Firefox 3.5.3 is out

dguy6789

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I can't recall having any version of Firefox 1, 2, or 3 ever crashing on Anandtech Forums. Maybe you have an incompatible add on?
 

Nothinman

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Yea, the only thing that ever seems to cause crashes for me in any browser on Windows or Linux is flash.
 

Muadib

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Originally posted by: dguy6789
I can't recall having any version of Firefox 1, 2, or 3 ever crashing on Anandtech Forums. Maybe you have an incompatible add on?

Did you search previous Firefox threads? I bought it up in a thread for the last update. I ain't the only one with the issue.

Do you use reply, and then check the subscribe box? If not, try it 5-8 times, and report back.
 

Engineer

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I've been using the 3.5.3 BETA for over a week. It's been stable for me with little to no issues (occasional page that won't display the same as an IE page, etc). Nothing shows up on my automatic updates as for "final" 3.5.3 release. I'll see if it shows up on it's own...if not, I'll download and install over the BETA.
 

Muadib

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Originally posted by: Chiefcrowe
does it still happen in safe mode?

Originally posted by: Muadib
Please fix the crashing when I post here.....

I haven't tried safe mode with this version. If it crashes, I'll give it a shot.
 

lxskllr

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Originally posted by: scott
Originally posted by: Engineer
<snip> I'll see if it shows up on it's own...if not, I'll download and install over the BETA.

In general what do people think about

(A)
installing new revisions over the old,

vs.

(B)
uninstall old,
manually clean out the remnants squirreled away in \Documents and Settings\[profile name]\Application Data\Mozilla, (WinXP)

and in
\Documents and Settings\[profile name]\Local Settings\Mozilla

and install new version?

Anybody think there's a difference in the result?

I'm always uneasy about installing new on top of old, but that's just me.

I've always installed over the old version. I think I've been carrying the same profile since 0.8.
 

Nothinman

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I'm always uneasy about installing new on top of old, but that's just me.

I'm on Linux usually but I always just let the package update over the old one whenever Debian releases a new one.
 

manko

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It still chokes on ebay searches like 3.5.2, even in safe mode. I've had to switch to Opera for a lot sites since 3.5.
 

Chiefcrowe

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what do you mean it chokes on ebay searches? i just tried doing some ebay searches in 3.5.3 and i didn't see any issues.
 

manko

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Firefox hangs while trying to load search results or item pages and all other tabs (non-ebay) other sites stop loading. The other sites would otherwise load normally without ebay being open. While Firefox is locked I can switch to IE or Opera and they both load ebay and searches normally, while FF is still stuck. The same thing happens in safe mode.

Even without the regular ebay hang ups, I'll have 4 or 5 tabs open and they all stop loading every once in a while, so I've gotten into the habit of closing and restarting FF when that happens.

There has been ongoing discussion of this on Mozilla forums. There's a list of possible fixes to try, but they seem to be hit and miss.
 

pcslookout

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Originally posted by: manko
Firefox hangs while trying to load search results or item pages and all other tabs (non-ebay) other sites stop loading. The other sites would otherwise load normally without ebay being open. While Firefox is locked I can switch to IE or Opera and they both load ebay and searches normally, while FF is still stuck. The same thing happens in safe mode.

Even without the regular ebay hang ups, I'll have 4 or 5 tabs open and they all stop loading every once in a while, so I've gotten into the habit of closing and restarting FF when that happens.

There has been ongoing discussion of this on Mozilla forums. There's a list of possible fixes to try, but they seem to be hit and miss.

:thumbsup:
 

Muse

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Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: scott
Originally posted by: Engineer
<snip> I'll see if it shows up on it's own...if not, I'll download and install over the BETA.

In general what do people think about

(A)
installing new revisions over the old,

vs.

(B)
uninstall old,
manually clean out the remnants squirreled away in \Documents and Settings\[profile name]\Application Data\Mozilla, (WinXP)

and in
\Documents and Settings\[profile name]\Local Settings\Mozilla

and install new version?

Anybody think there's a difference in the result?

I'm always uneasy about installing new on top of old, but that's just me.

I've always installed over the old version. I think I've been carrying the same profile since 0.8.

