FIOS gets even faster

[Shadow Conception]

This is BS, the rest of us get ripped off with Comcast's 6mbps/384kbps at massively higher prices.

C'mon FIOS, implement yourselves universally!

 

[PlatinumGold]

just upgraded my service to 15/15 for an additional $5.00 / month for the first 3 months ($5.00 / month more than what i'm paying now) and then $17.00 / month more than i'm paying now after that.

15/15, that's pretty sweet, i'm at 5/2 now and the only reason i never upgraded was the only faster service they offered before was the 15/2. that wasn't work extra money to me, the 15/15 is. 😉

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Verizon does this while others are bitching and moaning saying we need to implement caps or teh intarwebs will asplode!

verizon is spending SOOOO much money on fios. it's amazing that they were able to make this kind of a capital commitment.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: mugs
Wow. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to offer 20/20 since it doesn't match the usage pattern of most legitimate users. Unless optical networks differ from wired networks and increasing the upload speed doesn't cost them on the download side.

http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=120758

the gpon is amazing. and the cost of the upgrade to verizon is so small. they aren't limited by copper like Cable and DSL. no upgrade to wiring of existing network is required to increase speeds by 10 fold, even from the gpon. all the do is change out a card at the OLT. no other technology out there has this kind of up potential. and Fios is already the fastest there is.

verizons choice to go with FTTP has been an extremely costly one and one you wouldn't think a fortune 500 company would make (ATT&T for example couldn't afford to do it). but the long term benefits to the consumer and verizon are HUGE.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: ropeadope
Is it in Tucson yet?...I don't really know how it works.

$65 a month is only $15 more than what I'm paying for Cox right now.

I would imagine that it'd be deployed in Phoenix before Tuscon, being the larger city with more potential customers.

I'd drop Cox Cable in about 5 seconds if they offered Verizon FIOS service here. Its possible to get Qwest Fiber a few blocks away though.

Verizon's 16 state deployment is pretty sad, they should be expanding a lot faster than what they are. A few years ago, when I first looked into FIOS, they were in the same 16 states they are today.

it's 16 states only because they bought out regional phone companies. its not like verizon can go into any state at their whim. there are a lot of regulations involved. frankly, i wouldnt be b1tching at verizon if i were not in a verizon area, i'd be b1tching that at&t choice not to go with Fiber to the premises like verizon did.

 

[ChaosDivine]

Originally posted by: Anubis
id be happy with 1/2 that, hell id be happy if i could get 1 up and not thsi shitty 512k up that TWC gives me

Quit complaining. My "DSL" is 10/1Mbps (down/up) but I only get an effective 125/60Kbps :|

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: randomlinh
it just irks me because I live in the initial roll out county.. and will probably be one of the last to ever get it at this rate.

I was talking with the tech who set me up and asked why my particular town was 2 years behind neighboring towns (same county). He stated that sometimes Verizon faces jurisdiction problems (vs. cable companies, etc.) and have to await a court decision. This was the case for Long Island towns and each had to provide approval. He added that in NJ, it was 1 approval for the entire state, so it was much easier. It may be the case that your towns are doing the same thing to them.

ya, in my town i had fios internet for almost 1 year before i was able to get fios tv. jurisdictional. and yes verizon made a deal with governor corzine to go to the entire state of NF. one of the conditions is, that one of the fios tech support call center had to be in NJ.

 

[Tim]

I'm getting 15 down and 2 up with optimum online cable in NJ for 29.95 a month, then 40 a month after my first year.

I could get their "boost" service for 65 a month which is 30 down and 5 up, then again I could also get Fios for that much.

I'll stick with what I have 😉

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: mugs
Wow. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to offer 20/20 since it doesn't match the usage pattern of most legitimate users. Unless optical networks differ from wired networks and increasing the upload speed doesn't cost them on the download side.

shhhhhh!

I've been waiting for a viable home hosting option for 10 years. Now if they just bring it to my town, all will be well.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: theplaidfad
I'm getting 15 down and 2 up with optimum online cable in NJ for 29.95 a month, then 40 a month after my first year.

I could get their "boost" service for 65 a month which is 30 down and 5 up, then again I could also get Fios for that much.

I'll stick with what I have 😉

cablevision / optimum online is the only local cable company that i expect to survive the onslaught of Fios and AT&T. comcast / TW will eat up most other small regional players and we will be left with 3 or 4 major "Entertainment / Internet" providers.

 

[thomsbrain]

Originally posted by: ViRGE
I'd assume this is to screw with Comcast. Comcast's mid-tier in FIOS areas was recently made 16/2 (up from 8/768), this puts them ahead of Comcast again. It also puts them ahead of Comcast's low-end (although standard) 6/1 tier.

I'm pretty sure the 16/2 is only burst speeds, though. After any kind of sustained downloading or uploading, speeds drop back to the usual speeds. It's good for downloading a quick podcast or uploading a simple document to an email, but beyond that speeds have not changed.

