really glad I am not a windows insider.

 

[TheRyuu]

Really glad I am not a windows insider.

Well it's not intended to be used "in production" or on your daily use machine. It's really just designed for testing.

 

[VirtualLarry]

No it is not.

Stop using some of the bloated addons.

No add-ons here. Disabled NoScript (my only add-on), due it it interfering with Multi-Process Windowing feature.

You clearly have never used Firefox on a low-spec machine. It's as bloated as ever.

Edit: Try using it on a J1900 Atom, rather than your 4.4Ghz 2500K.

 

[pcslookout]

No add-ons here. Disabled NoScript (my only add-on), due it it interfering with Multi-Process Windowing feature.

You clearly have never used Firefox on a low-spec machine. It's as bloated as ever.

Edit: Try using it on a J1900 Atom, rather than your 4.4Ghz 2500K.

I bought a Surface 3 a long while ago then returned it because it was causing me so many problems. Firefox worked fine on it.

 

[ninaholic37]

No add-ons here. Disabled NoScript (my only add-on), due it it interfering with Multi-Process Windowing feature.

You clearly have never used Firefox on a low-spec machine. It's as bloated as ever.

Edit: Try using it on a J1900 Atom, rather than your 4.4Ghz 2500K.

I agree. Things like Facebook are a lot snappier for me on 28 or 17ESR than 45ESR and 49. On my Pentium M it's about 2-3x faster, but on my dad's Core2duo I don't notice as much difference. Surface 3 is not old.

 

[Chiefcrowe]

Mozilla slaps ban on China's WoSign: Firefox drops trust for certs over 'deception'

http://www.zdnet.com/article/mozill...-firefox-drops-trust-for-certs-over-deception

 

[TheRyuu]

Mozilla slaps ban on China's WoSign: Firefox drops trust for certs over 'deception'

http://www.zdnet.com/article/mozill...-firefox-drops-trust-for-certs-over-deception

Although I suppose its not technically incorrect the tittle of the article is somewhat sensationalized. They're distrusting certs that have a start date after Oct 21. This applies to StartCom as well since WoSign owns StartCom and they're cross signed.

Mozilla has now opted to distrust WoSign and StartCom certificates generated after October 21. The action takes effect in Firefox 51, which is due on January 24, 2017.

I believe there will be an option to reapply for inclusion with a new root cert after a year.

 

[Chiefcrowe]

Mozilla Announces Quantum, a New Browser Engine for Firefox

http://news.softpedia.com/news/mozi...a-new-browser-engine-for-firefox-509767.shtml

 

[VirtualLarry]

Sounds good to me. I look forward to Quantum being phased into newer builds of Firefox.

 

[Chiefcrowe]

another article

Faster Firefox? Mozilla's Quantum shoots for quicker page loads, smoother scrolling

http://www.zdnet.com/article/faster-firefox-mozillas-quantum-shoots-for-quicker-page-loads-smoother-scrolling

 

[Ketchup]

I don't know. I guess I am just glad they aren't telling us now that it will be slower. I have never been on a computer where I considered Firefox slow (at least, not on a computer where Internet Explorer and Chrome weren't just as slow or slower).

 

[VirtualLarry]

Waterfox 49.0.3, based on Firefox 49.0.2 code, is out.

 

[nemesismk2]

i have never used waterfox. is it available for windows xp and windows 10?

 

[VirtualLarry]

Waterfox was one of the first available 64-bit 3rd-party builds of Firefox, before they released their official 64-bit build. (OK, you could get 64-bit "nightly" builds before then.)