Finally, a company with cajones

[Rogeee]

Qwest says "screw you" to the National Security Agency


Good for them, other phone companies supposedly gave up the records without even a word said.

I know,I know, P&N but I figured that this concerns everyone who lives in the U.S. of A and not everyone visits the insane asylum (P&N).

 

[drinkmorejava]

wth is cajones

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
wth is cajones

Testicles

Though the literal translation is "drawers."

The word has entered popular use in the United States as a slang term meaning to have a brave attitude. It is used in a similar to way to chutzpah. Anglicized/Americanized pronunciations include IPA: [k?'ho?ne?z] or the less accurate /k?'hu:n?z/. A very frequent misspelling is cajones, which actually means "drawers" (the piece of furniture) or "wooden box drums" (see cajon) in Spanish. Some people spell it the way they pronounce it, e.g., there are many thousands of Google results for "cahonies", "cahoonas", etc.

 

[jhayx7]

Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
wth is cajones

This:

<8

 

[Rogeee]

BALLS

 

[blurredvision]

I'm definitely in the minority, but I say Qwest needs to give up the records. Personally, I never understand why everyone yells about privacy with stuff like this. Like the government is taking time to look over everything to see how many times I've called friends and family. If my phone records help catch a a terrorist, then we ALL benefit.

I know this will catch a LOT of heat here (probably), but I don't care. And I'm not going to bother arguing for my stance. Say what you will.

 

[BatmanNate]

Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
wth is cajones

bollocks

 

[puffff]

Originally posted by: blurredvision
I'm definitely in the minority, but I say Qwest needs to give up the records. Personally, I never understand why everyone yells about privacy with stuff like this. Like the government is taking time to look over everything to see how many times I've called friends and family. If my phone records help catch a a terrorist, then we ALL benefit.

I know this will catch a LOT of heat here (probably), but I don't care. And I'm not going to bother arguing for my stance. Say what you will.

i saw some poll on CNBC today, apparently the majority agree with you. some 60% said they had no problems with what the NSA was doing.

 

[funboy6942]

Originally posted by: blurredvision
I'm definitely in the minority, but I say Qwest needs to give up the records. Personally, I never understand why everyone yells about privacy with stuff like this. Like the government is taking time to look over everything to see how many times I've called friends and family. If my phone records help catch a a terrorist, then we ALL benefit.

I know this will catch a LOT of heat here (probably), but I don't care. And I'm not going to bother arguing for my stance. Say what you will.

And with this kind of attitude is the reason were loosing more and more of our freedoms.

 

[TheTony]

Interesting to see Qwest taking a stand.

Unfortunately, for me, whatever goodwill they earn from this is negated by the fact that, on the whole, their service is lacking.

 

[BatmanNate]

Originally posted by: blurredvision
I'm definitely in the minority, but I say Qwest needs to give up the records. Personally, I never understand why everyone yells about privacy with stuff like this. Like the government is taking time to look over everything to see how many times I've called friends and family. If my phone records help catch a a terrorist, then we ALL benefit.

I know this will catch a LOT of heat here (probably), but I don't care. And I'm not going to bother arguing for my stance. Say what you will.

Where would you draw the line, then? Would it be OK for you to have government cameras in your bedroom as long as you obeyed the law? What if the law changes?

 

[cyclohexane]

Originally posted by: puffff

Originally posted by: blurredvision
I'm definitely in the minority, but I say Qwest needs to give up the records. Personally, I never understand why everyone yells about privacy with stuff like this. Like the government is taking time to look over everything to see how many times I've called friends and family. If my phone records help catch a a terrorist, then we ALL benefit.

I know this will catch a LOT of heat here (probably), but I don't care. And I'm not going to bother arguing for my stance. Say what you will.

i saw some poll on CNBC today, apparently the majority agree with you. some 60% said they had no problems with what the NSA was doing.

the more you give them, the more they want. Pretty soon, they'll have hidden cameras in all public places

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
wth is cajones

He means "cojones".

 

[TheTony]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
wth is cajones

He means "cojones".

Huevos. "Mahbles". Testicular fortitude.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: TheTony

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
wth is cajones

He means "cojones".

Huevos. "Mahbles". Testicular fortitude.

BALLS

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: cyclohexane

Originally posted by: puffff

Originally posted by: blurredvision
I'm definitely in the minority, but I say Qwest needs to give up the records. Personally, I never understand why everyone yells about privacy with stuff like this. Like the government is taking time to look over everything to see how many times I've called friends and family. If my phone records help catch a a terrorist, then we ALL benefit.

I know this will catch a LOT of heat here (probably), but I don't care. And I'm not going to bother arguing for my stance. Say what you will.

i saw some poll on CNBC today, apparently the majority agree with you. some 60% said they had no problems with what the NSA was doing.

the more you give them, the more they want. Pretty soon, they'll have hidden cameras in all public places

DHS has been handing money out like crazy lately for that express purpose.

 

[boomerang]

Originally posted by: cyclohexane

Originally posted by: puffff

Originally posted by: blurredvision
I'm definitely in the minority, but I say Qwest needs to give up the records. Personally, I never understand why everyone yells about privacy with stuff like this. Like the government is taking time to look over everything to see how many times I've called friends and family. If my phone records help catch a a terrorist, then we ALL benefit.

