Final Nintendo DS design revealed

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: xcript

Originally posted by: mrCide
horrible. garbage. i'll take the PSP, thanks.

Same here. The PSP will destroy the DS.

They're both handhelds but they have different markets. That's the second most stupidest thing I've seen in this thread.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: xboxist

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: xboxist
Before this misinformation gets out of line, please be aware that the DS can only play DS and Game Boy Advance games. It cannot play original Game Boy or Game Boy Color games.

I will probably get this too, but I will need to see some games first.

thats good enough

who still play original gb games anyways??

Well I agree. It's just that it was mentioned a few times previously in this thread about how the DS can play every Game Boy game ever. Just wanted to correct that in case someone was all pumped to buy it because they thought they could play their original Tetris on it, or something.

Whoops, my mistake. I misread the specs. Sorry, I'll edit my post.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: ed21x
oh it definitely is a blemish... but my point is, Nintendo does everything possible to support their system regardless of how horribly it sold. The only reason they gave up on the VirtuaBoy is because they sold less like 500 units worldwide

It was called Virtual Boy and they made 22 games over its lifetime. Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but they sold significantly more than 500 units.

 

[ed21x]

The thing is, Nintendo is one of those weird companies that rely on gameplay to sell their systems. To people who've never played their games before but have only looked at pictures of them, many of the games look like crap. However, an hour of Super Monkey Balls, Super Smash Brothers, or Mariokart Double Dash, and you will definitely see why nintendo has such a loyal fanbase despite many of the first party games lacking in the graphic department. Heck, thats pretty much why gameboy outlasted everything else.

Regarding the PSP vs GDS debate, we know that even if the dual screen thing turns out to just be a gimmick, the GDS is still plenty capable a gaming machine without the use of the second screen. As I recall, the system is stated by nintendo to be between the power of the n64 and Gamecube, which puts it only slightly weaker than the PSP. Also remember that we're talking about a screen resolution of around 160x240... c'mon... how much processing power can you possibly need to fill only 40,000 pixels? If anything, the dual ASM processors should be more than adequate for the DS.

It's my assumption that Nintendo DS will probably never use the stylus, touch sensitive features, wifi in any significant game, but rather, they are trying to stress the other PDA-like functions the DS will be using as a selling point. I mean, paying $200 for a gaming machine that has many of the features your iPaq is capable of doing is a smoking good deal.

 

[xcript]

Originally posted by: ed21x

Originally posted by: xcript

Originally posted by: mrCide
horrible. garbage. i'll take the PSP, thanks.

Same here. The PSP will destroy the DS.

heh, talk about blatant fanboyism about two unreleased consoles =)

Heh, no.

I recently watched the 500MB Sony's PSP Unveiled video and it impressed me - the DS has yet to do so. And since I can't see into the future, I'm forming an opinion based on the information I have right now (it could change).

Besides, I'm thinking in terms of which will be the more interesting device as far as I'm concerned - I don't give a crap who sells the most units.

Dreamcast forever!

 

[xcript]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: xcript

Originally posted by: mrCide
horrible. garbage. i'll take the PSP, thanks.

Same here. The PSP will destroy the DS.

They're both handhelds but they have different markets. That's the second most stupidest thing I've seen in this thread.

:roll:

 

[ed21x]

Originally posted by: KnightBreed

Originally posted by: ed21x
oh it definitely is a blemish... but my point is, Nintendo does everything possible to support their system regardless of how horribly it sold. The only reason they gave up on the VirtuaBoy is because they sold less like 500 units worldwide

It was called Virtual Boy and they made 22 games over its lifetime. Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but they sold significantly more than 500 units.

yeah, that was sarcasm =P i was just pulling a random really low number out of my arse

 

[DarkKnight]

Originally posted by: ed21x

Originally posted by: BamBam215

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: BamBam215

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: BamBam215
psp = ps2 on the go. batterly life is like 10hrs or so on games and 2 hrs on movies so that's not a real good argument.
ds = trying to be innovative. can really backfire because nintendo hasn't had much success with innovation. they should have just made a more powerful gameboy.

I thought it claimed 3hrs gaming...

nothing is finalized yet but from this quote

""So, what is the battery life going to be on PlayStation Portable? It will be on par with traditional handheld systems, or approximately 10 hours. It is comparable to an ATC [ATRAC] portable music player, or approximately 8 hours. Or, it will be comparable to portable DVD players, which, in many cases, is about 2 and a half hours.
--Kaz Hirai, May 11, 2004"

many predicts it to be about 10 hrs for games, 8 hrs for mp3s, and 2.5hrs for movies.

