Fighting HIV with Malaria?

[PistachioByAzul]

Well, if you have the money, AIDS (or rather HIV) isn't lethal. It has become managable with the drug coctails. Unfortunately, most the people in the world can't afford these drugs.

That seems to be the popular perception. Those drug cocktails will start to eat away at you too.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: classy
Hmmmm. Well his theory is not ridiculous. Its introducing something that you know you can cure to kill off something you can't cure. I hope more testing is done along these lines. For someone who is going to die anyway its certainly worth a shot. Remember it was considered crazy when we started injecting kids with certain diseases so they could develop an immunity to the disease. Mecidine is not always 1+1=2.

I agree to an extent. It sounds odd(ok, very odd), but I'm not about to throw any given idea out the window. Frankly, I'd like to see this run through the "standard" medical experimentation(voluntary, closely watched conditions, etc), and see what becomes of it. It might be the 21st century version of cutting off an infected limb, but we haven't invented/discovered antibiotics to cure that limb yet.

 

[ReiAyanami]

click on the link. story is by "enquirer.com"

'nuff said.

 

[Siva]

If it does work, the question is can Malaria be controlled well enough so that its a safe procedure to use?

 

[McPhreak]

This procedure will not work.

 

[IcemanJer]

Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
click on the link. story is by "enquirer.com"

'nuff said.

it's not _THE_ Enquirer... linky says the Cincinnati Enquirer

 

[TNTrulez]

Originally posted by: McPhreak
This procedure will not work.

How do you know?

 

[UDT89]

Originally posted by: McPhreak
This procedure will not work.

why? u know someone that tried it?

 

[DanTMWTMP]

Originally posted by: IcemanJer

Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
click on the link. story is by "enquirer.com"

'nuff said.

it's not _THE_ Enquirer... linky says the Cincinnati Enquirer

hehe was about to comment on the same thing...


man....i donno man....if it works..cnn will be all over this..and free sex baby!..and then....followed by a new trend...a sex hangover where u have to get malariatharopy....get those insane fevers....yeah....

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: LeeTJ


Magic Johnson still looks good. I guess he can afford the drugs.

apparently magic is rarely coherent

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

As of today, AIDS cannot be cured. Just about any AIDS patient will try whatever treatment is suggested, as some hope is still better than none at all.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: rgwalt
Well, if you have the money, AIDS (or rather HIV) isn't lethal. It has become managable with the drug coctails. Unfortunately, most the people in the world can't afford these drugs. To these people, HIV is a death sentence. I'm sure they would *gladly* take malaria for three weeks and along with the dead brain cells if it meant that it would kill HIV. I'll trade IQ points for life any day of the week.

Ryan

SAY whut?!?! NOT LETHAL?? Where did you get that idea??? You are wrong. DEAD wrong. The drug cocktails only work in a percentage of patients. There are many for whom those drugs are ineffective regardless of money spent. I have friends who would back me up here only they are DEAD .
This virus mutates rapidly and subsequent re-infection ( with another strain of HIV ) can render previous treatments null. There is no prophilaxis treatment. In most cases of HIV death, it has been from secondary infections (pnuemonia, etc).
I would say one would be very lucky to have it be a chronic condition.

 

[McPhreak]

Originally posted by: UDT89

Originally posted by: McPhreak
This procedure will not work.

why? u know someone that tried it?

No. The problem with this method is that it does not answer the problem I listed above. If the malaria somehow managaed to miraculously work and kill the active virus, you still have latent virus to worry about.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: McPhreak

Originally posted by: UDT89

Originally posted by: McPhreak
This procedure will not work.

why? u know someone that tried it?

No. The problem with this method is that it does not answer the problem I listed above. If the malaria somehow managaed to miraculously work and kill the active virus, you still have latent virus to worry about.

If the human race never took chances we'd still be living in caves. Many of the inventions that changed the world were invented by people who were considered crackpots during their lives.

 

[McPhreak]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: McPhreak

Originally posted by: UDT89

Originally posted by: McPhreak
This procedure will not work.

why? u know someone that tried it?

No. The problem with this method is that it does not answer the problem I listed above. If the malaria somehow managaed to miraculously work and kill the active virus, you still have latent virus to worry about.

If the human race never took chances we'd still be living in caves. Many of the inventions that changed the world were invented by people who were considered crackpots during their lives.

I certainly applaud innovation. This perhaps has potential to treat HIV, but I will bet my life that this will not rid the body of HIV. The concept of HIV latency is a relatively new discovery about HIV which sort of throws a wrench in the cure for HIV. This is where innovation comes in. We need to look to find a way to distinguish between latently infected T Cells and uninfected T Cells to rid the body of HIV.

For anyone who wants to know about HIV latency, this guy knows all about it.

 

[sandorski]

Interesting approach that might work. Drug companies won't like it if it does work, they having spent $billions on alternate therapies and all. I don't expect any kind of funding for this kind of research.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: McPhreak

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: McPhreak

Originally posted by: UDT89

Originally posted by: McPhreak
This procedure will not work.

why? u know someone that tried it?

No. The problem with this method is that it does not answer the problem I listed above. If the malaria somehow managaed to miraculously work and kill the active virus, you still have latent virus to worry about.

If the human race never took chances we'd still be living in caves. Many of the inventions that changed the world were invented by people who were considered crackpots during their lives.

I certainly applaud innovation. This perhaps has potential to treat HIV, but I will bet my life that this will not rid the body of HIV. The concept of HIV latency is a relatively new discovery about HIV which sort of throws a wrench in the cure for HIV. This is where innovation comes in. We need to look to find a way to distinguish between latently infected T Cells and uninfected T Cells to rid the body of HIV.

For anyone who wants to know about HIV latency, this guy knows all about it.

RIP
McPhreak
xxxx-xxxx
Bet his life and lost.

 

[DoNotDisturb]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
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Cincinnati's Dr. Henry Heimlich says malaria can be used to cure AIDS, cancer and Lyme disease through a process called malariotherapy. Dr. Heimlich has been sharply criticized by state, federal and international health organizations for these experiments.
This is how he explained the process at a conference in October:

His theory is based on tests performed in 1918 by Nobel Prize winner (medicine) Julius Wagner-Jauregg, who reported that malariotherapy cured neurosyphilis.

The idea is to inject AIDS patients with malaria to induce high fevers that will kill the HIV virus.

After 10-12 fevers and after approximately three weeks, the malaria is cured with drugs.

The fevers allegedly spark an immune reaction, which reverses AIDS' attack on patients' immune system.

In one study, malariotherapy was performed on eight HIV-positive men, ages 23-40, in China. After the malaria was cured, the patients were monitored for two years.

Heimlich contends that malariotherapy is affordable and available to patients who would not normally have access to expensive drugs.

I think Dr Heimlich has had the Heimlich Manuver performed one too many times on him. Each time the patients spike a high fever, they'll lose some brain cells.

either way, you lose brain cells everyday.