Final Fantasy XII

[akubi]

X-2 sucked. X was epic. XII played like a single player mmorpg...

 

[ViviTheMage]

X was crap IMO...no free range at all, like in 7...you were stuck following one path... X-2, I did not even bother with actually.

12 was OK, but still lacked free range world flow like 7 had. I liked 8, but 9, and 7 are my favorite. 9 , to me, is like 7 with updated graphics, and set in the medieval era...haha I remember seeing those FF9 commercials in the movie theater, with coke? (or was it pepsi?).

 

[Oyeve]

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
X was crap IMO...no free range at all, like in 7...you were stuck following one path... X-2, I did not even bother with actually.

12 was OK, but still lacked free range world flow like 7 had. I liked 8, but 9, and 7 are my favorite. 9 , to me, is like 7 with updated graphics, and set in the medieval era...haha I remember seeing those FF9 commercials in the movie theater, with coke? (or was it pepsi?).

While 7 was epic I think the free range you speak of was its weakness. I cant count how many times I restarted the game from the beginning because it was so free range that I completely lost track of what I was supposed to be doing. Damn that floating casino!

 

[imported_protoz]

Out of those FF9 was the most playable for me. FF7 is a close second. I just liked the throwback to the older FF games compared to the abomination that was FF8. I can still play FF9 and FF7 but not FF8.

 

[ViviTheMage]

Originally posted by: Oyeve

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
X was crap IMO...no free range at all, like in 7...you were stuck following one path... X-2, I did not even bother with actually.

12 was OK, but still lacked free range world flow like 7 had. I liked 8, but 9, and 7 are my favorite. 9 , to me, is like 7 with updated graphics, and set in the medieval era...haha I remember seeing those FF9 commercials in the movie theater, with coke? (or was it pepsi?).

While 7 was epic I think the free range you speak of was its weakness. I cant count how many times I restarted the game from the beginning because it was so free range that I completely lost track of what I was supposed to be doing. Damn that floating casino!

I loved finding the choocobos, finding quifa at her swamp...'grinding' for fun and interesting monsters, the side quests were fun when you wanted to something other then the main plot.

Originally posted by: protoz
Out of those FF9 was the most playable for me. FF7 is a close second. I just liked the throwback to the older FF games compared to the abomination that was FF8. I can still play FF9 and FF7 but not FF8.

FF8 had the card game, that was new/interesting, but other then that it was a flop imo...seemed like every JRPG, as PieIsAwesome called it.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Dacalo

Originally posted by: waggy

yeap. FF VI was just flat out amazing. it had a great storyline, greath gameplay, the charectors are unforgetable.


last really good RPG i have played was Dragon Warrior VIII. would love a great RPG on the PS3

Also awesome soundtrack. The best by far in the series followed by FF IV in my opinion.

Hopefully White Knight Story will be a decent game for PS3. I really think original JRPG genre is dead though.

oh yeah the soundtrack was great. i have the CD of it.

i really hope JRPG's are not dead. i hate the way new rpgs are going. they are to easy, to liniar, to much FMV (it should be used to show something importatn. like the world breaking in FF VI) and crappy gameplay. granted most have good charector devolopment.

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: Chronoshock

Originally posted by: Azn
OP is probably talking about PCSX2 the emulator. FF10 plays at full speed but 12 doesn't.

FF12 runs at close to 80FPS constant with 2x AA on. I'm using a q9550 and a 4870x2 both at stock speeds.

amdhunter, if your computer is capable of running it at reasonable speeds, you should also try playing FF12 using pcsx2. You just need a controller (I'm using a logitech cordless rumblepad 2, very similar to a dual shock 2)

Not everyone has Q9550 and a 4870x2. Not that PCSX2 supports quad processors nor is it graphics hungry. Even then there are slowdowns more so than FFX.

I was running 3.05 ghz compared to your 2.83ghz. I was getting average of 50fps. With FFX I got constant 60fps since I have frame limiter if you don't the game runs funny and some dips to 50's in some intense scene.

 

[Dumac]

I hated FFXII. The characters were boring and show little development over the story. All the fans of XII I have met just like the game because they believe politics=mature.

 

[Yreka]

VI and VII were my favorites.. I am in the middle of replaying VI actually. (PSP)

I am about halfway through Crisis Core too.. Im enjoying that one quite a bit more than expected. Unfortunately, the protagonist *in keeping with current trends* is a complete douche.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: akubi
XII played like a single player mmorpg...

That's exactly how I felt when I tried it. It was like WoW without the wow.

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
FF8 had the card game, that was new/interesting, but other then that it was a flop imo...seemed like every JRPG, as PieIsAwesome called it.

The FF8 card game was actually pretty cool. FF9 ruined that though. It was simplistic yet could get really interesting (and was quickly finished).

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

I know this thread is mega-old, but I am bit late to the Final Fantasy XII party.

I played the demo years ago and wasn't too impressed with it, and I have heard a large amount of negative opinion about this game. Skeptically, I just bought it, and I must say I am pleasantly surprised. The story and characters are extremely weak, but I find the gameplay system to be different and interesting.

