FiOS Internet for Residential Homes

[spidey07]

bump for my honey-bunny.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Wag
Yeah, it's kind of difficult to setup for apartment buildings and multi-family dwellings, which most people in the US live in.

Huh? Not even.

62.5% of the housing units in the US are 1-unit detached dwellings (aka single family residences aka "houses").

13.8% are attached 1-unit dwellings (aka rowhouses or townhomes) and plexes (2-4 units).

Only 16.8% are apartment buildings, condos, or other multi-family dwellings (which are defined by 5 units or more)

The rest (6.9%) are manufactured/mobile homes or trailers.

Text (3.6MB pdf file, 498 pages but you can find the important tables on page 4)

 

[spidey07]

Vic,

Don't confuse people with facts.

Especially the mind blowing FACT that the majority of broadband users have a choice in broadband/multimegabit services.

 

[qaa541]

Originally posted by: Wag
Yeah, it's kind of difficult to setup for apartment buildings and multi-family dwellings, which most people in the US live in.

Cable on the otherhand, especially with technologies like DOCSIS 3.0 will make it more than a match for FIOS, allowing 100Gbs transfers over current lines. Weee!

DOCSIS 3.0 will definately not go to 100Gbps. Maybe 100Mbps, but definately not in the Gbps anytime soon. Remember, all that bandwidth is still shared with traditional TV. Until cable companies completely dump analog TV/cable channels (huge 6mhz channels gone- 42mbps each), I doubt you will see anything more than 8 channel wideband (~250-300mbps max). Once the analog channels are dumped, you might see huge wideband solutions to approach 1Gbps (theoretically).

 

[AnthroAndStargate]

Originally posted by: InlineFour
when will this technology become standard for internet?

I got fiber into my home - through another company - i've had it for about 5+ years - pay about 40 a month for oc3 speeds -although its shared amongst the neighborhood - but its fibe rall the way up to my fiber switch wich turns it into 100baset.

Hopefully the gov't can subsidise this so it can be standard like many other countries. We are stuck in the stone ages using copper wire for last mile service here in America.

 

[Goosemaster]

I still remember the OC-768 demo...I was in tears at its beauty:heart:

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Kaervak

Originally posted by: MS Dawn

Originally posted by: InlineFour

Originally posted by: InlineFour

Originally posted by: MS Dawn

Originally posted by: spidey07
As soon as people spend the capital to roll it out, which is what verizon is betting on. That their investment will yield returns and take some of cables business.

And by that time we'll have something better on Cable. So in the end, your cable company will offer a superior product at a lower price.

Yeah but what laser group uses tubes?

what do you mean?

It's a tube riddle for spidey.

Yeah, I got an internet sent to me Sunday at 10am and it just now showed up. Stupid tubes.

LOFL....

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: qaa541

Originally posted by: Wag
Yeah, it's kind of difficult to setup for apartment buildings and multi-family dwellings, which most people in the US live in.

Cable on the otherhand, especially with technologies like DOCSIS 3.0 will make it more than a match for FIOS, allowing 100Gbs transfers over current lines. Weee!

DOCSIS 3.0 will definately not go to 100Gbps. Maybe 100Mbps, but definately not in the Gbps anytime soon. Remember, all that bandwidth is still shared with traditional TV. Until cable companies completely dump analog TV/cable channels (huge 6mhz channels gone- 42mbps each), I doubt you will see anything more than 8 channel wideband (~250-300mbps max). Once the analog channels are dumped, you might see huge wideband solutions to approach 1Gbps (theoretically).

yep, but for the longest time twisted pair/coax was thought to only be capable of 10/45 megabits/sec respectfully.

250 Mbs is still pretty dang good in my boox.

Way back when, fiber to the home was the big push. Now with modern technology it isn't required.

 

[InlineFour]

Originally posted by: spidey07
bump for my honey-bunny.

want to explain to us this relationship you're having with ms dawn?

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: InlineFour

Originally posted by: spidey07
bump for my honey-bunny.

want to explain to us this relationship you're having with ms dawn?

seriously...


there is definitely some tube-to-tube routing action going on that we aren't privy to....

 

[InlineFour]

pardon my noobness, but is the whole tube thing you're all talking about referring to senator's steven's speach on internet neutrality?

