Finally

[brycejones]

Wait. Is all he doing reversing Obama's move on Net Neutrality?

Before we go down that rabbit hole further are you opposed to Net Neutrality and think it should be undone?

 

[Atreus21]

Before we go down that rabbit hole further are you opposed to Net Neutrality and think it should be undone?

I'd like an answer. It's a simple enough question. From what I can tell all he's doing is undoing Net Neutrality. Is that correct?

 

[brycejones]

I'd like an answer. It's a simple enough question. From what I can tell all he's doing is undoing Net Neutrality. Is that correct?

Are you unable to come to a conclusion from the article on your own?

 

[Atreus21]

Are you unable to come to a conclusion from the article on your own?

Well, I read it, and it sure seems to me that he's just revoking net neutrality.

Which, unless I'm mistaken, doesn't quite warrant yet another democrat the-apocalypse-is-upon-us thread.

Which is why I asked the question: Am I missing something?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Have no fear Lefties, the Reps will blow it just like they did in 2004-2008.

you add so much enlightened conversation to the discussion, it's a joy having you here and in these debates/discussions.

 

[bshole]

Well, I read it, and it sure seems to me that he's just revoking net neutrality.

Which, unless I'm mistaken, doesn't quite warrant yet another democrat the-apocalypse-is-upon-us thread.

Which is why I asked the question: Am I missing something?

Yes you are. ISPs have NEVER been able to throttle traffic. This will be a new thing and you can expect your internet bills to triple or more to keep the same speeds you have now.

If you support this bill in any way, then you quite simply do not do internet. This is an open grift on consumers as was the last atrocity the Republicans just passed. It is amazing to me that the little people who support the Republicans have no sense of self-preservation. There is literally no limit that they will balk at in giving their hard-earned money to the wealthy. They actually believe the wealthy deserve more of the their own money. It is completely irrational.

Check out all the great stuff that is headed our way....

On Jan. 14, 2014, a federal court of appeals struck down the Federal Communications Commission’s Open Internet Order, which was designed to prevent Internet service providers from blocking or slowing users’ connections to online content. The court did not comment on the validity of these rules but simply said that the FCC had used the wrong legal foundation to justify them.

In response, on May 15 FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler released flawed Internet rules that would have let ISPs charge content companies for priority treatment — relegating all other content to a slower tier of service.

Wheeler’s plan would have allowed telecom giants like AT&T, Comcast and Verizon to pick winners and losers online and discriminate against online content and applications. And it would have destroyed the open Internet.

Without Net Neutrality, ISPs would be able to devise new schemes to charge users more for access and services, making it harder for us to communicate online — and easier for companies to censor our speech. The Internet could come to resemble cable TV, where gatekeepers exert control over where you go and what you see.

Without Net Neutrality, ISPs would be able to block content and speech they don’t like, reject apps that compete with their own offerings, and prioritize Web traffic (reserving the fastest loading speeds for the highest bidders and sticking everyone else with the slowest).

 

[theeedude]

You gotta love the Republican base. For decades, they vote for politicians who pass laws that transfer power and tax benefits from themselves to rent-seeking monopolies, who then proceed to fleece them like they deserve. And then they blame "bad hombres" because their middle class lifestyle went poof.

 

[dank69]

Well, I read it, and it sure seems to me that he's just revoking net neutrality.

Which, unless I'm mistaken, doesn't quite warrant yet another democrat the-apocalypse-is-upon-us thread.

Which is why I asked the question: Am I missing something?

Yup that's it "just" undoing net neutrality. Not like he's making abortion illegal or anything you fucking Cletus. Can we expect you to vomit Ted Cruz's Santorum next? Net neutrality was a government takeover of the internet, right? Right?

 

[dank69]

LOL, you really believe that? Their team is winning, they being the rich and connected. Do you seriously think it was any different under the Dems? That it would have been different under Billary? Billary the Corp whore? You are lolerskates crazy if you think that...