Also, the poll presented by the OP is fail. There are other Final Fantasy before the PlayStation ones, you know...just the best Final Fantasy games (IV and VI) that came during the SNES days.

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
The story and characters are extremely weak, but I find the gameplay system to be different and interesting.

That's pretty much my opinion of the game, too. I just found myself at the point in the game where you fight Dr. Cid and I asked myself... "Why do I give a fuck?" and I couldn't answer it. Then I stopped playing the game. 4 months later I picked it back up SOLELY on principal of not wanting to put 100 hours into a game I'm not going to beat.


If you took FFVIII's characters and story (Since I REAAAALLLLYYY hate the mechanics of the game but love the chars/story) and applied it to FFXII's mechanics (which has the total opposite problem of VIII) it'd probably be one of the best of the series.

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
The story and characters are extremely weak, but I find the gameplay system to be different and interesting.

That's pretty much my opinion of the game, too. I just found myself at the point in the game where you fight Dr. Cid and I asked myself... "Why do I give a fuck?" and I couldn't answer it. Then I stopped playing the game. 4 months later I picked it back up SOLELY on principal of not wanting to put 100 hours into a game I'm not going to beat.


If you took FFVIII's characters and story (Since I REAAAALLLLYYY hate the mechanics of the game but love the chars/story) and applied it to FFXII's mechanics (which has the total opposite problem of VIII) it'd probably be one of the best of the series.

I actually liked the gameplay system in Final Fantasy VIII. It was fun beating the game at level 7 with all max stats and totally owning Ultima and Omega Weapon.

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: the unknown
I just beat 12 a few days ago. I must say, though its definitely not the best, it is the toughest. It has some good challenges that really make you wonder how you're gonna get through it. Plus if you play you're gonna put A LOT of hours into it. I put in 50 and I'm not one to finish every little detail in an RPG. Story is decent, and has a feeling of FF Tactics to it (a lot of the same names are used), and is just enough to keep you going. It didn't draw me in like any of the others though. Play it if you have the time; don't play it if you only have less than an hour a day.

There's a really good reason for that. Both games are based in the game world of Ivalice.

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: Saint Michael
Final Fantasy 12 was an attempt to cross the mature, political and philosophical Ogre series with the classic FF formula. It seemed like a botch job though, very little story (despite a standard FF length) or character development. You'll get through the whole game and go: what the fuck, that was it? It feels like it got through about 1/4 of the story of FFVII, as though FFVII just stopped right after the party leaves Midgar.

There are plenty of things to do in FF12, but the main issue to me is that it just seemed to MMOGish. Like it tried to combine too much from FF11 into the Final Fantasy formula. It's more about questing for random stuff as opposed to a fully flushed out main story with a few diversions along the way.

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: akubi
X-2 sucked. X was epic. XII played like a single player mmorpg...

Good and short summary right here. +1

 

[tokie]

I liked FF7 best. I enjoyed the story, characters and card-game in FF8 but the Junction system was a big mess compared to the Materia/MP system.

Tried to play FFX but I couldn't get into it.

 

[shortylickens]

On that list? 7. But thats not my fave.
After 7 they got really damn stupid & emo & androgenous.
The anime culture really messed up the franchise. It will never be the same again.

 

[Sadaiyappan]

VII was okay. I enjoyed chrono trigger more than FFVII.

 

[zebano]

I'm in the minority where I really loved 8. It took me a couple tries because drawing/junction was a pain, but the story is simply the best (even better than IV & VI). I played through FF1 over the weekend out of simple nastalgia using the peninsula NE of ?? and Fir2 to ease the pain of grinding out levels.

 

[artemicion]

It's kinda interesting learning the vastly differing views on what makes a great FF. People love or hate FFs based on things as varied as the final boss (7's sephiroth vs. 9's final boss that comes out of nowhere), whether you travel on a world map (a gameplay facet that died after 9), whether you like realstic characters ("humes" vs. moogles. or humans that attack using moogle dolls. or horned humans that summon moogles. or cats riding a moogle suit), or whether the plot involves going to the moon.

12 I would say feels like a start departure from the rest of the FF series, which hurt some people's opinion of it, while at the same time expanded the franchise to new fans. The gameplay is not traditional FF (it's like MMORPG gameplay as someone accurately said). The music isn't by Nobuo Uematsu. The story is more political drama (a la FF: Tactics) than fantasy.

Though it does have chocobos, moogles (but they don't deliver the mail - boo), a weapon called 'masamune', 'genji' armor. And crystals (or materia? magicite? nethicite? MANUFACTED(???) nethicite?).

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: zebano
I'm in the minority where I really loved 8. It took me a couple tries because drawing/junction was a pain, but the story is simply the best (even better than IV & VI). I played through FF1 over the weekend out of simple nastalgia using the peninsula NE of ?? and Fir2 to ease the pain of grinding out levels.

Thats pretty much the norm.
Anybody who tries to grind away using the Ogres east of Elfland is crazy.

And its Pravoka you were thinking of.