It's a series of tubes.

And if you don't understand those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and its going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material.

Now we have a separate Department of Defense internet now, did you know that?

Do you know why?

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: InlineFour

Originally posted by: spidey07
bump for my honey-bunny.

want to explain to us this relationship you're having with ms dawn?

oh geez, now you're putting my wits on the spot.

MS Dawn challenges me with riddles in her expertise to gauge my worthiness. She is the alpha queen - intimidating all males before her. What this sweet pea doesn't realize is she's trying to buck horns with the wrong opponent. Her wit and intelligence is only matched by mine.

I've already proven my ability and yet she continues the challenge. She is a strong woman worthy of my attention. I cannot say enough good things about her.

Just from some stupid postings in teh intarweb I have met/bucked horns with somebody that has the back to bump.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: MS Dawn
10.6µ - the CO2.

Ah nothing like the purple glow of a pair of EIMAC 3-1000Z's driving an axial flow table cutter pushing a horsepower of plasma cutting power. Outdated and dangerous but to most on this forum I am too. :Q

Wouldn't any number of the gas lasers use tubes?

In fact, "tubes" is so vague, almost all lasers use tubes...

But remember...rods don't leak

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: jagec

Wouldn't any number of the gas lasers use tubes?

In fact, "tubes" is so vague, almost all lasers use tubes...

But remember...rods don't leak

Rods may not leak but coolerblock certainly do around those pumping lamps - and what a mess if it does! Only to be defeated by a wrecked Q-Switch or shattered vanadate just before the gig starts! (Laserscope DPSS 800 Z fold) 60W of 532 is pretty but 300 mW of Coherent Compass power with its superb coherence length measured in meters excels. Why use a 16 inch gun when a sniper will do the trick?

And yes those tubes - all the purple glow from those regulators is downright mesmerizing on a dark and storming night. The "pow" sound plywood makes when igniting spontaneously from 50W of 10.6µ is also quite eerie.

Perhaps the only thing that tops that (aural experience) is the slightly off zero beat sound of the azipod cycloconverter oscillators. At WOT of 20MW each - let's just say it's a pulse pounding experience.

 

[lozina]

I'm still waiting for FIOS TV service...

seems like it's stalled

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: lozina
I'm still waiting for FIOS TV service...

seems like it's stalled

Give it time. They WANT desparately to provide you what cable does.

 

[Acanthus]

Ill live with my 2Mb both ways internet until fiber comes along...

Im just glad to be rid of DSL with 256k up, that was a damn joke.

 

[Markbnj]

Originally posted by: Aflac
I have to say probably never. Fiber is too hard to set up, especially when wireless broadband (like WiMAX, i think) is so close.

EDIT: I just considered what I posted and I'm reconsidering. Since fiber can get to such high speeds, it might replace cable and DSL in a few years. No telling how many companies are gonna jump on the fiber bandwagon, though.

There is such an incredible amount of bandwidth available over coax that I have a hard time seeing that being enough of an issue to drive a massive investment in fiber. The typical hybrid fiber/coax plant that cable operators use has something like 768 mhz. of RF bandwidth. A broadcast NTSC TV channel takes 6 or 12 Mhz. I think, depending on format. The typical cable operator is only using something like 8 - 12 Mhz. of total bandwidth for all the upstream and downstream digital services, and if I recall correctly they are getting 30+ megabits/sec out of that.

 

[Rubycon]

TV is a horrible waste of bandwidth.

One day they may just do everything over IP. Imagine having a gigabit duplex connection and sharing this with your TV viewing. Not watching anything give you the entire pipe! Of course the greedy operators would never allow that.

 

[Markbnj]

Originally posted by: MS Dawn
TV is a horrible waste of bandwidth.

One day they may just do everything over IP. Imagine having a gigabit duplex connection and sharing this with your TV viewing. Not watching anything give you the entire pipe! Of course the greedy operators would never allow that.

It's an interesting situation. What the cable wave did to the big three broadcasters the Internet wave is doing to cable. The cable boys won't be able to resist it any more than the prior regime was able to. If they put roadblocks on the IP pipe then the bits will flow around them. If anyone is interested in more of this story, I did some research on the history and future outlook of the cable business for a blog post last year.