First, you're not protecting anything. Unless I missed the news reports of a Lefty mob literally besieging DNC headquarters and beating the Leadership senseless in the streets, nothing is being accomplished. Whining on AnandTech and Facebook isn't accomplishing anything. Getting all fired up for 2018 and 2020 and electing more Dems (sent to you by the same old DNC, who will bill itself as the Completely Better! DNC) who either are, or will be once they're in DC, Corp whores isn't fixing anything. We need politicians - not Politicians - who have morals where it doesn't matter to them if they get re-elected, they do the right thing because that's what their position, and firstly their own value system, requires them to do. Where are you going to find those people? They rapidly aren't existing any longer, and Liberal America, Wall Street, and Corp America have been doing their collective best to ensure they are mitigated as much as possible. Each time you guys don't get the results you've been working towards it's more excuses and deflections on why it was some else's fault this time...but, with just a little more Media, and little more indoctrination, next time will be it. Wake up man, or keep on the indoctrination tract...whichever suits you I guess.

P.S. And LOL on Bummer and 2A. If Bummer had a 5-4 SC in his favor and a Dem supermajority, it's LOLcrazy to suggest he and the Dems wouldn't have gone hard after 'the gunz!'. Bummer didn't go after the guns because he needed to a.) get re-elected in 2012 and b.) didn't have the Congress he needed 2012 onwards. It's just bizarre the stuff you guys will tell yourselves...

Yup, see? Still convinced Obama wanted your guns, lol. He had supermajority and focused on trying to fix your healthcare, and you are too stupid to admit that while American healthcare still sucks it is a bit better than before the ACA. He and the Dems also blocked this GOP initiative and put what protections in place that he could to try and thwart this next attack. You're fucking welcome.

 

[Moonbeam]

Yup that's it "just" undoing net neutrality. Not like he's making abortion illegal or anything you fucking Cletus. Can we expect you to vomit Ted Cruz's Santorum next? Net neutrality was a government takeover of the internet, right? Right?

Gosh, dank, I have to say that felt a bit brutal to me. I really don't have the same opinions that Atreus does, but I took his question to be sincere rather than pretended incredulity and I hate it when people get slammed for an open expression of ignorance and asking for more information. To me it's like crapping on a good thing.

 

[dank69]

Gosh, dank, I have to say that felt a bit brutal to me. I really don't have the same opinions that Atreus does, but I took his question to be sincere rather than pretended incredulity and I hate it when people get slammed for an open expression of ignorance and asking for more information. To me it's like crapping on a good thing.

I wish he was genuinely asking. His wording makes it clear to me that he thinks Trump wants to undo what he has been programmed to believe is Obama's big government overreach.

 

[Moonbeam]

I wish he was genuinely asking. His wording makes it clear to me that he thinks Trump wants to undo what he has been programmed to believe is Obama's big government overreach.

I get that but what I heard was that he didn't know what about revocation was so catastrophic in the mind of those upset by this. I think bshole, if a bit testy too, properly answered his question. Anyway, you know what they say about vinegar and sugar.

 

[ivwshane]

I get that but what I heard was that he didn't know what about revocation was so catastrophic in the mind of those upset by this. I think bshole, if a bit testy too, properly answered his question. Anyway, you know what they say about vinegar and sugar.

Neither cures stupidity?

 

[agent00f]

You guys? My preference is a neutron bomb hit DC, and to be safe, the surrounding area. Don't act like I'm over there being the Whore-Legal (aka Lawyer) writing all this shit to get passed...

Pretty comical given what you parrot is same as the rest of the trump base.

 

[Moonbeam]

Neither cures stupidity?

Listen you god damned fucking stupid moron, I'm well aware of that.

Errrrr, what I meant to say was that in order to preserve my own dignity and sense that I treat people well in this only life that I have, that I manifest outwardly the dignity that would naturally emanate from an enlightened person if I were one and so that I don't stand in my own way in the desire to be that in reality, I wanted to tell dank that I worry that his seeming harshness wouldn't likewise stand in his way to that same goal. I wasn't trying to cure stupid. I wanted to put in a good word for honesty and the warning I just made as to what is in jeopardy when we belittle it. Now that you are correctly informed of the facts you may apologize to me and I will see to it that your bad karma is erased, you f............... Never mind..

