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Originally posted by: xsilver
xp120 = best air cooled HSF available

and to the OP - make sure your mobo supports good overclocking feautres if you're going lga775 (and you would, not much reason to go back to s478)-- and remember the limits that anand found with the mobo/cpu's

and dont listen to the people that say its too hot -- an xp120 will make it sweet (eg. 4ghz+)
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Thanks xsilver; I was sure xp120 was a HSF but just wanted to make sure.

I agree with your advice to OP. Without a good HSF the "Prescott"s WILL heat a house but with a great HSF I'm sure they run cool enough.

Can you provide a link to a website with info or pricing on the xp120 ???

Thanks, 🙂
 
For a XP-120, pretty much any 120mm fan can be used on it. It is such an efficient hs, some people with winchesters and well-ventilated cases have been running it passively. Obviously it would be hard to do that with a P4, but for a fan I would reccomend a Nexus 120mm or a Panaflo L1A 120mm. While relatively pricey, both are well made and super quiet. Make sure the XP-120 will fit on your motherboard before you order parts. If not, the XP-90 is just as good, cooling within 1-3% of the XP-120. With an XP-90, I reccomend a Nexus 92mm or a Panaflo L1A 92mm. Good luck with your build. Hope this helps.
 
Good choice guys. It's true that AMD may be the best performer, but boy are intels STABLE! Man. I have a P4P800-e Deluxe. Not a single BSOD (except when I accidently hit the wrong multiplier and overclocked WAY too much), not a single system crash. Sure, AMDs run cooler, but with an XP120 you can change that.

Also, AMDs do better in games, Intels do better in content creation. That's true for sure. If you're not a gamer then you won't have that much of an advantage going with AMD, if you want reliability or stability. But then again, I am biased 😛. Eh, it's true that my intel is a room heater - that changed when I got my Zalman7700AlCu.

The stock cooling on my northwood (Northwoods run WAY cooler than Prescotts) drove me nuts so I got my 7700Alcu - so maybe the stock cooling on the 775 will kill ya.

Actually, I'd recommend the Zalman 7700-AlCu. Extremely quiet, much cheaper than the XP-120. If you're short by $10, then get the Zalman 7000AlCu, OR, if you want to have some fun, get a Zalman 7000AlCu LED 😛.

Hey fisher, I'd like to take the time to say thanks for providing an abundance of information - you've been a great help.

-The Pentium Guy
 
Last thing Fisher. I guess you could consider me a "Young Overclocker" (I'm 15), but I opted for the ASUS P4P800-e Deluxe. ASUSes are definately good overclockers 😛. In my mind, honestly, I don't see a great performance gain in overclocking unless you push past +500 mhz. Really, a 400mhz overclock doesn't do much at all. Just gives you bigger bragging rights and lower system lifetime.

Oh - there's 1 more thing I should add though. If you do go for AMD Athlon64, remember that Windows XP 64-Bit edition is coming out --> The performance difference will be amazing.

-TPG
 
Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy
Hey fisher, I'd like to take the time to say thanks for providing an abundance of information - you've been a great help.

-The Pentium Guy
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Thank YOU The Pentium Guy and all the other helpful people here at Anandtech. We all may have different system configs but we are all sort of in the same boat in a sense, aren't we???

Thanks for the "pat on the back" though !! 😀

 
Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy
Last thing Fisher. I guess you could consider me a "Young Overclocker" (I'm 15), but I opted for the ASUS P4P800-e Deluxe. ASUSes are definately good overclockers 😛...

Oh - there's 1 more thing I should add though. If you do go for AMD Athlon64, remember that Windows XP 64-Bit edition is coming out --> The performance difference will be amazing.

-TPG
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The Pentium Guy - Like I said in that POST I didn't mean to offend the (what I called) the Young Overclokers. I'm 46, plenty old enough to be your father, which means nothing really in the context of these forums except that the older and older we get the harder and harder it gets to "keep up" with you young and often brilliant young adults.

I appreciated your replies to my Posts and I'm always eager to learn whatever I can from whomever I can, regardless of their age. 🙂

And thanks for reminding the OP about the upcoming Windows x64 ! I've been going over to the Monarch forum (oops did I say that?) where a Microsoft spokesman has started a thread taking questions on the new 64 bit system and the agreement so far is that it won't really be geared for either the XP home OR XP PRO user (although some XP PRO users will get free upgrades ?!?!?!?). It will run some 32 bit apps but their will be a lot of typical MS software and hardware driver compatibility "issues" (I love how MS can't just call a "bug" a "bug" anymore, it's an "issue", lol). Anyway, there will also be a lack of applications and drivers available for a while so I don't see Windows x64 in my future for a long time if ever. The MS rep said they are targeting the Workstation/Server crowd.

😉
 
whoa, I learned so much in this thread, I have basic ideas of what I want, all I am waiting right now for is money.
Also, I hear there is not noticable gain in using DDR2 memory compare to DDR. Anyone cares to elaborate on this?
Thanks
 
Originally posted by: eurovw
whoa, I learned so much in this thread, I have basic ideas of what I want, all I am waiting right now for is money.
Also, I hear there is not noticable gain in using DDR2 memory compare to DDR. Anyone cares to elaborate on this?
Thanks
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I've read on the differences but I'm not going to touch that subject with a ten foot pole but I bet SOMEONE will, lol 🙂
 
They're roughly the same price, you might as well get DDR2 - for bragging rights anyways 😛. Just kidding - just go out and grab some 512MB corsair value select for like $40, so that's $80 for 1 gig. I'm sure they're DDR2 (right?)
 
Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy
They're roughly the same price, you might as well get DDR2 - for bragging rights anyways 😛. Just kidding - just go out and grab some 512MB corsair value select for like $40, so that's $80 for 1 gig. I'm sure they're DDR2 (right?)
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At NewEgg DDR2 400 is just slightly more expensive than DDR 400. The Corsair DDR 400 ValueSelect CAS 2.5 DDR400 1GB dual packs go for around $88 delivered and they've recenlty sold the Corsair DDR2 400 CAS 2.5 1GB Dual packs for around $111 or so !

Greg

 
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