Final Ohio Results

[Rob9874]

Precincts reporting: 11477 of 11477

George W. Bush (i) Rep 2,794,346 - 51 percent
John F. Kerry Dem 2,658,125 - 49 percent

Difference of 136,221

 

[MidasKnight]

Now they need to know how many PB's there are total. If less than the margin that Bush has, then no counting of those said ballots. But, if they exceed that amount then the verifying and counting of qualified PB's can take 11 days.

 

[MidasKnight]

opps

 

[bozack]

man that is close....

 

[joshw10]

If theres not a million ballots left to be counted, forget it.

 

[Valvoline6]

That is NOT close. It is 130,000 VOTES. It's not 537. Bush has won the popular vote by 3.6 MILLION votes, as well as Nevada, New Mexico and Iowa. It's over. I can not believe the democratic party hasn't told Kerry to conceed for the future of the party. They look like asses. There's something to be said for losing graciously.

Originally posted by: bozack
man that is close....

 

[Rob9874]

Originally posted by: MidasKnight
Now they need to know how many PB's there are total. If less than the margin that Bush has, then no counting of those said ballots. But, if they exceed that amount then the verifying and counting of qualified PB's can take 11 days.

I hope Kerry is advised to conceed. I think there's something like 150,000 to 200,000 PBs. Unless Kerry wins 70% of them (and I don't see how he could), it's not worth it.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: MidasKnight
Now they need to know how many PB's there are total. If less than the margin that Bush has, then no counting of those said ballots. But, if they exceed that amount then the verifying and counting of qualified PB's can take 11 days.

This sounds just like the same crap that we heard for 2 weeks during the 'hanging chad' debacle. It's the dangling carrot argument. See, I can come up with neat little phrases in reference to an election too!

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: Rob9874

Originally posted by: MidasKnight
Now they need to know how many PB's there are total. If less than the margin that Bush has, then no counting of those said ballots. But, if they exceed that amount then the verifying and counting of qualified PB's can take 11 days.

I hope Kerry is advised to conceed. I think there's something like 150,000 to 200,000 PBs. Unless Kerry wins 70% of them (and I don't see how he could), it's not worth it.

I don't think it will matter one bit if Kerry conceed because the ballots will still need to be counted and Both parties will still need to fight over each one just in case.

 

[Johnnie]

source?

 

[Fingolfin269]

CNN has a by state breakdown if you want to look there.

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: Spencer278

Originally posted by: Rob9874

Originally posted by: MidasKnight
Now they need to know how many PB's there are total. If less than the margin that Bush has, then no counting of those said ballots. But, if they exceed that amount then the verifying and counting of qualified PB's can take 11 days.

I hope Kerry is advised to conceed. I think there's something like 150,000 to 200,000 PBs. Unless Kerry wins 70% of them (and I don't see how he could), it's not worth it.

I don't think it will matter one bit if Kerry conceed because the ballots will still need to be counted and Both parties will still need to fight over each one just in case.

provisional ballots are not like absentee ballots. they can scrutinze and toss out each one.

remember...there were a lot of dems in this state trying to register under the name of Marry Poppins and Mickey Mouse.

Oh and the whole vote and get crack thing

 

[smashp]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Originally posted by: Spencer278

Originally posted by: Rob9874

Originally posted by: MidasKnight
Now they need to know how many PB's there are total. If less than the margin that Bush has, then no counting of those said ballots. But, if they exceed that amount then the verifying and counting of qualified PB's can take 11 days.

I hope Kerry is advised to conceed. I think there's something like 150,000 to 200,000 PBs. Unless Kerry wins 70% of them (and I don't see how he could), it's not worth it.

I don't think it will matter one bit if Kerry conceed because the ballots will still need to be counted and Both parties will still need to fight over each one just in case.

provisional ballots are not like absentee ballots. they can scrutinze and toss out each one.

remember...there were a lot of dems in this state trying to register under the name of Marry Poppins and Mickey Mouse.

Oh and the whole vote and get crack thing

Lets Not forget the people that were paid for Signitures for the Issue one petition here in ohio and had a ton of fraudulant Sigs........


