FireFox 3.5 is slow and leaky for me

[0roo0roo]

lol
http://lifehacker.com/5352195/...ake-on-all-challengers
according to benchies firefox bests chrome and opera in memory use

 

[Sureshot324]

I did get some crashes when I first updated to 3.5. Speedwise it's just been fine, it's just random freezes. I haven't had this happen lately so maybe it's been fixed in a patch?

 

[SanDiegoPC]

Originally posted by: SoftwareEng
Whoever is saying that 1.6 GHz is too slow for web browsing is out of his mind Remmeber times when awesome 3d games ran on 600 Mhz?? Now all of a sudden 1.6 GHz isn't enough to scroll through long forums or browse the news?

That was back when browsers and other programs were much smaller and not bloated. No conspiracy needed; it's called progress!

 

[pcslookout]

I have totally given up on firefox. It may have been some of the add ons when firefox started to lag really badly where just typing text for a message at anandtech forums would lag 5 to 10 seconds behind but they should not do that after a while. Whats the point of firefox if you can't use add ons ? Sucks. May still use it just for a select few websites but that is it. Not even sure if I should do that.

You don't have to tell me but yeah try using just a plain firefox and see if you have any problems. Still what is the point of that ? That means there is no advantage of using firefox now.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: pcslookout
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You don't have to tell me but yeah try using just a plain firefox and see if you have any problems. Still what is the point of that ? That means there is no advantage of using firefox now.

Curiosity? It would still be interesting to know although it might be impossible to test if the add-on is required.

I assume you tried the latest patch.

The keystroke delay is most worrisome since this is so basic. It's as if they screwed up the win32 message loop or don't know how to properly implement win32 threads. In one installation with only the NoScript add-on, I can see this delay when simply bookmarking a favorite. I select the folder dialog and tab to the listbox containing available folders and use the down arrow. There should not be a [random] delay here. It's almost as if there are only a couple of developers working on ff (of course, this is speculation).

 

[pcslookout]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: pcslookout
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You don't have to tell me but yeah try using just a plain firefox and see if you have any problems. Still what is the point of that ? That means there is no advantage of using firefox now.

Curiosity? It would still be interesting to know although it might be impossible to test if the add-on is required.

I assume you tried the latest patch.

The keystroke delay is most worrisome since this is so basic. It's as if they screwed up the win32 message loop or don't know how to properly implement win32 threads. In one installation with only the NoScript add-on, I can see this delay when simply bookmarking a favorite. I select the folder dialog and tab to the listbox containing available folders and use the down arrow. There should not be a [random] delay here. It's almost as if there are only a couple of developers working on ff (of course, this is speculation).

Wow that sucks that it happens to you with only one add on installed in firefox. It can't be the add on NoScript.

I may try testing Firefox 3.5.3, Firefox 3.0.15, and the last release of Firefox 2 on another pc just to see. Curious as well. I hope that is not what happen with Firefox though. That would really be horrible. Always thought maybe it was because I was using a 64 bit version of windows and some kind of conflict but my system with a 32 bit version of windows has the same problem. So I doubt it is that.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: pcslookout

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: pcslookout
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You don't have to tell me but yeah try using just a plain firefox and see if you have any problems. Still what is the point of that ? That means there is no advantage of using firefox now.

Curiosity? It would still be interesting to know although it might be impossible to test if the add-on is required.

I assume you tried the latest patch.

The keystroke delay is most worrisome since this is so basic. It's as if they screwed up the win32 message loop or don't know how to properly implement win32 threads. In one installation with only the NoScript add-on, I can see this delay when simply bookmarking a favorite. I select the folder dialog and tab to the listbox containing available folders and use the down arrow. There should not be a [random] delay here. It's almost as if there are only a couple of developers working on ff (of course, this is speculation).

Wow that sucks that it happens to you with only one add on installed in firefox. It can't be the add on NoScript.

I may try testing Firefox 3.5.3, Firefox 3.0.15, and the last release of Firefox 2 on another pc just to see. Curious as well. I hope that is not what happen with Firefox though. That would really be horrible. Always thought maybe it was because I was using a 64 bit version of windows and some kind of conflict but my system with a 32 bit version of windows has the same problem. So I doubt it is that.

Once you're a developer, you learn to never say such things...

