finally an official HL2 stress test... test

[gururu]

techreport

techreport chips in.
1) they put the GT above the Pro.
2) they don't realize that dx8 is forced in the FX cards (they comment about not being able to enable water reflectivity).

3)they use a fast processor like firingsquad.

the only real disparity are the x800pro numbers. firingsquad has it blazing +20fps over what gamersdepot and techreport show. the fact that techreport couldn't figure out the dx8 connection leads me to believe that FS knows a little more and likely has more trustworthy numbers.

 

[Genx87]

Wow! I will take 60fps@1600X1200X32 4AA\8AF anyday of the week with my GT

 

[trevorlj]

I wonder why they didn't test 0xAF / 0xAA with the high end cards?

EDIT: Nevermind...the techreport review has it.

 

[gururu]

Originally posted by: trevorlj
I wonder why they didn't test 0xAF / 0xAA with the high end cards?

i think that'd be like testing 640x480...

 

[JBT]

Pretty good numbers by both camps. ATI's look esspecially good. I think we will see even highier performance gains with both NV and ATI in this once a driver set or two is out as well things are looking good for whatever card you choose this round.

 

[Corporate Thug]

all the new gen cards can run it @ 1600*1200 with MAX settings so i'm happy

 

[gururu]

another source engine test


AGAIN, another site has the x800pro 20fps (47 vs. 66) under the firingsquad score at 1600x1200 4xAA/8xAF

either firingsquad is doing something really right, or really wrong... most of the other scores are on the money.

 

[Rage187]

Moving down to the $399 level cards, the X800 Pro and the NVIDIA 6800 GT, the roles reverse. The NVIDIA 6800 GT is ahead on every single test including faster average frame rates and higher minimum frame rates. The differences between the cards never got the extremes that the 6800U and X800XT battle got to, but it is impressive to see NVIDIA's card competing at these levels. Also, as we have seen the 6800 GT cards overclocking very well to Ultra speeds and above, that makes it's performance all the more impressive. Gamers on a budget would do themselves a favor to give this card a bit more attention than they normally would.

excellent

 

[BFG10K]

Techreport has another set of benchmark. Overall the 6800 series is still doing quite well, unlike the pasting ATi receives in Doom III. Also I'm sure newer drivers from nVidia will improve performance in HL2.

 

[gururu]

VR-Zone

VR-zone puts x800pro over GT. They as well don't realize (like techreport) that the FX cards are running DX8 instead of DX9.

firingsquad, VR-Zone: X800pro beats GT
pc.ign, Gamersdepot, techreport, pc perspective: GT beats x800pro
rest of cards give fairly consistent values

and these aren't small margins. were talking 10fps either way. what the heck is going on?

 

[Tobyus]

How much do you want to bet that on Athlon 64 systems the 6800's perform worse than ATI's, but on P4 and Athlon XP systems the 6800 GT's beat the X800 Pro's and the 6800 Ultra's come closer to the X800 XT PE's? From what I am seeing that is the way it is working out.

 

[Childs]

Originally posted by: Tobyus
How much do you want to bet that on Athlon 64 systems the 6800's perform worse than ATI's, but on P4 and Athlon XP systems the 6800 GT's beat the X800 Pro's and the 6800 Ultra's come closer to the X800 XT PE's? From what I am seeing that is the way it is working out.

Agree, and I'm not sure it makes too much sense, because Nvidia actually makes a A64 chipset.

 

[gururu]

i didn't notice that before. this would be quite an interesting situation.... but I as well have no idea why this would be?

 

[Tobyus]

Yep, it doesn't make much sense. I am hoping that there is something that can be changed to improve the 6800's performance on Athlon 64's, because that is my setup. I have been able to get my performance improved through a few settings changes and driver updates. I was getting about 33 fps at 1600x1200 with 4xAA 8xAF at max settings including Water Reflects: All. After seeing the numbers on P4 systems like FluxCap's I thought there must be something wrong on my system, so I went and updated the via 4in1 hyperion drivers to see if that would help, and it gave me about 5 more fps. I then looked in my nvidia control panel and found that Antistropic Filtering optimizations were disabled, so I turned them on. That gave me another 4 fps, then I tried disabling vsync in the nvidia control panel and that gave me nearly 10 fps. So over all I am up to about 52 fps and nearly in line with FluxCap's system.