I know this will catch a LOT of heat here (probably), but I don't care. And I'm not going to bother arguing for my stance. Say what you will.

i saw some poll on CNBC today, apparently the majority agree with you. some 60% said they had no problems with what the NSA was doing.

the more you give them, the more they want. Pretty soon, they'll have hidden cameras in all public places

Except places that members of Congress frequent. Different rules for them of course.

 

[Jzero]

I'd switch to Quest if they offered service in my area.

 

[yobarman]

Haha i've done some work for qwest.

 

[imported_sling]

Originally posted by: funboy42

Originally posted by: blurredvision
I'm definitely in the minority, but I say Qwest needs to give up the records. Personally, I never understand why everyone yells about privacy with stuff like this. Like the government is taking time to look over everything to see how many times I've called friends and family. If my phone records help catch a a terrorist, then we ALL benefit.

I know this will catch a LOT of heat here (probably), but I don't care. And I'm not going to bother arguing for my stance. Say what you will.

And with this kind of attitude is the reason were loosing more and more of our freedoms.

We're loosing freedoms? I don't feel like I've lost any freedoms at all. Sure, the NSA having my phone records is a little unsettling at first, but when you think about it it really isn't a huge deal for them to know how many times my wife calls me at work and such.

Sure....someone lost the freedom to sell decorative knives at the airport. But that's a little obvious. I just want to know which freedoms we've lost....that's all.

 

[TySnyder]

Originally posted by: blurredvision
I'm definitely in the minority, but I say Qwest needs to give up the records. Personally, I never understand why everyone yells about privacy with stuff like this. Like the government is taking time to look over everything to see how many times I've called friends and family. If my phone records help catch a a terrorist, then we ALL benefit.

I know this will catch a LOT of heat here (probably), but I don't care. And I'm not going to bother arguing for my stance. Say what you will.

And how would your phone records help catch a terrorist?

 

[SampSon]

Heard about this for hours on my talk radio stations.

Funny how all of the senators and congressmen that are opposed to the NSA's and other agencies information gathering were the ones who supported the bill approving this type of activity during the Clinton administration. Hypocrites.

I don't see why people are so up in arms about activities that have been happening since the NSA was founded in the late 60s. People complain about their privacy being violated, but go out and use shoppers bonus cards, automatic toll paying devices on their cars, use callphones/cars with GPS devices, complete all their transactions with plastic instead of cash, give their personal information out for sweepstakes drawings, join social networks like myspace, and allow their personal information to be published in phone books. The reality is that the public truly isn't concerned about the privacy of their information in the least, their actions speak MUCH louder than words. Most of the information people claim to be so worried about is largely public record or readily available for a small price. The public is being such a drama queen about this.

What's really funny is that Qwest won't give up information to government agencies, but they will sell it to other companies for a profit. Very commedable... :roll:

 

[TySnyder]

Originally posted by: sling

Originally posted by: funboy42

Originally posted by: blurredvision
I'm definitely in the minority, but I say Qwest needs to give up the records. Personally, I never understand why everyone yells about privacy with stuff like this. Like the government is taking time to look over everything to see how many times I've called friends and family. If my phone records help catch a a terrorist, then we ALL benefit.

I know this will catch a LOT of heat here (probably), but I don't care. And I'm not going to bother arguing for my stance. Say what you will.

And with this kind of attitude is the reason were loosing more and more of our freedoms.

We're loosing freedoms? I don't feel like I've lost any freedoms at all. Sure, the NSA having my phone records is a little unsettling at first, but when you think about it it really isn't a huge deal for them to know how many times my wife calls me at work and such.

Sure....someone lost the freedom to sell decorative knives at the airport. But that's a little obvious. I just want to know which freedoms we've lost....that's all.

Are you phone records public information?...No, it's private.

You are losing a small part of your privacy which isn't exactly freedom, but it is an infringment upon privacy. As your privacy declines your freedom is soon to follow.

 

[aircooled]

what about VOIP companies, Vonage, etc...?

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: TySnyder

Originally posted by: sling

Originally posted by: funboy42

Originally posted by: blurredvision
I'm definitely in the minority, but I say Qwest needs to give up the records. Personally, I never understand why everyone yells about privacy with stuff like this. Like the government is taking time to look over everything to see how many times I've called friends and family. If my phone records help catch a a terrorist, then we ALL benefit.

I know this will catch a LOT of heat here (probably), but I don't care. And I'm not going to bother arguing for my stance. Say what you will.

And with this kind of attitude is the reason were loosing more and more of our freedoms.

We're loosing freedoms? I don't feel like I've lost any freedoms at all. Sure, the NSA having my phone records is a little unsettling at first, but when you think about it it really isn't a huge deal for them to know how many times my wife calls me at work and such.

Sure....someone lost the freedom to sell decorative knives at the airport. But that's a little obvious. I just want to know which freedoms we've lost....that's all.

Are you phone records public information?...No, it's private.

You are losing a small part of your privacy which isn't exactly freedom, but it is an infringment upon privacy. As your privacy declines your freedom is soon to follow.

Also, with the lack of oversight from another branch of government, who's to decide what's right and wrong? Maybe the NSA will decide one day that phonecalls to people of affiliated with one political party is wrong and should be stopped? Freedoms and privacies don't disappear all at once, they go piece by piece until you realize that it is too late.