And Someone Who voted in my wifes name via Absentee. see HERE

She was forced to vote via provisional ballot. Now dont be an A$$ and let them Count the votes. I will admit Bush will win. being a Kerry voter, That doesnt even make me angry, WHY? becasue Im angry as hell that Someone Took Her vote, requardless of who the vote was for. It took me over a year to convince her how important it is to vote. It was her first time and got all F@cked up. Last night She was very pesimistic, This mourning I was able to say "See, I told you they will count your Vote"



I will also say at 6pm last night there was a longer line for provisional ballots at the board of election than there were for the district voters in the other room.

 

[Rob9874]

Originally posted by: Johnnie
source?

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=index&cid=1252

 

[Darkhawk28]

First off, Kerry's not trying to be a bad guy about this.... I think he knows he lost, but he's doing what he's doing for the following reasons....

1) He doesn't want any tin-foil hat scenarios or any maybe's, what-if's or whatnot. Count all the votes and confirm the loss once and for all.

2) Hell, miracles could happen, right?

3) There have been a ton of Kerry volunteers around the country and he does not want to show them he's fighting for them to the bitter end.

 

[conjur]

I believe Kerry will concede today (BTW, note the CORRECT SPELLING of that word.)

The talk seems to be he will concede today.

 

[Rob9874]

Originally posted by: conjur
I believe Kerry will concede today (BTW, note the CORRECT SPELLING of that word.)

If you research other threads of mine, you will see that I know how to spell concede. Surely you can forgive a typo of switching 2 letters. I also spell teh and ofr and ot. Has it gotten so bad, you've resorted to spelling police, and use CAPS about it?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Rob9874

Originally posted by: conjur
I believe Kerry will concede today (BTW, note the CORRECT SPELLING of that word.)

If you research other threads of mine, you will see that I know how to spell concede. Surely you can forgive a typo of switching 2 letters. I also spell teh and ofr and ot. Has it gotten so bad, you've resorted to spelling police, and use CAPS about it?

Oh, get over yourself. That was directed at everyone, not you directly.

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

My feeling is that I would like to see an actual count of the remaining ballots, provisional and absentee, in Ohio, or any other state that may flip(flop) in either direction.

I don't think Kerry has much of a chance at Ohio, but I think until we have counted and processed all the votes (or at least enough to mathematically rule one way or the other) then its irresponsible to declare victory or defeat.

 

[Valvoline6]

We need count all of those ballots in Pennsylvania too. The margin there is much closer than Ohio. Lets drag the obvious out.

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
My feeling is that I would like to see an actual count of the remaining ballots, provisional and absentee, in Ohio, or any other state that may flip(flop) in either direction.

I don't think Kerry has much of a chance at Ohio, but I think until we have counted and processed all the votes (or at least enough to mathematically rule one way or the other) then its irresponsible to declare victory or defeat.

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

Originally posted by: Valvoline6
We need count all of those ballots in Pennsylvania too. The margin there is much closer than Ohio. Lets drag the obvious out.

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
My feeling is that I would like to see an actual count of the remaining ballots, provisional and absentee, in Ohio, or any other state that may flip(flop) in either direction.

I don't think Kerry has much of a chance at Ohio, but I think until we have counted and processed all the votes (or at least enough to mathematically rule one way or the other) then its irresponsible to declare victory or defeat.

No need to drag things out once a winner is mathematically determined.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude

Originally posted by: Valvoline6
We need count all of those ballots in Pennsylvania too. The margin there is much closer than Ohio. Lets drag the obvious out.

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
My feeling is that I would like to see an actual count of the remaining ballots, provisional and absentee, in Ohio, or any other state that may flip(flop) in either direction.

I don't think Kerry has much of a chance at Ohio, but I think until we have counted and processed all the votes (or at least enough to mathematically rule one way or the other) then its irresponsible to declare victory or defeat.

No need to drag things out once a winner is mathematically determined.

How many actual provisional and overseas ballots etc are there in PA?

 

[piasabird]

I see nothing wrong with Kerry waiting till the next day. Give hime a chance for the reality to set in. At least give him a day or two to do the right thing. Bush didnt seem to be in a hurry.

 

[assemblage]

Bush Wins! Bush Wins!

 

[jpeyton]

Kerry should wait 10 days for the provisionals to be counted. Just for the hell of it.