The above test was with vista32/ultimate. It was installed a month ago and has all updates as of a week ago.

I just tried this on xp32/sp3, updated as of last week, and it's more random. Initially, using the up/down keys to go top to bottom in the listbox (containing a massive number of nine items) shows no delay. After the fourth or fifth time, delay is evident and growing until about the tenth time things come to a standstill. After about 15 seconds, ff starts responding again. Maybe I just need an attitude readjustment in that I didn't have to reboot the pc.

 

[pcslookout]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: pcslookout

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: pcslookout
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You don't have to tell me but yeah try using just a plain firefox and see if you have any problems. Still what is the point of that ? That means there is no advantage of using firefox now.

Curiosity? It would still be interesting to know although it might be impossible to test if the add-on is required.

I assume you tried the latest patch.

The keystroke delay is most worrisome since this is so basic. It's as if they screwed up the win32 message loop or don't know how to properly implement win32 threads. In one installation with only the NoScript add-on, I can see this delay when simply bookmarking a favorite. I select the folder dialog and tab to the listbox containing available folders and use the down arrow. There should not be a [random] delay here. It's almost as if there are only a couple of developers working on ff (of course, this is speculation).

Wow that sucks that it happens to you with only one add on installed in firefox. It can't be the add on NoScript.

I may try testing Firefox 3.5.3, Firefox 3.0.15, and the last release of Firefox 2 on another pc just to see. Curious as well. I hope that is not what happen with Firefox though. That would really be horrible. Always thought maybe it was because I was using a 64 bit version of windows and some kind of conflict but my system with a 32 bit version of windows has the same problem. So I doubt it is that.

Once you're a developer, you learn to never say such things...

The above test was with vista32/ultimate. It was installed a month ago and has all updates as of a week ago.

I just tried this on xp32/sp3, updated as of last week, and it's more random. Initially, using the up/down keys to go top to bottom in the listbox (containing a massive number of nine items) shows no delay. After the fourth or fifth time, delay is evident and growing until about the tenth time things come to a standstill. After about 15 seconds, ff starts responding again. Maybe I just need an attitude readjustment in that I didn't have to reboot the pc.

See the thing is I don't use no script so if your problem is that then that would mean a lot of different add ons have ill effects on firefox. That would really suck. Wonder if the same thing can happen with Opera, Chrome, and Internet Explorer add ons. Interesting.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: pcslookout

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: pcslookout

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: pcslookout
...
You don't have to tell me but yeah try using just a plain firefox and see if you have any problems. Still what is the point of that ? That means there is no advantage of using firefox now.

Curiosity? It would still be interesting to know although it might be impossible to test if the add-on is required.

I assume you tried the latest patch.

The keystroke delay is most worrisome since this is so basic. It's as if they screwed up the win32 message loop or don't know how to properly implement win32 threads. In one installation with only the NoScript add-on, I can see this delay when simply bookmarking a favorite. I select the folder dialog and tab to the listbox containing available folders and use the down arrow. There should not be a [random] delay here. It's almost as if there are only a couple of developers working on ff (of course, this is speculation).

Wow that sucks that it happens to you with only one add on installed in firefox. It can't be the add on NoScript.

I may try testing Firefox 3.5.3, Firefox 3.0.15, and the last release of Firefox 2 on another pc just to see. Curious as well. I hope that is not what happen with Firefox though. That would really be horrible. Always thought maybe it was because I was using a 64 bit version of windows and some kind of conflict but my system with a 32 bit version of windows has the same problem. So I doubt it is that.

Once you're a developer, you learn to never say such things...

The above test was with vista32/ultimate. It was installed a month ago and has all updates as of a week ago.

I just tried this on xp32/sp3, updated as of last week, and it's more random. Initially, using the up/down keys to go top to bottom in the listbox (containing a massive number of nine items) shows no delay. After the fourth or fifth time, delay is evident and growing until about the tenth time things come to a standstill. After about 15 seconds, ff starts responding again. Maybe I just need an attitude readjustment in that I didn't have to reboot the pc.

See the thing is I don't use no script so if your problem is that then that would mean a lot of different add ons have ill effects on firefox. That would really suck. Wonder if the same thing can happen with Opera, Chrome, and Internet Explorer add ons. Interesting.

