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figured it out...ME laptop networking probelm

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beatniks3

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hello. Trying to network my sony vaio r505 with an old compaq computer via crossover cable. I setup both computers using the guides floating around the internet...the compaq sees 'itself' in the network neighborhood, but does not see the vaio. the vaio doesn't see itself and, of course, doesn't see the compaq. I am guessing that the probelm is on the vaio side. it is running winME, while the compaq is running win98se. I have followed the guide's advice down to the word. where do I go from here to get this to work? please someone, anyone. thanks for reading this...

edited: title...flag down some ME people (if there are any)
 
Can you post the protocols that you have installed? You should have File and Printer Sharing, TCP/IP, NETBEUI, Client for Microsoft Networks, and maybe IPX/SPX installed on both computers. Also make sure that you have the same workgroup name.
 
i have all of the protocals you listed on both computers and the workgroup's name isthe same. why wouldn't the vaio see itself on the network? I am pretty sure that is where the probelm is at...
 
You have something actually shared out on the Vaio right? If not, I think you need to share a folder or something before it will show up in network neighborhood.
 


<< You have something actually shared out on the Vaio right? If not, I think you need to share a folder or something before it will show up in network neighborhood. >>



yup, i got the harddrive shared on both computers. Why does the compaq see itself in its network neighborhood but the vaio doesn't see itself in its network neighborhood?

I am stumped, should I just remove all the protocals and start from scratch?
 
Yeah you should try to uninstall the network-related software (Protocols, and NIC Drivers), and reinstall.
When a computer does not see it self it can be basic hardware problem, or and wrong software settings.

Make sure that there is no hardware conflict after driver installation (look in Control Panel > System properties > Device Manager. Try to install NetBEUI protocol first to see if there is a simple connection between the two computers.
 
JackMDS, thanks for the advice (which i followed last night with no luck). I reinstalled the network stuff and even deleted the NIC drivers and reinstalled them. I have read that you are supposed to remove the card at restart at least once, but it is built-in to the laptp so I don't know how I would do that...

This is the first time I have used winWE (and hopefully the last, I plan on networking the laptop to my desktop and making an image of the harddrive before installing XPpro!) and it seems like the network settings are different than 98se...I mean I know for sure that there is a 'home networking wizard' in ME that is not in 98se for example.

Anybody suffered through an ME network installation? Could anyone on a comptuer running ME on a network confirm that you are supposed to see "yourself" in the network neighorhood? Thanks a million for looking...
 
Each OS has it's own quirks and drawbacks. Windows ME is a strange creation. Confirmation provided.

File and Printer sharing must be enabled. If this is not enabled on ME, you won't be able to 'see' the ME PC from either itself or another via the Network Neighborhood browser (NetBIOS response). You should still be able to ping the IP address of the ME PC from your XP PC, but won't see it by the network browser. Also, if you don't log onto ME by the Client for MS Networks, (not the Windows Logon -- see your control panel, network icon), you won't be able to see yourself or other PC's, but will only get an error on the Network Neightborhood browser (does't display workgroup names or PC names -- just nothing). You can actually be in separate workgroups or domains and still have rights and access to PC's in other domains and workgroups, but being in the same workgroup helps out quite a bit.

If NetBIOS is disabled on either PC, the other PC won't be able to see the PC name with NetBIOS disabled. In the Network icon under the Configuration tab, the option "File and printer sharing for Microsoft Networks" should be installed. In this option under Properties, you should have Browse Master set to automatic, since usually the higher OS will be the browser master.

Simplify your situation: use only one network protocol, like TCP/IP and eliminate NetBEUI and IPX unless you need IPX for gaming speed. We're all assuming your IP addresses are correct on each PC (same network, same netmask) and that you can ping one PC via the other (using TCP/IP).

Sample IP addresses and netmask for both PC's (netmask must be the same):
PCME
172.30.10.10 IP address
255.255.255.0 IP netmask

PC98
172.30.10.11 IP address
255.255.255.0 IP netmask

That's all you need to do. Don't enter any WINS or DNS server addresses or Gateway addresses, either leave those blank or delete anything in them.


 
JustinLerner, thanks for the advice. I have done everything you suggested and still no go. The ME computer still doesn't see anything in the "entire network."

I almost think that the network adapter in the laptop is the probelm, but there are no 'activity' lights that i can see to confirm that there is a connection. any other suggestions? thanks...
 


<< JustinLerner, thanks for the advice. I have done everything you suggested and still no go. The ME computer still doesn't see anything in the "entire network."

I almost think that the network adapter in the laptop is the probelm, but there are no 'activity' lights that i can see to confirm that there is a connection. any other suggestions? thanks... >>



here's my thought. the compaq see's itself on the network, sounds good. however, the vaio does not so i think it's either a nic or cabling problem. ping the nics to see if you get a repsonse (ping 127.0.0.1) if both respond, then try switching your cabling. also, try pinging from one to another to see if you at least have TCP/IP installed correctly.
 
well guys, thanks for your help! I finally got the network up and running. I ended up deleting all the network stuff and following the directions here. Oh and I am changing the title to reflect the working situation.
 
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