 

[agent00f]

Listen you god damned fucking stupid moron, I'm well aware of that.

Errrrr, what I meant to say was that in order to preserve my own dignity and sense that I treat people well in this only life that I have, that I manifest outwardly the dignity that would naturally emanate from an enlightened person if I were one and so that I don't stand in my own way in the desire to be that in reality, I wanted to tell dank that I worry that his seeming harshness wouldn't likewise stand in his way to that same goal. I wasn't trying to cure stupid. I wanted to put in a good word for honesty and the warning I just made as to what is in jeopardy when we belittle it. Now that you are correctly informed of the facts you may apologize to me and I will see to it that your bad karma is erased, you f............... Never mind..

If what you proclaim is in any way true, then previous invitations to provide examples of where your jesus-love worked wouldn't have remain conspicuously unanswered. I mean, it's not as if people have been turning out stupid & degenerate (which they often were for much of history before proliferation of enlightenment ideals) all that time as some kind of FU to god. Hell, devout christians where responsible for more than their fair share.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I didn't read Atreus' question as sincere. He knows exactly what the ruling is, and the consequences for consumers. I read his question as rhetorical, trying to rationalize another attack from the administration he supports.

 

[dank69]

Listen you god damned fucking stupid moron, I'm well aware of that.

Errrrr, what I meant to say was that in order to preserve my own dignity and sense that I treat people well in this only life that I have, that I manifest outwardly the dignity that would naturally emanate from an enlightened person if I were one and so that I don't stand in my own way in the desire to be that in reality, I wanted to tell dank that I worry that his seeming harshness wouldn't likewise stand in his way to that same goal. I wasn't trying to cure stupid. I wanted to put in a good word for honesty and the warning I just made as to what is in jeopardy when we belittle it. Now that you are correctly informed of the facts you may apologize to me and I will see to it that your bad karma is erased, you f............... Never mind..

In light of recent events my goals have shifted. I care much less about saving a world that does not want to be saved. My main goal now is just to enjoy as many strawberries as I can and this is a big fat ripe one.

 

[ivwshane]

Listen you god damned fucking stupid moron, I'm well aware of that.

Errrrr, what I meant to say was that in order to preserve my own dignity and sense that I treat people well in this only life that I have, that I manifest outwardly the dignity that would naturally emanate from an enlightened person if I were one and so that I don't stand in my own way in the desire to be that in reality, I wanted to tell dank that I worry that his seeming harshness wouldn't likewise stand in his way to that same goal. I wasn't trying to cure stupid. I wanted to put in a good word for honesty and the warning I just made as to what is in jeopardy when we belittle it. Now that you are correctly informed of the facts you may apologize to me and I will see to it that your bad karma is erased, you f............... Never mind..

Lol, I'm perfectly aware of what you were saying, I'm also aware of your thinking being the wishful type.
Now, as agent kindly pointed out, when has "your way" or jhhnns ever worked on someone on the fringe? I've certainly never seen it work, so any example would be appreciated. Now before you go off on me again, understand that I also realize my way, as well as agents way, also doesn't work (I've said as much in the past).

And so remains the unanswered question; how to do get through those that wish to be stupid?






Btw, your impression of me was quite funny.

 

[Moonbeam]

Lol, I'm perfectly aware of what you were saying, I'm also aware of your thinking being the wishful type.
Now, as agent kindly pointed out, when has "your way" or jhhnns ever worked on someone on the fringe? I've certainly never seen it work, so any example would be appreciated. Now before you go off on me again, understand that I also realize my way, as well as agents way, also doesn't work (I've said as much in the past).

And so remains the unanswered question; how to do get through those that wish to be stupid?

Btw, your impression of me was quite funny.

Somebody introduced on this forum some time back as I recall, the notion that conservatives suffer from a brain defect and that the nature of that defect is to rationalize away information that does not sit well with their beliefs. As I recall, a bunch of peer reviewed scientific studies were listed that prove scientifically, that conservatives do this to a greater degree than liberals and that the phenomena is statistically linked to conservatives also statistically having enlarged right amygdalae compared to liberals. The scientific facts are then, not that conservatives are stupid, but that their intelligence is used in the manufacture of self convincing rationalizations. The insistance on calling them stupid, then, I would suggest, is what we observe in liberals as a manifestation of their brain defect, an inability to read the areas of moral concern that conservatives have that liberals don't get. This is why it is also a scientifically proven fact that conservatives understand liberals better than the liberals understand conservatives. They probably, in fact, see you as rather stupid and perhaps even morally disgusting.