Maybe it's just a matter of adjusting the right settings, but I think that there may still be a slight performance drop on Athlon 64's.

 

[ginfest]

Originally posted by: gururu
VR-Zone

VR-zone puts x800pro over GT. They as well don't realize (like techreport) that the FX cards are running DX8 instead of DX9.

firingsquad, VR-Zone: X800pro beats GT
pc.ign, Gamersdepot, techreport, pc perspective: GT beats x800pro
rest of cards give fairly consistent values

and these aren't small margins. were talking 10fps either way. what the heck is going on?

FWIW:
5900's are running in "Mixed mode" which means mixed precision dx9 shaders, and possibly a few more dx8 shaders. Its only the low end FX series that Valve treat as full DX8.

Mike G

 

[stnicralisk]

looks fishy to me. In the High end graph 1024x7 4x/8x the 6800 runs 77.2 fps

Then in the Gen2 graphs with the SAME SETTINGS it runs 88.6 fps.

:/

 

[gururu]

X-Bit
x-bit finally chimes in with the MOST complete analysis (on A64) using both CS:Source demos and HL2 stress test.

they as well put GT over X800pro, and I believe it.

HL2 performance at highest settings(1600x, 4AA, 8x/16x AF):
x800xt ~20% faster than 6800U
6800U ~10% faster than 6800GT
6800GT ~15% faster than X800pro

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: BFG10K
Techreport has another set of benchmark. Overall the 6800 series is still doing quite well, unlike the pasting ATi receives in Doom III. Also I'm sure newer drivers from nVidia will improve performance in HL2.

I am sure nvidia have drivers ready for the HL2 release, hopefully they will contain the new optimization method which according to rumours is just like ATI's!

 

[MrPabulum]

Looks like my 9800XT will hold up just fine. 1280 x 1024 2AA/8AF should look and play...something, something. :beer:

 

[txxxx]

Originally posted by: gururu

Originally posted by: trevorlj
I wonder why they didn't test 0xAF / 0xAA with the high end cards?

i think that'd be like testing 640x480...

Hmmm to some of your performance freaks maybe so, but I noticed on VR-Zone that the 9600XT can run the stress test at 1024x768 around 65fps. With full precision DX9 shaders etc, without aa/af.

Since my new laptop will be based on the same chip and is only 10%~ slower, im a happy bunny.

 

[RadioHead84]

Originally posted by: FluxCap

Originally posted by: Alkaline5

Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
I don't think they used the same benchmark for the high end cards that they did for the midrange. The 6800 nu has different framerates.

XTPE MRSP = $500. XT MSRP = $450. AFAIK Nvidia does not have a $450 MSRP card.

ATI doesn't have a $450 retail card either. The X800 XT is only PCI-E and OEM currently.

ATI has opened up a bigger lead in HL2 than Nvidia had in D3 at the $500 pricepoint.

That's true, but the X800 Pro and the 6800GT are very close. In D3 they are terribly mismatched.

Yeah, I agree. For $400 it would be wise to get the GT, for $500 try your best to find an XT PE. I might continue my search for an XT PE in October when I trade up my eVGA.

if you trade it up..you will get a ultra..you cant trade up to a XT PE

 

[RadioHead84]

You guys need to stop mkaing me doubt my purchase of a EVGA 6800GT!

Its right here and i havent opened yet so i can still return it lol

 

[nippyjun]

Another benchmark from Gamespot:


Click here to see...




From a post on another forum:

"Wait...the 6800 cards actually get better FPS out of the in-game benchmark, but lose in the pre-packaged benchmark? Strange...I wonder which of those benchmarks will be closest to real HL2 performance (since it seems the video test is based more on shader effects than anything else). Though you know this will just add more fuel onto the fire: "for good benchmarks get an x800, for good gameplay get a 6800", etc "

 

[Gamingphreek]

Are those X-Bit reviews a bit screwed up. Everypage they change their opinion on the NV3x series of cards. One page is there is equal quality toi the 98xx series the next page is much lower detail. Umm whats going on. Also why is the 5950U beating the 6800NU in most of the CS tests?

-Kevin

 

[gururu]

Originally posted by: RadioHead84
You guys need to stop mkaing me doubt my purchase of a EVGA 6800GT!

Its right here and i havent opened yet so i can still return it lol

GT is THE board right now IMO. It seems to perform spectacularly in D3 and apparently in HL2 too.