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Finalizing My First Build

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Finns14

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DVDR: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16827152047
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822148040
MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813136160
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820145439
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819103535
Vid:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814143037

Will this run most new games well? This is my first build will I be able to over clock? I hear good things about the 3000+ is it worth the $10 extra dollars for the 3200+? What typer of PSU would I need? Is that the right type of RAM with the CPU I don't think I would need DDR 400 because even with OCing I would never get the HTT up to 200 so this might be an area where I could save myself a little money but please let me know. Thanks!
 
Iv3 got pretty much the same system..I got an evga 7800gt and a evga MB and it runs BF2, HL2 ,Painkiller, and FarCry on high settings with no problems. yea its worth it for the 3200 the multiplier is at 10x instead of 9x.
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Depends on the kind of games your looking to run really, and at what kind of resolution settings and game-specific graphics settings as well...

If you were to upgrade anything? I would say spend another 30 bucks and get the DFI Ultra-D mobo ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813136152 )

And possibly upgrade your ram...I don't hear the best things about the valueram..but thats up to you.. this is what i'm looking at: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820227210

Good luck!

-Gyn
 
:thumbsup: that will be a good gaming rig, and a good OCer. if you want to do major OCing, you might want to look into an aftermarket cooler, such as an XP-120 or a Big Typhoon. For a PSU, look to Antec, Seasonic, Sparkle, Fotron, OCZ...look for something with more than 400W and more than 20Amps on the 12v rail and you should be good.
 
Sorry can't spend 225 on ram and is it worth the extra $30 for the MOBO? Thanks for the PSU advice and if anyone had great success with a specific PSU that fit my criteria please post.
 
It's almost perfect, but I'd make two changes, if I were you....

1) Get PC3200 RAM. Really, there's no reason to get PC2700. Here's a pair of 512MB DIMMs for less than $82.
2) I'm uncomfortable with that DFI board. I keep hearing horror stories about it not accepting certain PSUs and DIMMs. Try the Epox EP-9NPAJ, instead. It's almost the same price, and it's a fantastic overclocker.
 
Originally posted by: hurtstotalktoyou
It's almost perfect, but I'd make two changes, if I were you....

1) Get PC3200 RAM. Really, there's no reason to get PC2700. Here's a pair of 512MB DIMMs for less than $82.
2) I'm uncomfortable with that DFI board. I keep hearing horror stories about it not accepting certain PSUs and DIMMs. Try the Epox EP-9NPAJ, instead. It's almost the same price, and it's a fantastic overclocker.
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Great find on that RAM also does newegg sell the MOBO you mention? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145440 How does that ram look got a ton of great reviews but some mentioned it doesn't OC well is that a concern?
 
Originally posted by: Finns14
This mobo is easy for for my first build?
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Download the manual from their site. If it's not good enough for you, check out the Asus motherboard manuals. They're known for being consumer friendly.
 
Originally posted by: Finns14
Originally posted by: hurtstotalktoyou
It's almost perfect, but I'd make two changes, if I were you....

1) Get PC3200 RAM. Really, there's no reason to get PC2700. Here's a pair of 512MB DIMMs for less than $82.
2) I'm uncomfortable with that DFI board. I keep hearing horror stories about it not accepting certain PSUs and DIMMs. Try the Epox EP-9NPAJ, instead. It's almost the same price, and it's a fantastic overclocker.
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Great find on that RAM also does newegg sell the MOBO you mention? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145440 How does that ram look got a ton of great reviews but some mentioned it doesn't OC well is that a concern?
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I'm not actually clear on whether or not RAM can hinder a CPU overclock. I mean, I have some stinking generic garbage, but I still managed a 50% (1.6 GHz to 2.4 GHz) overclock with Prime95 stability. I even undertimed the memory itself.

If you're asking if the RAM can go beyond its standard 200 MHz (virtual 400 MHz) speed, then, probably not--at least, not more than 5-10% or so. But I highly doubt the RAM will hold back your CPU.

The Corsair ValueSelect you picked out is pretty standard stuff, not high-performance by any means, but definitely reliable. Go for it.