Hmm... if they can pull that off, PSP has a fighting chance. 10 hrs of PS2 level processing power on Lithium-ion batteries is going to be tough to do.

yeah. they either have to incorporate some new battery technology or they are exaggerating on it's power. most likely it'll be a stripped down version of the ps2 (less vector units).

If you own any DAP, you'd know that the largest battery sucker is the LCD screen, and of course gaming takes alot more processing than movies... the correct order would be:

mp3 10hrs, 2.5 hours movies, and ~2 hours gaming. This is of course assuming that the unit ships with the best battery to match any movie-capable Digital Audio Player like an Archos or iRiver PMP 140

mp3 10hrs, 2.5 hrs movies and 2 hrs gaming makes the most sense. having the most battery power for games doesnt make sense since it is the most demanding application. And if PSP only has 2-3 hr battery life, it will fail horribly like the gamegear no matter how good the games look.

Also, we may not realize the usefullness of dual screens because no game system has come out with dual screens. I'm sure the people at nintendo are figuring out some cool stuff u can do with dual screen.

 

[isekii]

It said 140GBP didn't it ? or was it $150 ?

That's like 300 USD

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: xcript

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: xcript

Originally posted by: mrCide
horrible. garbage. i'll take the PSP, thanks.

Same here. The PSP will destroy the DS.

They're both handhelds but they have different markets. That's the second most stupidest thing I've seen in this thread.

:roll:

Wow, an eyeroll - what a great tort! You're comparing a $150 handheld to what, a $300 handheld? Handheld's target audience is towards the younger audience, probably anywhere from the age groun of 5-15. Look at the Gameboy's ass raping success over the years. Look at the so-called bad ass competitors, like the nGage, which priced itself out of the market off the bat. The PSP will be a moderate success in the older age group, but even if it was priced at $200 the DS would still have the name recognition of the Gameboy attached to it based off marketing and the fact that everyone who thinks handheld thinks Gameboy.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: isekii
It said 140GBP didn't it ? or was it $150 ?

That's like 300 USD

145 Euros which is about $175 in US.

 

[xcript]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Wow, an eyeroll - what a great tort! You're comparing a $150 handheld to what, a $300 handheld? Handheld's target audience is towards the younger audience, probably anywhere from the age groun of 5-15. Look at the Gameboy's ass raping success over the years. Look at the so-called bad ass competitors, like the nGage, which priced itself out of the market off the bat. The PSP will be a moderate success in the older age group, but even if it was priced at $200 the DS would still have the name recognition of the Gameboy attached to it based off marketing and the fact that everyone who thinks handheld thinks Gameboy.

Wtf? Why are you getting so worked up? Haven't had lunch yet?

Read my post further up and maybe you'll understand my initial post. You took it way too seriously.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: xcript

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Wow, an eyeroll - what a great tort! You're comparing a $150 handheld to what, a $300 handheld? Handheld's target audience is towards the younger audience, probably anywhere from the age groun of 5-15. Look at the Gameboy's ass raping success over the years. Look at the so-called bad ass competitors, like the nGage, which priced itself out of the market off the bat. The PSP will be a moderate success in the older age group, but even if it was priced at $200 the DS would still have the name recognition of the Gameboy attached to it based off marketing and the fact that everyone who thinks handheld thinks Gameboy.

Wtf? Why are you getting so worked up? Haven't had lunch yet?

Read my post further up and maybe you'll understand my initial post. You took it way too seriously.

Then don't make retarded comments without explaining yourself More interesting device? Gah die! JOIFJSOF(*&(*!

 

[DanJ]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: xcript

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Wow, an eyeroll - what a great tort! You're comparing a $150 handheld to what, a $300 handheld? Handheld's target audience is towards the younger audience, probably anywhere from the age groun of 5-15. Look at the Gameboy's ass raping success over the years. Look at the so-called bad ass competitors, like the nGage, which priced itself out of the market off the bat. The PSP will be a moderate success in the older age group, but even if it was priced at $200 the DS would still have the name recognition of the Gameboy attached to it based off marketing and the fact that everyone who thinks handheld thinks Gameboy.

Wtf? Why are you getting so worked up? Haven't had lunch yet?

Read my post further up and maybe you'll understand my initial post. You took it way too seriously.

Then don't make retarded comments without explaining yourself More interesting device? One plays DVDs along with games, one doesn't. Seems pretty cut and dry which is more interesting.

Uh, the PSP DOES NOT play DVDs. That would be quite a bulky handheld. Sure you could I suppose purchase movies again on the UMD discs (each disc can hold 2 hour supposedly) again to watch on a 5 inch screen...

 

[xcript]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Then don't make retarded comments without explaining yourself

Sorry, I make retarded comments without explaining myself all the time.

I didn't think anyone noticed.

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
More interesting device? One plays DVDs along with games, one doesn't. Seems pretty cut and dry which is more interesting.

