ThatsABigOne
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JulesMaximus
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You will need the fueler, the air cleaner is a tossup. A PC-III or V would be the least expensive option, there almost has to be a map around for the combo you'll be using.
The apes would be alright as long as you don't go to high, there is no way in hell I'd put whitewalls on that bike though.
The apes would be alright as long as you don't go to high, there is no way in hell I'd put whitewalls on that bike though.
OILFIELDTRASH
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If you get a full exhaust I'd get a power commander 5. No need for a new air filter. You can get the power commander mapped for your bike with the stock air filter. It'll cost around $300 for the dynotune, $300 for the power commander 5, and whatever the full exhaust costs you. If the exhaust you're getting is a slip-on (using stock headers) I wouldn't worry about getting a pc5. Getting a full exhaust and a pc5 with a custom tune will wake that bike up for sure. Usually on crotch rockets your looking at 10-15 extra horses with a tune and a pipe. That's nothing to sneeze at when your talking about a 400lb vehicle. I imagine with the Harley you're looking at at least 7-10 extra Horsepower.
What do you think it would run me if I had a shop do it?
Apes - looking at roland sands mini apes
OILFIELDTRASH
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Power commander installation
http://www.powercommander.com/downloads/817/install/511/eng817-511.pdf
Simple as taking off the seat and unplugging a few things and plugging in the power commander connections. After install you will need to load a map into your power commander for your specific pipe which the manufacturer Dynojet provides. The maps Dynojet provides are going to get you close as far as running pretty well and not damaging your engine but a custom dynotune would be best as all bikes are a little different and the weather is different where you are as opposed to Las Vegas where Dynojet's facility is.
As far as the pipe install its a few flange bolts at the headers and probably a few other clamps. Look on YouTube for sportster or Harley pipe installs. Simple as pie.
http://www.powercommander.com/downloads/817/install/511/eng817-511.pdf
Simple as taking off the seat and unplugging a few things and plugging in the power commander connections. After install you will need to load a map into your power commander for your specific pipe which the manufacturer Dynojet provides. The maps Dynojet provides are going to get you close as far as running pretty well and not damaging your engine but a custom dynotune would be best as all bikes are a little different and the weather is different where you are as opposed to Las Vegas where Dynojet's facility is.
As far as the pipe install its a few flange bolts at the headers and probably a few other clamps. Look on YouTube for sportster or Harley pipe installs. Simple as pie.
Nice. I def would like to work on my bike myself instead of just having someone else do it. Thank you for your advice...and when the time comes for me to install I may be asking some more questions
OILFIELDTRASH
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It looks like your '07 sportster only works with the power commander 3 not pc5. I'd look into it and make sure you get the right one. Also make sure you don't get the EX version which is the California emissions version which basically neuters your bike to comply with Cali's strict emissions standards. You might need some more exhaust gaskets to seal the headers. You can sometimes reuse them but it's nice to have a set in case the headers have an exhaust leak. They should be no more than $20 for the exhaust gaskets.
I have the power commander III
Check out hdforums.com, they have a classifieds section and a ton of useful info on the boards
Check out hdforums.com, they have a classifieds section and a ton of useful info on the boards
Yea, been browsing them fairly frequently. I actually came upon this as a suggestion for a passenger seat:
http://phantom-pad.com/retailstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=3
Might not be a bad idea so it's easily removable, etc and I can just switch up the stock single seat to something more comfortable for myself.
hanoverphist
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i loved the mustang saddle i had on my old bike. those things are very good quality. unfortunately, if it gets cut and sits outside for about 15 years they get destroyed.
It should work with the 5 as well. The reason they say 08 and up is because the older bikes don't have o2 sensor bungs. That's the way it is with V-Rods, and I assume the delphi ECM in the air cooled bikes is the same unit.
Zenmervolt
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Get the V&H quiet baffles. They lower the db by about 8.
You don't need to buy a FuelPak/Power Commander or anything if you just replace the exhaust. If you replace the air cleaner as well, then you'll want a tuner. Dyno tune is the best but it's expensive to have done. Just go with the X14ied system; easy as pie to install. The Fuelpak is an absolute whore to install (thing barely fits anywhere). I have one and I have it routed all over the place.
As for seats, Mustang pretty much makes the best seats according to most of the people I know. I've been riding stock for over a year and it's not that bad. A spring seat would be nice, too, which is what I'll be doing. If you want 2up you'll have to look at a seat with a nice pad for the passenger (as well as passenger pegs).
