highland145
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highland145
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Thinking about having my main level done. How many linear feet did you have done? How much per hour?
As far as finishing the garage, I'd just do the insulation. My new house was pre-finished and uninsulated, wish I had it. Never know if you want to use it as a workshop later, having them run gas out there and put a heater in.
I (Well, my brother and I) finished the (poor) mudding job the builder did, sanded, primed and painted. In hindsight, wish I would have taken down half of their taping job since the house settled this winter and created some bubbling/grooves. Might have to rip some down and redo it.
Rent an auto-sander from HD. Glasses and mask. Take it down in a couple hours.
Got my paint from Sherwin Williams. Got them to give me a 5gal bucket of mis-tint for $5, added in another 3gals that they gave me for $20. Decent paint, cheap.
As far as drywall not being sound for installation of organization, there are too many organization systems out there to prevent that. Gladiator, Rubbermade...etc.
I used Gladiator and love it.
I (Well, my brother and I) finished the (poor) mudding job the builder did, sanded, primed and painted. In hindsight, wish I would have taken down half of their taping job since the house settled this winter and created some bubbling/grooves. Might have to rip some down and redo it.
Rent an auto-sander from HD. Glasses and mask. Take it down in a couple hours.
Got my paint from Sherwin Williams. Got them to give me a 5gal bucket of mis-tint for $5, added in another 3gals that they gave me for $20. Decent paint, cheap.
As far as drywall not being sound for installation of organization, there are too many organization systems out there to prevent that. Gladiator, Rubbermade...etc.
I used Gladiator and love it.
DrPizza
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It's awfully easy to spend other people's money when all they really want is to brighten the place up with some paint.
In limited situations one might guess right and spending the time/money now would be financially worth it. So many variables that it is unlikely though. What if it gets turned into a home theater? It doesn't take many drywall patches from adding new circuits, speakers, and wiring to exceed the total cost of starting from scratch. Same with adding a new window or door and having to contend with existing wiring. Do covenants even allow a conversion? Will it require attic venting? What about the giant un-insulated OH door? Attic storage? Utility sink? Grow room?
Even when it will probably just always be a garage? D:
The most likely uses down the road would benefit from a bit of insulation. And, insulation is dirt cheap. If convenient to run a couple circuits from the breaker panel, that would be dirt cheap as well. A 250 foot roll of 12/2, a few boxes and a few outlets; maybe $100. Darn - plus a couple of breakers (depends on the brand.) Short term - enough power to run an air compressor and a couple other garage tools on separate circuits so as not to trip a breaker. Future limited use as a part-time living space (home theater, etc.) - toss in a small electric space heater.
If the OP plans on doing it himself, the additional time for insulation and a few outlets is trivial compared to the drywall time & painting time. IF in the future, the use requires further modifications & removal of drywall to do such, then the OP isn't really out anything, since the insulation will be just fine.
nisryus
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For my old house, I put batts around the garage walls and up in the attic, then use the this for the garage door.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Reflectix-24-in-x-100-ft-Double-Reflective-Insulation-BP24100/202851855
During summer I felt it wasn't as hot as before. Or maybe I was imagining that..
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Reflectix-24-in-x-100-ft-Double-Reflective-Insulation-BP24100/202851855
During summer I felt it wasn't as hot as before. Or maybe I was imagining that..
highland145
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It wasn't a lot, living room/small dining room but it was well worth $300, imo. I haven't don it often enough to be good at it.
monkeydelmagico
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Garage-Mahal
Drywall in my garage would last maybe a month before I'd need to patch it. I'd rather leave bare stud than have to tip toe around worrying about accidentally poking holes in pretty walls.
Fro the price of one shiny gladiator cabinet I can build an entire 3x10 workbench, shelves, hooks, bins, and overhead storage. Don't get me wrong I'd love to have the time saver of Lowes delivering my pre-constructed garage organization solution but the coin just isn't there for me.
Reminds me of the guy who buys megabuck King Ranch pickup, $10K in bolt-ons, then won't put anything in the bed or take it off road.
