Fill your tank with vegetable oil

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Eli

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Originally posted by: rgwalt
I think running cars off veg oil is a great way to reuse the waste oil we produce, but I doubt it will ever replace fossil fuels.

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I tend to agree.

I've actually really been wanting to get an older Mercedes, Volkswagen or Volvo diesel and do the conversion.

Used oil is free! I wouldn't mind the labor involved in filtering it at all.. I love stuff like that.

It would technically take about 2 years to recoup the total cost of the conversion, but still....
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: Howard
I used this link before.

http://www.energybulletin.net/2364.html
That's very! interesting!

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One of the important concerns about wide-scale development of biodiesel is if it would displace croplands currently used for food crops. In the US, roughly 450 million acres of land is used for growing crops, with the majority of that actually being used for producing animal feed for the meat industry. Another 580 million acres is used for grassland pasture and range, according to the USDA's Economic Research Service. This accounts for nearly half of the 2.3 billion acres within the US (only 3% of which, or 66 million acres, is categorized as urban land).
NREL's research showed that one quad (7.5 billion gallons) of biodiesel could be produced from 200,000 hectares of desert land (200,000 hectares is equivalent to 780 square miles, roughly 500,000 acres), if the remaining challenges are solved (as they will be, with several research groups and companies working towards it, including ours at UNH). In the previous section, we found that to replace all transportation fuels in the US, we would need 140.8 billion gallons of biodiesel, or roughly 19 quads (one quad is roughly 7.5 billion gallons of biodiesel). To produce that amount would require a land mass of almost 15,000 square miles. To put that in perspective, consider that the Sonora desert in the southwestern US comprises 120,000 square miles. Enough biodiesel to replace all petroleum transportation fuels could be grown in 15,000 square miles, or roughly 12.5 percent of the area of the Sonora desert (note for clarification - I am not advocating putting 15,000 square miles of algae ponds in the Sonora desert. This hypothetical example is used strictly for the purpose of showing the scale of land required). That 15,000 square miles works out to roughly 9.5 million acres - far less than the 450 million acres currently used for crop farming in the US, and the over 500 million acres used as grazing land for farm animals.
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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Why are people saying that there isn't enough land. Try flying across country. There is a lot of unused land in Amaerica. and a lot of it is suitable for farming, it just isn't convienent yet. If bio desiel is going to be the way to go, that land will become very convenient when millions of acres of it is cultivated and cities pop-up to house and take care of the worker of these mega farms.
Large-scale farming is even worse for the environment than greenhouse gas emissions. Pesticides, runoff, etc.