Some of the easier mods to do with a new bike are grips and bars. Grips can be a bit of a pain in the ass but it shouldn't take any more than an hour the first time. Any time after that will be 15-20 minutes.
Bars are relatively simple to install. Just make sure you don't get anything too long. As far as I know, with stock cables, you can run the 8" Road 6 Custom ape hangers (wasn't paying attention to the video, but I think those are the same bars, probably different height). To replace them just unscrew all the controls (just torx screws everywhere), slide it all off the bars, unbolt the riser clamp, take the old bars off, put the new ones on, then put the controls back on. Really hard to screw up.
Other good mods include removing the fork and fender reflectors (check the laws in your state before doing this). Just pry 'em off and use brake cleaner/wd40 to remove the goop; won't affect your paint.
Relocating the front turn signals to the forks is a decent mod. Relocating the speedo to the side of the bike cleans up the front, especially with apes. Can cost a bit though.
EDIT: Important addition. If you ever screw something on, make sure to put thread locker on it. Blue loctite works for this. Don't want mirrors and turn signals flying off.
You don't need to buy a FuelPak/Power Commander or anything if you just replace the exhaust. If you replace the air cleaner as well, then you'll want a tuner. Dyno tune is the best but it's expensive to have done. Just go with the X14ied system; easy as pie to install. The Fuelpak is an absolute whore to install (thing barely fits anywhere). I have one and I have it routed all over the place.
As for seats, Mustang pretty much makes the best seats according to most of the people I know. I've been riding stock for over a year and it's not that bad. A spring seat would be nice, too, which is what I'll be doing. If you want 2up you'll have to look at a seat with a nice pad for the passenger (as well as passenger pegs).
Some of the easier mods to do with a new bike are grips and bars. Grips can be a bit of a pain in the ass but it shouldn't take any more than an hour the first time. Any time after that will be 15-20 minutes.
Bars are relatively simple to install. Just make sure you don't get anything too long. As far as I know, with stock cables, you can run the 8" Road 6 Custom ape hangers (wasn't paying attention to the video, but I think those are the same bars, probably different height). To replace them just unscrew all the controls (just torx screws everywhere), slide it all off the bars, unbolt the riser clamp, take the old bars off, put the new ones on, then put the controls back on. Really hard to screw up.
Other good mods include removing the fork and fender reflectors (check the laws in your state before doing this). Just pry 'em off and use brake cleaner/wd40 to remove the goop; won't affect your paint.
Relocating the front turn signals to the forks is a decent mod. Relocating the speedo to the side of the bike cleans up the front, especially with apes. Can cost a bit though.
EDIT: Important addition. If you ever screw something on, make sure to put thread locker on it. Blue loctite works for this. Don't want mirrors and turn signals flying off.
Wow, thank you man.
So you are saying I can put on the V&H Short Shot exhaust pipes with quiet baffles without the need to install anything further?
And, are these the bars you are talking about: http://www.seegercycle.com/road-6-custom-bars.aspx
He's saying you can change the pipes if you install Xied's. They're voltage dividers that install between the O2 sensor and the ECM. They drop the sensor voltage so the bike runs at a lower AFR when it's in closed loop.
Gotcha. Sorry a newbie to riding...so the Xied's are an easy install even for a beginner rider?
hanoverphist
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make sure you visit some local shops and try those bars out, they sit like the old Zbars. not very comfy for some people. there are others that come back with a more natural angle, which helps for comfort on longer rides. i prefer rams head style bars or cruiser bars over the Z or drag bars. all about comfort tho. ive got an old Zbar sitting in a shed that spent a week on my old ride, it was replaced by rams head stock triumph bars i found in a junk yard. those are comfy.
Not quite. If you're just changing the exhaust you don't necessarily need a tuner or any sort. I'd get one anyway, but then again I'd at least go with the Screamin' Eagle Stage 1 air intake.
Those are the ones. Check here for the full selection.
Roland Sands makes them as well, fair bit nicer but much more expensive.
The R6C bars will work just as well. The welds are good.
Those are absolutely hideous. I don't understand why anyone would want something so angular on a bike with so many round shapes.
DVad3r
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Wow I've been away for a while and look at how much Harley people we have on here Congrats, welcome to the club!
Oh as for tuning, you can get any tuner and a map download and you will be good, no need for a dyno, those bikes are so popular that the maps they have for them are pretty solid. If you want you can also get an auto tuner with a PCV.
Congrats, welcome to the club! Oh as for tuning, you can get any tuner and a map download and you will be good, no need for a dyno, those bikes are so popular that the maps they have for them are pretty solid. If you want you can also get an auto tuner with a PCV.
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