So if I remember correctly, whoever the genius was who introduced the CBD concept to this forum, I just wish it had been me, because what was clearly and voluminously stated also about conservatives is that they are hopeless. They can't be reached and if I had been that person I would evoke that fact in my defense against your charge that I engage in wishful thinking. But alas, this history seems to have been lost. And the opinion that conservatives are stupid still reigns supreme.

Well anyway, that leaves us with the question how do you get through to people who can't be gotten through to,, and now I think we can see that the question answers itself. Let me now then ask you a question. Why are you and the other nut-ball, Agent Orange, ranting like idiots about how stupid, racist, and deplorable conservatives are? What do you hope to gain other than relieving yourselves of some rather obvious festering hate? Am I getting through to you, you stupid deplorable bigots, or am I engaged again in my usual imbecilic wishful thinking?

My point has never been about how to reach such people as you and they, but to describe your mental condition like opening a window so that the bats flying around in your belfries might accidentally fly out. My point is that where there is a need for others to see, there is an ego disease at the root of that disease.

Conservatives are very good at deflecting ideas such as this. Care to see how well you can compete with them? Later, this fool needs to get back to standing on the hill. Love you!

 

[Moonbeam]

In light of recent events my goals have shifted. I care much less about saving a world that does not want to be saved. My main goal now is just to enjoy as many strawberries as I can and this is a big fat ripe one.

To me a strawberry is a symbol for a psycho-spiritual realization, the realization of a higher state of consciousness based on insight and inspiration, the results in a blinding intuition following deep and protracted focus on ones existential dilemma that is created by duality. What Atreus represents to me is something rather different. I can't help but see in him a person with a very deep belief in the sanctity of life, a faith that to me would be a sin to mock. So, while I rather disagree on the absolute position he takes because abortion involves legitimate principles other than the sanctity of life, like the right of self determination, I can't ignore that what I consider his misguided single-mindedness, I love his faith in the sanctity of life.

Also, speaking of the sanctity of life, a principle that I believe to be innate in human beings, the presence of a world that does not want to be saved can only be a cry for help. You know too, I hope, that frustrated hope makes people more conservative. And if it is true what I have heard, that the enlightened say the mark of a man is in his aim, then I recommend as a vow the intention to save all sentient beings. As the dearly departed Avatar of God, Meher Baba, used to say, 'I am the divinely beloved who loves you more than you can ever love yourself. Relax and be happy.' Sadly,, all I can offer is that 'strawberries can give you gas.'

 

[agent00f]

Lol, I'm perfectly aware of what you were saying, I'm also aware of your thinking being the wishful type.
Now, as agent kindly pointed out, when has "your way" or jhhnns ever worked on someone on the fringe? I've certainly never seen it work, so any example would be appreciated. Now before you go off on me again, understand that I also realize my way, as well as agents way, also doesn't work (I've said as much in the past).

And so remains the unanswered question; how to do get through those that wish to be stupid?

Btw, your impression of me was quite funny.

Just a heads up that stomping on degenerates isn't meant to succeed in the same way that 12 years of western liberal education have failed. It simply confers a cost to degeneracy, and even conservatives understand how punishment works, which is why we don't see the previously regular threads or such for every time some brown does anything untoward and similar conservatism.

Now, this very arguably isn't ideal, but at least it learns from aforementioned failure by not repeating it, and gets the job done.