Aikouka
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Your girlfriend's insistence upon finishing the garage is one of the reasons why I'd like to eventually "pretty up" mine. My garage does have finished walls, but similar to part of the family room, it has that wood paneling. Frankly, wood paneling is ugly and reminds me way too much of the 70s. Removing the paneling and the drywall in the ceiling lets me not only spruce it up, but I'd also get to inspect the insulation as my garage has living areas above it. Probably one of the biggest things for me is that I also get to examine any modifications that were made. There are a few areas that I've seen where it appears that work was done, and if it's anything like what I've seen in the rest of the house, I don't trust it. I'd also get to tweak the electrical so the garage door opener is no longer on the same line as the garage lights (they removed the light socket and put a plug in its place... in the round workbox).
It reminds me of what I tell my friend, "Appearance is everything." Whenever I consider any sort of change, I try to keep in mind not only what I want, but what someone in the future may want. It seems weird, but essentially, if I sell my house, I don't want some modification that I do to turn people off. For example, one modification that I'm contemplating is removing the wall between the small master bathroom and the adjascent bedroom and using that extra space to enlarge the bathroom and add a walk-in closet. I technically don't need this change (I would like more closet space, but it's not a huge problem), but it would appeal heavily to some. When I described it to a friend, even he seemed rather excited by the idea; I figured it'd appeal more to women. I mean... I'm sure if you ask most people, "Would you be willing to go from 5 bedrooms to 4 if it allowed you to go from a small master bathroom with one sink, a toilet and a standing shower to two sinks, standing shower, toilet and jetted tub with a large walk-in closet?", I'm pretty sure they'd say "yes".
It reminds me of what I tell my friend, "Appearance is everything." Whenever I consider any sort of change, I try to keep in mind not only what I want, but what someone in the future may want. It seems weird, but essentially, if I sell my house, I don't want some modification that I do to turn people off. For example, one modification that I'm contemplating is removing the wall between the small master bathroom and the adjascent bedroom and using that extra space to enlarge the bathroom and add a walk-in closet. I technically don't need this change (I would like more closet space, but it's not a huge problem), but it would appeal heavily to some. When I described it to a friend, even he seemed rather excited by the idea; I figured it'd appeal more to women. I mean... I'm sure if you ask most people, "Would you be willing to go from 5 bedrooms to 4 if it allowed you to go from a small master bathroom with one sink, a toilet and a standing shower to two sinks, standing shower, toilet and jetted tub with a large walk-in closet?", I'm pretty sure they'd say "yes".
Cover the walls and ceiling with 6mil, white, flame retardant, reinforced sheeting.
It would add some dead air space in the wall cavities, seal up the garage, brighten it up and pretty it up, all for cheap $$.
It would add some dead air space in the wall cavities, seal up the garage, brighten it up and pretty it up, all for cheap $$.
purbeast0
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my garage is finished but does not have insulation. i wish it did. when i'm changing oil in the winter it's pretty f'ing cold out there. i also like to smoke hookah with my buddy every now and then and in the winter we sit in the garage so it's not windy or anything, but it's still cold. i also have an arcade game out there that i never really use, but i'd never even consider it in the winter time.
Looks like I'll be insulating it.
Had the home inspected yesterday. It passed, but the inspector noted that there's no insulation behind the drywall in the basement. The basement is unfinished, but the foundation is framed up and has drywall on it. I want to run circuits, etc. so I was going to have to pull the dry wall down, but since it doesn't have insulation, I'm just going to buy enough to do both the basement and garage.
Budget is an issue. Recommendations on good INEXPENSIVE insulation?
Had the home inspected yesterday. It passed, but the inspector noted that there's no insulation behind the drywall in the basement. The basement is unfinished, but the foundation is framed up and has drywall on it. I want to run circuits, etc. so I was going to have to pull the dry wall down, but since it doesn't have insulation, I'm just going to buy enough to do both the basement and garage.
Budget is an issue. Recommendations on good INEXPENSIVE insulation?
DrPizza
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When it's on sale, fiberglass. I haven't paid too careful of attention, but the price has seemed fairly consistent from store to store.