As for the Epox board, Newegg has it for $93 shipped. Some prefer DFI, but I'm just concerned about some of the negative reviews. Apparently it needs some kind of special PSU--I'm not sure if that's true, but I'd check it out before buying it. Also, I keep hearing things about memory compatibility problems--though, again, I'm not sure if it is truth or just rumor. Or you could just go with the Epox board, which is a sure bet for fantastic overclocking.
 
Originally posted by: Finns14
Ok what does everyone think of this Case/PSU combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811156164

I'm guessing many will say that the PSU is bad but for $20 I can afford to sell the PSU and whatever I get for it put towards a better PSU
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That's a tough price to beat.

You're right that many will insist you get a name-brand PSU, but I personally don't see the harm in getting something generic like you have picked out. Except for the Antec you see in my sig (which I was more or less forced into getting), all I've ever used in my own builds or my family's have been generics, and I've never had one die. Granted, that's a pretty small sample from which to draw any conclusion, but I have seen no solid evidence other than suspicious testimonials that generics are significantly less reliable than name-brand units.

In other words, it looks fine to me.
 
I would personally suggest the x2 processor - I have my 3800 overclocked to 2.5 ghz with no problems and no special cooling really.

For the video card, the EVGA e-GeForce 7800 GT CO Edition apparently performs just as good as the GTX and will cost you the price of the GT you are looking at. I could be wrong. Heres the review.

http://www.firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=8720

I would also suggest 2 gigs of ram.

Here are my specs
Athlon 64 X2 3800 w/ THERMALRIGHT XP-120 Heatsink
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) PC4000
DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D
Geforce 7800GTX 256MB 256-bit
Antec Smart Power 2.0 500w PSU
Lian-Li V1100b
 
I've you're overclocking anyways, I really wouldn't bother spending any extra cash on the 3200+. The 3000+ will clock just as high, and having one extra multiplier setting really doesn't do anything special.

The 3800+ X2 is something to consider, although it might not overclock as well (mine has trouble pushing 2.4 GHz, even with extra voltage), and it's not as easy to set up in terms of software (i.e. you have to install a CPU driver from AMD, and sometimes a Win XP hotfix before it will work as a dual-core CPU), so it might not be a good idea if you're a beginner.

I second the MSI recommendation, and I also recommend not getting a "value" mainboard from any manufacturer (your original selection kind of qualifies as a budget solution relative to the other products DFI offers). The mainboard is the backbone of your entire system, and it pays to invest in a quality one, like the already mentioned DFI Ultra, or the Epox, or an MSI Neo4 Platinum. None of them should be more than an extra $30.
 
Dont forget.. hopefully, games etc will use the dual core. So its also going to cover you for the future as well. Its worth it on so many levels.
 
Originally posted by: Finns14
So I should save myself the $10 and get the 3000+ instead of the 3200+ also what does everyone think of the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145440

Sadly the MSI Neo4 Platinum is out of stock I will look into the other boards you meantioned

How about this MOBO http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136163

is the the one other have been mentioning?
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No spend the extra $10 and get the one with the higher multiplier. While the Limit should be about the same it will mean having to put lesss strain and easier over clocking to get to that same limit. The time of just pumping up the bus from 66MHz to 100 and going 300 to 450 is over now You have to worry about all kinds of stuff Like bus locks Memory speed HT speed base bus speed voltages, the less of this or the lower you can keep these when over clocking the better.
 
Originally posted by: Finns14
If its all the same I will probably just go with the DFI and save myself the $10
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I have found that the DFIs of new seem to be the ABITs of old. Slower (just slightly) harder to setup and almost unstable at defualt level but seem to just jump to life during overclocking become stable as a rock at speeds other boards couldn't even manage to boot at. the Epox doesn't have quite the upper range but seem really stable, less picky, and still a great overclocker second only to DFI and some Asus boards.
 
Alright I guess I will go with the EPOX then because I want something pretty stable out of the box and while I will be over clocking this is going to be my first build so I won't go crazy
 
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