Somebody introduced on this forum some time back as I recall, the notion that conservatives suffer from a brain defect and that the nature of that defect is to rationalize away information that does not sit well with their beliefs. As I recall, a bunch of peer reviewed scientific studies were listed that prove scientifically, that conservatives do this to a greater degree than liberals and that the phenomena is statistically linked to conservatives also statistically having enlarged right amygdalae compared to liberals. The scientific facts are then, not that conservatives are stupid, but that their intelligence is used in the manufacture of self convincing rationalizations. The insistance on calling them stupid, then, I would suggest, is what we observe in liberals as a manifestation of their brain defect, an inability to read the areas of moral concern that conservatives have that liberals don't get. This is why it is also a scientifically proven fact that conservatives understand liberals better than the liberals understand conservatives. They probably, in fact, see you as rather stupid and perhaps even morally disgusting.

So if I remember correctly, whoever the genius was who introduced the CBD concept to this forum, I just wish it had been me, because what was clearly and voluminously stated also about conservatives is that they are hopeless. They can't be reached and if I had been that person I would evoke that fact in my defense against your charge that I engage in wishful thinking. But alas, this history seems to have been lost. And the opinion that conservatives are stupid still reigns supreme.

Well anyway, that leaves us with the question how do you get through to people who can't be gotten through to,, and now I think we can see that the question answers itself. Let me now then ask you a question. Why are you and the other nut-ball, Agent Orange, ranting like idiots about how stupid, racist, and deplorable conservatives are? What do you hope to gain other than relieving yourselves of some rather obvious festering hate? Am I getting through to you, you stupid deplorable bigots, or am I engaged again in my usual imbecilic wishful thinking?

My point has never been about how to reach such people as you and they, but to describe your mental condition like opening a window so that the bats flying around in your belfries might accidentally fly out. My point is that where there is a need for others to see, there is an ego disease at the root of that disease.

Conservatives are very good at deflecting ideas such as this. Care to see how well you can compete with them? Later, this fool needs to get back to standing on the hill. Love you!

If there's anything we've learned from science it's that it's best to measure validity based on effectiveness, and it's hard to argue that this pavlovian conditioning isn't effective. Take this as yet another opportunity to demonstrate the validity of what you do, though it seems you've already admitted it's little more than wishful rhetoric.

 

[dank69]

To me a strawberry is a symbol for a psycho-spiritual realization, the realization of a higher state of consciousness based on insight and inspiration, the results in a blinding intuition following deep and protracted focus on ones existential dilemma that is created by duality. What Atreus represents to me is something rather different. I can't help but see in him a person with a very deep belief in the sanctity of life, a faith that to me would be a sin to mock. So, while I rather disagree on the absolute position he takes because abortion involves legitimate principles other than the sanctity of life, like the right of self determination, I can't ignore that what I consider his misguided single-mindedness, I love his faith in the sanctity of life.

Also, speaking of the sanctity of life, a principle that I believe to be innate in human beings, the presence of a world that does not want to be saved can only be a cry for help. You know too, I hope, that frustrated hope makes people more conservative. And if it is true what I have heard, that the enlightened say the mark of a man is in his aim, then I recommend as a vow the intention to save all sentient beings. As the dearly departed Avatar of God, Meher Baba, used to say, 'I am the divinely beloved who loves you more than you can ever love yourself. Relax and be happy.' Sadly,, all I can offer is that 'strawberries can give you gas.'

See, Atreus isn't the strawberry. The topic of this thread is my strawberry. The fact that many conservatives on this very forum for whom internet freedom and privacy are of the utmost importance will spend the next few months telling us why this policy along with the other allowing isps to sell browser histories are what this country really needs, that is my strawberry, and clearly it is making me flatulate all over this thread.

 

[brycejones]

I didn't read Atreus' question as sincere. He knows exactly what the ruling is, and the consequences for consumers. I read his question as rhetorical, trying to rationalize another attack from the administration he supports.

Well that and he was too chicken to come right out with it. He was trying to tee something up instead of straight up giving his take on it.

 

[disappoint]

If what you proclaim is in any way true, then previous invitations to provide examples of where your jesus-love worked wouldn't have remain conspicuously unanswered. I mean, it's not as if people have been turning out stupid & degenerate (which they often were for much of history before proliferation of enlightenment ideals) all that time as some kind of FU to god. Hell, devout christians where responsible for more than their fair share.

You're right their behavior wasn't a FU to god, it was a FU to each other. You know, just like you do.