Final x19xx thread

[Jschmuck2]

So you see here that the 1950 outclocks the xtx (what I would be buying is an XT that I would then OC to XTX speeds).

I can get the x1950xt 256mb for 160 with that Thermalright cooler on it or for $150 a stock x1900xt 512mb that I could OC to XTX speeds.

Yikes?

 

[Jschmuck2]

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[Lord Banshee]

So what is your question? Do you have a Question?

1900XTX ~= 1950XT

1950XT < X1950XTX

 

[Jschmuck2]

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
So you see here that the 1950 outclocks the xtx (what I would be buying is an XT that I would then OC to XTX speeds).

I can get the x1950xt 256mb for 160 with that Thermalright cooler on it or for $150 a stock x1900xt 512mb that I could OC to XTX speeds.

Yikes?

What do you do? What...do...you...do?

 

[Laminator]

What do you play? What kind of monitor do you have? We need more information!

 

[Jschmuck2]

It's in my sig I tells you! In my sig! I play nearly everything - every new game that comes out, I want a piece of. I'd like a very powerful DX9 card because I don't plan on upgrading to Vista until my next build which will be sometime in January.

 

[n7]

Get the X1900XTX.

The extra vRAM is a good thing, since lots of games now already use that much.

 

[Laminator]

I have a conflict on interest in this thread so I won't make a specific recommendation. I'll just say that both cards will serve you well since...

1. Performance is nearly identical with the exception of extreme circumstances (ultra-high resolutions), and
2. You are going to dump this card and get G80/G92/R700/whatever in January.

 

[CP5670]

Originally posted by: n7
Get the X1900XTX.

The extra vRAM is a good thing, since lots of games now already use that much.

This is especially true on the X1 series cards, which seem to benefit from the added memory more than most other cards. Some tests by BeHardware a while ago showed the extra memory to result in a performance improvement of anywhere between 5-30%, depending on the game.

 

[Jschmuck2]

Originally posted by: n7
Get the X1900XTX.

The extra vRAM is a good thing, since lots of games now already use that much.

Well, it would be an XT which I would then overclock to XTX speeds - pretty much the same thing, right?

 

[Laminator]

X1900 XT = 625MHz/1450MHz
X1900 XTX = 650MHz/1500MHz

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: Laminator
X1900 XT = 625MHz/1450MHz
X1900 XTX = 650MHz/1500MHz

I've been running my XT at XTX speeds since I bought it at launch, still servers me pretty well.

It's starting to choke on newer games though now that I'm on a 24"cher.

 

[Munky]

Get the 512mb 1900xt. Most of those will OC to xtx core speeds without any additional mods, and the extra memory will usually give you a bigger improvement than the higher memory clocks on the 1950xt.

 

[RussianSensation]

512mb card FTW!

 

[Laminator]

What if he can't OC the X1900 XT 512MB? I am asking this because he might be buying the card from me and I know that the card is incapable of hitting X1900 XTX speeds at stock volts. I used ATI Overdrive on the card and all I got was a measly 9MHz on the memory. Is it still worth it then?

I know you can increase the voltages using ATITool but I've never tried it in fear of damaging the card. Does anyone know how effective this is?

 

[Jschmuck2]

Give ATI Tool a shot.

 

[Munky]

Increasing voltage would certainly help the OC of the gpu core, but you'd have to either buy an aftermarket cooler like an HR-03 (that's what I'm using), or crank the stock fan to 100% and deal with the noise. Anyway, the core clocks make a much bigger difference in performance than memory clocks, so if you can't OC the memory, it's not a deal breaker, even at stock clocks the card has enough power to put all 512mb to good use, and some games like Stalker or Oblivion w/texture mods will use up all that memory even at moderate resolutions like 1280x1024.

 

[Laminator]

Thanks; the temperatures of the card are fine (I'm using a VF900-Cu on it) so I think that won't be a limiting factor. At stock settings, my idle temperature is in the low 40's and my load temperature is from 60 to 75 degrees, depending on what I am playing. I will try increasing the GPU voltage through ATITool; hopefully the chip will crash and restart before any permanent damage is done to it.

I have used an X1900 Crossfire Edition card with the stock cooler and even with the fan at 100%, the temperatures were terrible - above 90 degrees in Need for Speed: Carbon.

 

[Jschmuck2]

Here's an interesting read on the different 1900 series cards Text

 

[Laminator]

Thanks for that link! It's great to see a review that compares the X1900 XT with the X1900 XT 256MB.

 

[bryanW1995]

I own an x1950xt and an x1900 xfire master card (effectively same as x1900xtx 512). The x1900 is a MUCH better card imho.