I can only speak of add-on experience with ie7pro and ie. It makes ie6,7 very usable (not necessarily in a NoScript way). It makes ie8 act pretty funky. This is probably not a good comparison since ms doesn't really support the likes of ie7pro.

 

[Niege]

I'm having random crashes of 3.5.3. Also intermittent times when cursor/page keys don't work in a tab. Toolbars come and go seemingly at whim. Takes 2-4 minutes to load. Takes 30sec to 1 min to close. Memory doesn't release for another 1-2 minutes.

I've been a fan since 1.0 but I am now seriously considering another browser. This one is getting to be highly dysfunctional.

 

[0roo0roo]

sounds more like your windows is corrupt.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Niege
I'm having random crashes of 3.5.3. Also intermittent times when cursor/page keys don't work in a tab. Toolbars come and go seemingly at whim. Takes 2-4 minutes to load. Takes 30sec to 1 min to close. Memory doesn't release for another 1-2 minutes.

I've been a fan since 1.0 but I am now seriously considering another browser. This one is getting to be highly dysfunctional.

I'd agree to the possibility that there's something amiss in your system. Although I've had problems with ff3.5x, they've not been this severe.

When's the last time your system was backed-up, drive reformatted and the os installed fresh?

 

[Griswold]

I've never had any serious troubles with 3.5 so far. But still felt the fox has become fat and slow (without actually adding many features that justify gaining some weight...). Recently the big red O won me back after many years, just for that reason...

 

[BriGy86]

I've noticed firefox 3.5 is a PITA when it comes to loading the Yahoo page. specifically the main mail dashboard. I think there may be code on the page that doesn't work well because most other sites seem fine.

 

[Niege]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: Niege
I'm having random crashes of 3.5.3. Also intermittent times when cursor/page keys don't work in a tab. Toolbars come and go seemingly at whim. Takes 2-4 minutes to load. Takes 30sec to 1 min to close. Memory doesn't release for another 1-2 minutes.

I've been a fan since 1.0 but I am now seriously considering another browser. This one is getting to be highly dysfunctional.

I'd agree to the possibility that there's something amiss in your system. Although I've had problems with ff3.5x, they've not been this severe.

When's the last time your system was backed-up, drive reformatted and the os installed fresh?

You would have to ask that question... It's been over two years. I'm hoping to make it until my pre-ordered copy of Win7 arrives. I'm running XP so the upgrade will be a major PITA.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Niege

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: Niege
I'm having random crashes of 3.5.3. Also intermittent times when cursor/page keys don't work in a tab. Toolbars come and go seemingly at whim. Takes 2-4 minutes to load. Takes 30sec to 1 min to close. Memory doesn't release for another 1-2 minutes.

I've been a fan since 1.0 but I am now seriously considering another browser. This one is getting to be highly dysfunctional.

I'd agree to the possibility that there's something amiss in your system. Although I've had problems with ff3.5x, they've not been this severe.

When's the last time your system was backed-up, drive reformatted and the os installed fresh?

You would have to ask that question... It's been over two years. I'm hoping to make it until my pre-ordered copy of Win7 arrives. I'm running XP so the upgrade will be a major PITA.

I can understand the reluctance since, unless you have ~2x the drive space vs. files, you'll have to do a house cleaning. A big reason to not delay is if there is malware suspected. One of the things I've found when cleaning is *many* duplicate files. I've found this to help automate things. There are several other utilities but this one seems to be the best free one. It takes a long time to go through the drives since it compares binary file content instead of filenames. I've found this is a good way to get started on this mundane task. Make sure you're got all of your userid/passwords saved...

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I loaded ff353/noscript on a w2k system (amd3500/2.2ghz). It's working well so far. It's interesting to see how far things have come from ie5.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: BriGy86
I've noticed firefox 3.5 is a PITA when it comes to loading the Yahoo page. specifically the main mail dashboard. I think there may be code on the page that doesn't work well because most other sites seem fine.

I've noticed this with ff also. It's even more severe with chrome. It gets into a state where you can click on the usual things and nothing will happen (along with no error message or indication that it's gone into lala land). yahoo is doing something new and funky. I've noticed that it helps to close the tab and open a new one - fixes the problem almost every time.

 

[pcslookout]

Yeah it seems like certain websites now don't run as well as they use to for some strange reason. Not sure if it is the site or the browser. Guessing the site but who knows.