FiOS Internet for Residential Homes

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I have to say probably never. Fiber is too hard to set up, especially when wireless broadband (like WiMAX, i think) is so close.

EDIT: I just considered what I posted and I'm reconsidering. Since fiber can get to such high speeds, it might replace cable and DSL in a few years. No telling how many companies are gonna jump on the fiber bandwagon, though.
 

spidey07

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As soon as people spend the capital to roll it out, which is what verizon is betting on. That their investment will yield returns and take some of cables business.

And by that time we'll have something better on Cable. So in the end, your cable company will offer a superior product at a lower price.
 

Wag

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Yeah, it's kind of difficult to setup for apartment buildings and multi-family dwellings, which most people in the US live in.

Cable on the otherhand, especially with technologies like DOCSIS 3.0 will make it more than a match for FIOS, allowing 100Gbs transfers over current lines. Weee!
 

InlineFour

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Originally posted by: spidey07
As soon as people spend the capital to roll it out, which is what verizon is betting on. That their investment will yield returns and take some of cables business.

And by that time we'll have something better on Cable. So in the end, your cable company will offer a superior product at a lower price.

isn't the RG6 cable used by cable companies limited to 10mb?
 

Rubycon

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Originally posted by: spidey07
As soon as people spend the capital to roll it out, which is what verizon is betting on. That their investment will yield returns and take some of cables business.

And by that time we'll have something better on Cable. So in the end, your cable company will offer a superior product at a lower price.


Yeah but what laser group uses tubes?

Originally posted by: InlineFour


isn't the RG6 cable used by cable companies limited to 10mb?

Haha no it can go waaay faster.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: InlineFour
Originally posted by: spidey07
As soon as people spend the capital to roll it out, which is what verizon is betting on. That their investment will yield returns and take some of cables business.

And by that time we'll have something better on Cable. So in the end, your cable company will offer a superior product at a lower price.

isn't the RG6 cable used by cable companies limited to 10mb?

Not at all. It's very high bandwidth cable.

Fiber to the home is great and a great idea. But we're constantly extending the speed of already in place HFC network. Hybrid Fiber Coax.

that's their advantage - they already have a line to your home and don't need to run the fiber and spend the money on active/passive gear. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if cable companies start pushing fiber to the home in new neighborhoods.

some beancounters ar working out if it is feasible for sure.
 

InlineFour

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Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Originally posted by: spidey07
As soon as people spend the capital to roll it out, which is what verizon is betting on. That their investment will yield returns and take some of cables business.

And by that time we'll have something better on Cable. So in the end, your cable company will offer a superior product at a lower price.


Yeah but what laser group uses tubes?

what do you mean? :confused:
 

Rubycon

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Originally posted by: InlineFour
Originally posted by: InlineFour
Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Originally posted by: spidey07
As soon as people spend the capital to roll it out, which is what verizon is betting on. That their investment will yield returns and take some of cables business.

And by that time we'll have something better on Cable. So in the end, your cable company will offer a superior product at a lower price.


Yeah but what laser group uses tubes?

what do you mean? :confused:


It's a tube riddle for spidey. :p
 

Kaervak

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Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Originally posted by: InlineFour
Originally posted by: InlineFour
Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Originally posted by: spidey07
As soon as people spend the capital to roll it out, which is what verizon is betting on. That their investment will yield returns and take some of cables business.

And by that time we'll have something better on Cable. So in the end, your cable company will offer a superior product at a lower price.


Yeah but what laser group uses tubes?

what do you mean? :confused:


It's a tube riddle for spidey. :p

Yeah, I got an internet sent to me Sunday at 10am and it just now showed up. Stupid tubes.
 

InlineFour

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: InlineFour
Originally posted by: spidey07
As soon as people spend the capital to roll it out, which is what verizon is betting on. That their investment will yield returns and take some of cables business.

And by that time we'll have something better on Cable. So in the end, your cable company will offer a superior product at a lower price.

isn't the RG6 cable used by cable companies limited to 10mb?

Not at all. It's very high bandwidth cable.

Fiber to the home is great and a great idea. But we're constantly extending the speed of already in place HFC network. Hybrid Fiber Coax.

that's their advantage - they already have a line to your home and don't need to run the fiber and spend the money on active/passive gear. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if cable companies start pushing fiber to the home in new neighborhoods.

some beancounters ar working out if it is feasible for sure.

i thought early networks used RG6 cables and were limited to 10mb bandwidth. i forgot the name of the network but it went something like this:


T-------------T---------------T-------------T <--RG6 10mb
pc1.............pc2...............pc3............pc4

if one pc went down, the entire network would as well.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: InlineFour
i thought early networks used RG6 cables and were limited to 10mb bandwidth. i forgot the name of the network but it went something like this:


T-------------T---------------T-------------T <--RG6 10mb
pc1.............pc2...............pc3............pc4

if one pc went down, the entire network would as well.

10 base-2 or 10 base-5

aka, a bus topology. god I hated vampire taps.

that was a limitation of the transceivers, not the cable.
 

InlineFour

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: InlineFour
i thought early networks used RG6 cables and were limited to 10mb bandwidth. i forgot the name of the network but it went something like this:


T-------------T---------------T-------------T <--RG6 10mb
pc1.............pc2...............pc3............pc4

if one pc went down, the entire network would as well.

10 base-2 or 10 base-5

aka, a bus topology. god I hated vampire taps.

that was a limitation of the transceivers, not the cable.

ah, gotcha, but this kinda confuses me now. so is cat5e limited 1000mb because of the cable or the NIC?
 

Rubycon

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10.6µ - the CO2.

Ah nothing like the purple glow of a pair of EIMAC 3-1000Z's driving an axial flow table cutter pushing a horsepower of plasma cutting power. Outdated and dangerous but to most on this forum I am too. :Q
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: InlineFour
ah, gotcha, but this kinda confuses me now. so is cat5e limited 1000mb because of the cable or the NIC?

Both. They work together. But there is only so much you can make a cable do and you can't get around the properties of said cable. But you CAN come up with innovative ways to use that cable. On such innovation is 1000 Base-T.

Current push is for 10 gig over copper, and at shorter distances it works well.

Look for a 10 gig over twisted pair to come out in a few years.

but as a very high bandwidth transmission media, coax is about as good as it gets. Next to fiber.

I know this is off topic forum, but if you want to learn more google/read up on CWDM and DWDM. That's fiber, but I'm still amazed at how much the IEEE is squeezing out of copper.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: MS Dawn
10.6µ - the CO2.

Ah nothing like the purple glow of a pair of EIMAC 3-1000Z's driving an axial flow table cutter pushing a horsepower of plasma cutting power. Outdated and dangerous but to most on this forum I am too. :Q

You didn't answer my question.

:wine:

:gift:

:lips:

:moon:
 

rh71

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It's been like 1.5 years since rollouts started in this area and it's still not complete... a lot of towns still don't have it. Keep in mind it takes a good part of a day to connect/run 1 home right now.

Your answer: at least a decade++ to be standard.