Originally posted by: daw123
Looking good. The pillar drill is a godsend when it comes to drilling all those holes.
How comes you used solid ally bar, rather than square section (which would weigh less and have about the same strength)? Its going to way a ton once you've finished.
Are you using self-tapping screws or tapping each hole individually (because that would be a pita)?
Nice work legoman666. Good craftsmanship and nice use of Sketchup. I haven't touched my AutoCAD suite (AutoDesk AutoCAD 2002,2006,2007) and 3D-Studio Max (Also AutoDesk), SolidWorks and Google Sketchup Pro 6 in a long time. I used to design custom cases with the intent of having Mountain Mods manufacture them for me, but never had the money. I also designed a few houses with the help of a structural engineer and an architect. Sketchup is has a really nice presentation to its models, but I prefer AutoCAD and Solidworks for actual CAD drawings.
EDIT: I noticed in your recent revision of your radiators, the pump is no longer in the bottom section. Where will it be placed?
Very nice. A router or laminate trimmer w/ templates will do for cutting plexi. CD wrote about it here.
Originally posted by: Rubycon
Have you tried using straight paddle shallow volute centrifugal designs (which the 1250 is) with viscous fluids for extended periods of time?
Originally posted by: daw123
@legoman666. I've just had a look at the linked thread in your previous post; well done on the design and fab work. It's not something I would even attempt to do.
Am I correct in guessing that the cooling process is this: the PC components (exc. drives) are in the tank, which is filled with mineral oil. A pump in the bottom of the case, circulates the oil heated by the components in the tank to the air-cooled rads which cool the oil.
Originally posted by: PCTC2
Water is not conductive in pure form. Only when it is a solution (aka ions are in solution with water), then it is conductive. Pure water is a molecule and the charge cannot flow freely across so it is non-conductive. Ions create a charged bridge across water. But it is indeed very hard to seal a system so there are no ions present. I wonder if an emulsifier such as alcohol in solution with water would help 'dissolve' mineral oil so that there is less chance of creating an ionic bridge across the solution.
Also, don't seal your HDD. There's a reason why there's the airhole. Its for when it spools up, the air pressure changes inside, and you don't want any extra pressure building up in your drive. I'd keep them above the surface.
Originally posted by: PCTC2
Water is not conductive in pure form. Only when it is a solution (aka ions are in solution with water), then it is conductive. Pure water is a molecule and the charge cannot flow freely across so it is non-conductive. Ions create a charged bridge across water. But it is indeed very hard to seal a system so there are no ions present. I wonder if an emulsifier such as alcohol in solution with water would help 'dissolve' mineral oil so that there is less chance of creating an ionic bridge across the solution.
Also, don't seal your HDD. There's a reason why there's the airhole. Its for when it spools up, the air pressure changes inside, and you don't want any extra pressure building up in your drive. I'd keep them above the surface.
Originally posted by: daw123
Originally posted by: PCTC2
Water is not conductive in pure form. Only when it is a solution (aka ions are in solution with water), then it is conductive. Pure water is a molecule and the charge cannot flow freely across so it is non-conductive. Ions create a charged bridge across water. But it is indeed very hard to seal a system so there are no ions present. I wonder if an emulsifier such as alcohol in solution with water would help 'dissolve' mineral oil so that there is less chance of creating an ionic bridge across the solution.
Also, don't seal your HDD. There's a reason why there's the airhole. Its for when it spools up, the air pressure changes inside, and you don't want any extra pressure building up in your drive. I'd keep them above the surface.
I was thinking; are there additives, which you can add to pure water to maintain its non-conductivity?
What about considering other oils, like transformer oil?
Originally posted by: legoman666
If you don't want to read through the pages of comments, click "View Mode" then select "View Author's Posts" (Sure is nice to have modern message board software, isn't it?)
Originally posted by: legoman666
Originally posted by: daw123
Originally posted by: PCTC2
Water is not conductive in pure form. Only when it is a solution (aka ions are in solution with water), then it is conductive. Pure water is a molecule and the charge cannot flow freely across so it is non-conductive. Ions create a charged bridge across water. But it is indeed very hard to seal a system so there are no ions present. I wonder if an emulsifier such as alcohol in solution with water would help 'dissolve' mineral oil so that there is less chance of creating an ionic bridge across the solution.
Also, don't seal your HDD. There's a reason why there's the airhole. Its for when it spools up, the air pressure changes inside, and you don't want any extra pressure building up in your drive. I'd keep them above the surface.
I was thinking; are there additives, which you can add to pure water to maintain its non-conductivity?
What about considering other oils, like transformer oil?
They use mineral oil in transformers 😉 I work for a major power utility and I visited the shop in which they service some of the broken/old transformers.
http://i28.photobucket.com/alb...og/log_0206091056a.jpg
I wanted to steal some 🙁
Originally posted by: legoman666
Originally posted by: PCTC2
Water is not conductive in pure form. Only when it is a solution (aka ions are in solution with water), then it is conductive. Pure water is a molecule and the charge cannot flow freely across so it is non-conductive. Ions create a charged bridge across water. But it is indeed very hard to seal a system so there are no ions present. I wonder if an emulsifier such as alcohol in solution with water would help 'dissolve' mineral oil so that there is less chance of creating an ionic bridge across the solution.
Also, don't seal your HDD. There's a reason why there's the airhole. Its for when it spools up, the air pressure changes inside, and you don't want any extra pressure building up in your drive. I'd keep them above the surface.
Yea, the problem is that even deionized water gains ions from just about everything too quickly to be used long term. I found a site where someone tested deionized water submersion. The PC lasted 5 minutes before the water gained enough free ions to short something.
As for the sealed hdd, that's the purpose of the test 😉 I'll be sacrificing an old IDE drive to the cause.
Originally posted by: daw123
How is the case fab progressing legoman666?
Nice circuit btw. Do the lights switch on and off in sequence, like the front LED display on KITT (I'm guessing this is what you mean by chaser lights)?
Originally posted by: legoman666
Originally posted by: daw123
How is the case fab progressing legoman666?
Nice circuit btw. Do the lights switch on and off in sequence, like the front LED display on KITT (I'm guessing this is what you mean by chaser lights)?
I don't have time to do much serious work on the case during the week, I just do smaller things, like that circuit. Yes, the lights switch on and off in sequence, watch the youtube video I posted, it has a quick demonstration 😉 My lights are similar to KITT, but not the same, mine don't go back and forth. They just go across and start over from the beginning.
Originally posted by: daw123
Thanks for the response. Sorry I didn't watch the video; I couldn't since my slow broadband connection would ah heck up my downloads.
And thank you for the work log; I'm interested in your works progress and what the finished product will be like, since metal fab interests me.
I've always wanted to learn how to weld and carry out basic metal fab work, but unfortunately since I live in a predominantly academic community (Oxford, UK) there are not many places in the local area, where I can go to evening courses. Plus my vocation isn't linked to metal working, so I couldn't get financial help from work for course fees (some of the fab work / welding courses cost £500+).
I'm happy that I accomplished this and thisfab without ruining the top panel, even though it was very simple compared to what you are attempting.
Originally posted by: legoman666
Heh, I don't know the first thing about welding.😀 If I ever needed to do some welding, I'd have to hit up my neighbor, I know he does some. I'm an EE student, the only practical stuff we do is little electronics labs. That cutout for the rad looks pretty good, did you use a dremel for that? (I despise using the dremel)