Exactly.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: DanJ

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: xcript

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Wow, an eyeroll - what a great tort! You're comparing a $150 handheld to what, a $300 handheld? Handheld's target audience is towards the younger audience, probably anywhere from the age groun of 5-15. Look at the Gameboy's ass raping success over the years. Look at the so-called bad ass competitors, like the nGage, which priced itself out of the market off the bat. The PSP will be a moderate success in the older age group, but even if it was priced at $200 the DS would still have the name recognition of the Gameboy attached to it based off marketing and the fact that everyone who thinks handheld thinks Gameboy.

Wtf? Why are you getting so worked up? Haven't had lunch yet?

Read my post further up and maybe you'll understand my initial post. You took it way too seriously.

Then don't make retarded comments without explaining yourself More interesting device? One plays DVDs along with games, one doesn't. Seems pretty cut and dry which is more interesting.

Uh, the PSP DOES NOT play DVDs. That would be quite a bulky handheld. Sure you could I suppose purchase movies again on the UMD discs (each disc can hold 2 hour supposedly) again to watch on a 5 inch screen...

Oh. Err, then whatever the hell it does. The PSP off the bat looks more interesting, blah

 

[DanJ]

Originally posted by: xcript

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
More interesting device? One plays DVDs along with games, one doesn't. Seems pretty cut and dry which is more interesting.

Exactly.

No, the PSP DOES NOT not play DVDs. Think about it people. It would be ridiculous in your hands. It would be like playing a portable CD player.

 

[xcript]

Originally posted by: DanJ
No, the PSP DOES NOT not play DVDs. Think about it people. It would be ridiculous in your hands. It would be like playing a portable CD player.

I KNOW, but I knew what he was getting at.

Take it easy guy.

 

[DanJ]

Originally posted by: xcript

Originally posted by: DanJ
No, the PSP DOES NOT not play DVDs. Think about it people. It would be ridiculous in your hands. It would be like playing a portable CD player.

I KNOW, but I knew what he was getting at.

Take it easy guy.

I really don't understand this as a *USABLE* selling feature. Alright, in *theory* it can play DVD quality material. This might be useful in cut-scenes in games, though obviously you probably wouldn't want to use the highest quailty as that would remove space from actual game play.

So what are you left with? The option (who knows if this will be an option) to purchase near DVD quality media on a proprietary disc you can only play in a PSP on a 5-inch screen for let's say $10-$15 (more if its over 2 hours long).

Its a PS2 in a handheld except that it can't play actual DVDs. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Modeps]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: Modeps

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Considering the fact that I don't own an SP, but the DS will play all GB, GBC, GBA games, and only costs $50 more than an SP................plus the graphics kick a$$ in Metroid DS............I'm buying.

Like I said, there's no way I'm tapping a screen with a stylus to fire at monsters.

That's the most retarded statement in this thread.

Great, it's retarded, and you dont know anything about how Metroid DS will work. Stop being a Raging Bitch.

The directional pad controls Samus' feet movements, while the stylus prompts a moveable cursor once you touch the screen. Holding the stylus on the screen and moving the cursor with it is how you look and aim. Tapping the screen fires Samus' weapon; obviously the faster you tap, the faster you fire. Holding down the stylus on the screen also charges your weapon. The L and R triggers lock on to a target and the four additional buttons allow you to change weapons. This is quite an innovative and fun way to tackle the control scheme of Metroid Prime.

 

[Thraxen]

That's the most retarded statement in this thread.

You have got to be kidding. He has a good point. Why would anyone want to use a stylus to play a game? I have to question how long a screen can last with kids tapping the hell of it with a stylus. It's a bad idea.

 

[Turkish]

PSP is going to own Nintendo's DS. We all know it.

 

[royaldank]

You have got to be kidding. He has a good point. Why would anyone want to use a stylus to play a game? I have to question how long a screen can last with kids tapping the hell of it with a stylus. It's a bad idea.

That was one of my initial thoughts when they released the specs. How long can that screen holdup with kids playing and so forth. The GBA is a great machine and very durable. Haven't messed with a GBSP so no comment there. I would expect the life of the screen to be very good given N's past history, but who knows.

And how often are kids going to loose the stylus? How much are they going to cost? How many times will parents go buy a new one because their kid keeps loosing it?

 

[Modeps]

Originally posted by: Thraxen

That's the most retarded statement in this thread.

You have got to be kidding. He has a good point. Why would anyone want to use a stylus to play a game? I have to question how long a screen can last with kids tapping the hell of it with a stylus. It's a bad idea.

Bingo.

 

[DanJ]

Originally posted by: XietyCOM
PSP is going to own Nintendo's DS. We all know it.

Based on what exactly?