No you won't (unless you want to insulate the basement). You will need a buddy for a second set of hands, preferably one who has experience with a wire snake. The fact you have no insulation behind the walls makes this even easier. The snake will allow you to pull wire from point A to B. My electrician and I wired up my 2 story, 2 family house and even snaked a wire from the basement all the way to the attic and across a staircase. We did not need to cut a hole in any ceiling or wall to accomplish this.
You can get creative too and tie a screw or small weight to a string and drop it along a chimney or slab wall and reach for it in the basement if your construction permits this in lieu of a snake. Cut holes with a drywall saw for your outlets to finish the job
I definitely want to insulate the basement.
And I have an electrician buddy who's going to take the lead on the electrical install (no pun intended).
As opposed to what? My garage was drywalled/mudded/taped, it was a new-build house and was built according to code, which required fire barrier mudding/taping. So what was my option there chuckles? Let the mud/taping get scratched/dirty, let the drywall yellow and water spots form on the bottom with mud/water through winter? Sure, coulda done that.
Save your derision for somebody else. I finished it myself, took a couple weekends. Probably going to be building a deck and screen porch with a couple buddies to save myself 30k. I'm far from a "just buy it" guy.
And how much time will it take you to build all of that? Instead, I just bought 2 of the Edsal rack units along one wall, bridged to 3 shelves. Gladiator on back wall, 2 cabs that I bought for 99 each, rest of it was all clearance that I had bought over a year.
Reminds me of the guy who jumps to conclusions without asking for details.
Scarpozzi
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It's best to use drywall.....especially if you store cars or gasoline in your garage. You may also want to invest in a 90 minute fire door between the garage and house. They provide additional protection in the event of a fire to keep the damage isolated, if possible. In my city, that's code.
Your picture suggests that you likely won't benefit much from the insulation...but it could be a difference of 10-20 degrees in the winter or summer months if you want to work in the garage and the cost won't be all that much. The ceiling insulation may really help keep the inside cooler in the summer months and keep any heat in. The outside walls, not facing the house won't benefit much, but will benefit some. You may already have the walls between the garage and house insulated on the inside....but considering how much cold air can rush into a garage when the door is opened, you may want to insulate that wall at the very least.
Your picture suggests that you likely won't benefit much from the insulation...but it could be a difference of 10-20 degrees in the winter or summer months if you want to work in the garage and the cost won't be all that much. The ceiling insulation may really help keep the inside cooler in the summer months and keep any heat in. The outside walls, not facing the house won't benefit much, but will benefit some. You may already have the walls between the garage and house insulated on the inside....but considering how much cold air can rush into a garage when the door is opened, you may want to insulate that wall at the very least.
DrPizza
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I'm guessing your home is an older home with balloon framing. Modern construction calls for fire stops - you're not simply snaking a wire up through walls to the attic without drilling holes through lumber in a modern home. I was lucky when I rewired my first home that I had this type of construction - it was a 100+ year old house. I'm also curious how you moved horizontally through walls without drilling through the 2x4s.
speaking of insulation, does anyone know if foil-faced fiberglass roll insulation is still being sold? I haven't seen at home depot lowes in some time.
Subyman
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I wouldn't insulate it without a future project in mind. If you were going to do a big project like a theater and such then you'd need to gut it again anyway. To hang and mud that garage from a pro is probably $1500-2000. Just do that and move on. You'll likely sell the house in 10 years. Better to sell and buy a house that meets your needs than blow it out with additions or ruin the garage space.
(That opinion does depend on the market)
(That opinion does depend on the market)
Humpy
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DrPizza
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And for only 10% more, the garage is insulated in a climate where the average low is below freezing for 3 months of the year. That makes a significant difference if even just using it as a garage to do some work in. I really don't think that spending $200 on a home project comes close to "blow it out." Not insulating at this time when he's about to put drywall on the walls would be like doing a major job on a car engine at 75,000 miles, and not bothering to change the timing belt because it's not necessary for another 25k miles, and there's no guarantee you'll have the car for another 25k miles. The additional cost/time is trivial, compared to the cost/time if you decide to do it a few years down the road, and it would add resale value.
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