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fighting a speeding ticket... need as many opinions before 3:40

TrueBlueLS

Platinum Member
Okay, today's the last day I have to either pay or tell the city I got my ticket in that I want to fight it. Well... I'm not going to flat out pay it and take the points. I have the choice of representing myself and just begging the magistrate for a probationary period or I can hire a lawyer for $350 that says he knows the DA in the city. Does anyone think I could get probation considering this was a ticket for 15 over (the officer said he clocked me at 12 over)? I think the officer is trying to get this one to stick because he said I tailgated the person and cut them off. I know I did not do this because of me signaling both times to switch lanes at approximately 50 feet before and after the driver of the other car.
 


<< Okay, today's the last day I have to either pay or tell the city I got my ticket in that I want to fight it. Well... I'm not going to flat out pay it and take the points. I have the choice of representing myself and just begging the magistrate for a probationary period or I can hire a lawyer for $350 that says he knows the DA in the city. Does anyone think I could get probation considering this was a ticket for 15 over (the officer said he clocked me at 12 over)? I think the officer is trying to get this one to stick because he said I tailgated the person and cut them off. I know I did not do this because of me signaling both times to switch lanes at approximately 50 feet before and after the driver of the other car. >>



Probation for a speeding ticket?? did i hear you right??
 
Probation... still pay the fee for the ticket but no points on my license if i can complete the probationary period without any infractions. I have no problem paying the ticket, I just don't want the points because my insurance will kill me even with PLPD.
 
Just go plead guilty, tell the judge you may have had some ticket problems in the past, but that you are remorseful, and have learned your lesson. Offer to attend defensive driving school or the equal (at your expense) if he would see fit to allow this ticket to drop off of your record after the probationary period. Of course tell them you would be more than happy to pay any related court costs associated with this matter.

Be sincere and respectful and you should have no problem.
 


<< Just go plead guilty, tell the judge you may have had some ticket problems in the past, but that you are remorseful, and have learned your lesson. Offer to attend defensive driving school or the equal (at your expense) if he would see fit to allow this ticket to drop off of your record after the probationary period. Of course tell them you would be more than happy to pay any related court costs associated with this matter.

Be sincere and respectful and you should have no problem.
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yea, thats a good plan... i just went to court for my ticket the other night, and they reduced everyones offenses down to 1110a (eleven-ten-A's if said outloud) that is in NY though, and considering you said magistrate in your post, i am thinking you are probably in canada?? i may be wrong though.. if in the US ask for a reduction to an 1110a, they should go for that. i was going 16 mph over and got 1110a
 
1110A? What's that? Oh yeah... magistrate is just what my friend told me I'd appear before since he's had a little experience with this.
 
just tell them you were drunk and therefore are not responsible for your actions on the night in question.
 
If you are concerned about the points, spend the money for the lawyer. You'll pay more in insurance increases over the next few years than you'll pay for the lawyer.
 


<< just tell them you were drunk and therefore are not responsible for your actions on the night in question. >>

Either that, or tell them that your radar detector was malfunctioning. 😉
 
I've had a couple of tickets in my time (although none in the last 3 years, knock on wood), and I always plead not guilty and take it to the judge. I also always require the officer to show up in court as well (if you plead not guilty, it's a requirement in Oregon that the officer show up anyway, if he doesn't the case is automatically dropped, you have the right to face your accuser in court). I have never hired a lawyer for a traffic ticket. The cost of a ticket does not justify the cost of lawyer and a they are very little help in traffic court anyway. I tended to get out the ticket about half the time, a lot depends on the officer and the judge.
For those who are going to flame me, the vast majority of my speeding tickets (around 10, I suppose) were ~8 years ago when I worked as an outside sales rep with extremely tight (how about unmakeable?) scheduling. My employers did not care about what tickets I got (and said so), they just wanted me to make my appointments on time. The job paid quite well and they also paid my car payments and insurance, so I kept my complaints to a minimum.
Fighting tickets is simple, although you are unlikely to win (the odds are definitely in the house's favor).
- Plead not guilty and arrange a court date. It is almost always 2+ months after you got the ticket.
- Subpoena the ticketing officer, requiring him/her to show up in court and present evidence against you. A big plus here is that if the officer doesn't show up, your case is almost always dismissed.
- Make your court date, dress nice business casual (not flashy).
- Respect the judge (it's his courtroom, he makes the rules) but do not patronize and do NOT waste his time.
- Ask short, intelligent questions, and demonstrate a knowledge and respect for the law. Always cross-examine the officer, nit-pick him on little things, but smart things like when was the last time he was trained with the radar gun, when was the last time the gun was tuned, how clear was the weather, how good was his visibility, when did he write and submit his report, etc. (remembering that the biggest mistake you can make it wasting the judge's time)
- Present your case quickly and intelligently, have it prepared beforehand.
- The judge (in almost all states) cannot look at your record before deciding guilt or innocence, but he can look at your record when determining your fine/punishment. If he offers you a reduced settlement beforehand, preferably one that involves a small fine but no ding on your record, TAKE IT.

Things to remember:
Speeding is speeding. If you get a ticket for 70 in a 55, you will NOT get off by saying that you were only doing 60.
Be smart. I once saw a guy in court lose a case where an officer said he saw the guy speeding, 65 in a 50, from half a mile back, and yet the officer said it took less than 30 seconds at 70 for him to catch up with the offender. It doesn't take a math whiz to figure out how that guy could have won his case.
And most importantly, always quietly deny that you were speeding AT ALL until you decide to change your plea to guilty.

Personally, while I think the $350 fine is excessive (how f'ing fast were you going?), I think you should take the "probation" agreement, but make sure that the probation term is one year or less AND that you don't have to face Double Jeopardy in the future (where if you fail the terms of the probation, you can be re-tried for the same offense again, very bad).

Good luck.
 
This brings up a question. What exactly are the penelties for a speeding ticket, as far as insurance goes. I've never gotten a ticket, thankfully😀, so I dont really know, right now i drive about 5 to 10 over most of the time and cops dont bother me to much.
 
In my state of North Carolina we have something called "Prayer for Judgement Continued." It's a get out of jail for free type thing. You go to the judge and ask for a prayer for judgement continued and he will put off "judgment" indefinetly. It's a freebie. No judgment. You go home with a clean record. Each and every citizen is entitled to use this PJC once every 5 years or so. The judge almost always grants them.

 
Don't fight it. In my country, you would have your legs chopped off for speeding, and you tongue removed for arguing.
 


<< my advice:

pay ticket

let it go

forget about it

slow your ass down
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yeah....judge/da/officer all work for city/state....they want that money...
i don't know how it work in your town but in Cali...if the offcier don't show up, u win...just hope he would'nt show up
 
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