 

[ElFenix]

and the internet is capped a 30 GB/month in transfers

😉

 

[spidey07]

Good. This is in response to Comcast's Docsis 3.0 rollout and 100 megabit speeds. Competition at work, consumer wins.

 

[pcslookout]

Have fun with Verizon FIOS once they impose monthly or even daily bandwidth cap. I know it really sucks but it looks like they will be doing it soon as well like Comcast does. If you go over you pay extra.

 

[oogabooga]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: mugs
Wow. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to offer 20/20 since it doesn't match the usage pattern of most legitimate users. Unless optical networks differ from wired networks and increasing the upload speed doesn't cost them on the download side.

shhhhhh!

I've been waiting for a viable home hosting option for 10 years. Now if they just bring it to my town, all will be well.

This has sadly been my view on FIOS for awhile 😛

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: oogabooga

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: mugs
Wow. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to offer 20/20 since it doesn't match the usage pattern of most legitimate users. Unless optical networks differ from wired networks and increasing the upload speed doesn't cost them on the download side.

shhhhhh!

I've been waiting for a viable home hosting option for 10 years. Now if they just bring it to my town, all will be well.

This has sadly been my view on FIOS for awhile 😛

This year they brought it 45 miles south of me, and it's also about 100 miles north of me. Unfortunately there's basically nothing between the two, so I don't hold a lot of hope for quick deployment.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: randomlinh
it just irks me because I live in the initial roll out county.. and will probably be one of the last to ever get it at this rate.

I was talking with the tech who set me up and asked why my particular town was 2 years behind neighboring towns (same county). He stated that sometimes Verizon faces jurisdiction problems (vs. cable companies, etc.) and have to await a court decision. This was the case for Long Island towns and each had to provide approval. He added that in NJ, it was 1 approval for the entire state, so it was much easier. It may be the case that your towns are doing the same thing to them.

They are building it out like crazy all around me. I check the construction notifications each month praying to see my street finally show up. Driving me nucking futs to drive by the trucks doing the work in some of the neighborhoods I pass through on the way to work. So close yet so far.

It took an additional 2 months even after trucks showed up on my street & put up the cables. It was agony.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: ViRGE
I'd assume this is to screw with Comcast. Comcast's mid-tier in FIOS areas was recently made 16/2 (up from 8/768), this puts them ahead of Comcast again. It also puts them ahead of Comcast's low-end (although standard) 6/1 tier.

I'm pretty sure the 16/2 is only burst speeds, though. After any kind of sustained downloading or uploading, speeds drop back to the usual speeds. It's good for downloading a quick podcast or uploading a simple document to an email, but beyond that speeds have not changed.

In FIOS areas Comcast's mid-tier plan is called Blast. It's 16/2 sustained, with short PowerBoost bursts of up to 30Mbps down.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong


I can't imagine the download goodness with 20/20 connection.

its the upload goodness everyone is going OMG about.

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: mugs
Wow. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to offer 20/20 since it doesn't match the usage pattern of most legitimate users. Unless optical networks differ from wired networks and increasing the upload speed doesn't cost them on the download side.

don't know if it's different or not, but I suspect usage patterns will start to hit the upload speeds. With more and more people uploading pictures.. and uploading them at the full 12MP from their tiny P&S, it's going to get crowded. Add video to the mix, and I suspect this will increase quickly (relative to what it is now).

 

[PlatinumGold]

pleased to report i am not getting 15 mps down and 10 mps up as per speakeasy.net

 

[skace]

You know what would be a better title? "FIOS gets deployed even faster". Yea, that'll be the day.

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: mugs
Wow. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to offer 20/20 since it doesn't match the usage pattern of most legitimate users. Unless optical networks differ from wired networks and increasing the upload speed doesn't cost them on the download side.

Just because people cannot utilize that now (and thus usage patterns are useless) doesn't mean there isn't a desire to utilize that. Now I know you said "legitimate users" which seems to insinuate that anyone who has a need for any sort of upload bandwidth is warezing something, but that isn't the case and is a somewhat annoying standpoint to take.

There are plenty of things people at this point still cannot do very well. We can't stream our own video or audio, host game servers, web servers or even ventrilo servers. These are things people want to be able to do. Back in the day, you actually used to be able to host your own web servers pretty well but the internet has grown a lot and network up speed hasn't.

 

[StarsFan4Life]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: ropeadope
Is it in Tucson yet?...I don't really know how it works.

$65 a month is only $15 more than what I'm paying for Cox right now.

I would imagine that it'd be deployed in Phoenix before Tuscon, being the larger city with more potential customers.

I'd drop Cox Cable in about 5 seconds if they offered Verizon FIOS service here. Its possible to get Qwest Fiber a few blocks away though.

Verizon's 16 state deployment is pretty sad, they should be expanding a lot faster than what they are. A few years ago, when I first looked into FIOS, they were in the same 16 states they are today.

Thing about this is Verizon has to acquire "phone lines" so if AT&T owns them, then you can bet your ass you won't get FIOS.

I am in the same boat...I am less than 20 feet from FIOS....