I assume it's a lot more work to uninstall, install anew, reconfigure, install and configure add-ons. It's the programmer's task to make an install-over work out Ok. I try not to make unnecessary work for myself.
 

Chiefcrowe

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hmm, that is odd.

did you try this on another pc and also did you try it on the same pc under a different user account to see if it still happens?




Originally posted by: manko
Firefox hangs while trying to load search results or item pages and all other tabs (non-ebay) other sites stop loading. The other sites would otherwise load normally without ebay being open. While Firefox is locked I can switch to IE or Opera and they both load ebay and searches normally, while FF is still stuck. The same thing happens in safe mode.

Even without the regular ebay hang ups, I'll have 4 or 5 tabs open and they all stop loading every once in a while, so I've gotten into the habit of closing and restarting FF when that happens.

There has been ongoing discussion of this on Mozilla forums. There's a list of possible fixes to try, but they seem to be hit and miss.

 

manko

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Originally posted by: Chiefcrowe
hmm, that is odd.

did you try this on another pc and also did you try it on the same pc under a different user account to see if it still happens?
No, not yet. I may give that a try, but it wouldn't be much of a comparison. I barely use the browser on the other machines, they're just bare bone installs without bookmarks and with a minimum of addons and configuration. Even if a minimum install worked, it wouldn't be much use to me without all my bookmarks, settings and addons on my main machine.

As I said, I tried safe mode and I have tried all the configuration tweaks and sqlite vacuuming etc. to try to get my fully loaded Firefox working as normal pre-3.5, but I haven't had any luck. Again, it seems to be a common problem out there. Searching on my symptoms turns up a lot of hits and discussions of the topic.

 

pcslookout

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Originally posted by: manko
Originally posted by: Chiefcrowe
hmm, that is odd.

did you try this on another pc and also did you try it on the same pc under a different user account to see if it still happens?
No, not yet. I may give that a try, but it wouldn't be much of a comparison. I barely use the browser on the other machines, they're just bare bone installs without bookmarks and with a minimum of addons and configuration. Even if a minimum install worked, it wouldn't be much use to me without all my bookmarks, settings and addons on my main machine.

As I said, I tried safe mode and I have tried all the configuration tweaks and sqlite vacuuming etc. to try to get my fully loaded Firefox working as normal pre-3.5, but I haven't had any luck. Again, it seems to be a common problem out there. Searching on my symptoms turns up a lot of hits and discussions of the topic.

It is a very common problem and I think everyone has it. The ones that say they do not are not using their browser longer than 5 to 6 hours a day and are not keeping firefox open 24/7.
 

manko

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Well, this sounds like it's also related:

eBay Denies New Design Is Broken, Blames Users

But as I said, everytime I've tried, I can copy the ebay link from a stalled Firefox tab and paste in into Opera and load up without a problem. Not to mention, unrelated stalling on other sites without opening ebay. This new (broken?) ebay is just the most obvious and easy way to demonstrate stalling in Firefox 3.5.x.

I also just happened to open my Task Manager when I had 8-9 tabs open and 2-3 stalling last night (all non-ebay sites), I watched the Firefox memory use balloon up to 1GB and pin the CPU in the 90s for a few minutes while the last 2 tabs loaded. They did eventually load, but that seems ridiculous amount of memory for 2 or 3 tabs to load with another 5-6 already open.
 

pcslookout

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Originally posted by: manko
Well, this sounds like it's also related:

eBay Denies New Design Is Broken, Blames Users

But as I said, everytime I've tried, I can copy the ebay link from a stalled Firefox tab and paste in into Opera and load up without a problem. Not to mention, unrelated stalling on other sites without opening ebay. This new (broken?) ebay is just the most obvious and easy way to demonstrate stalling in Firefox 3.5.x.

I also just happened to open my Task Manager when I had 8-9 tabs open and 2-3 stalling last night (all non-ebay sites), I watched the Firefox memory use balloon up to 1GB and pin the CPU in the 90s for a few minutes while the last 2 tabs loaded. They did eventually load, but that seems ridiculous amount of memory for 2 or 3 tabs to load with another 5-6 already open.

Interesting but I have this happen with other websites and when having a lot of tabs open in firefox.