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Fifth Grader Suspended for Aiming Imaginary Weapon in Class

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dmcowen674

No Lifer
12-10-2013

http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/fi...ming-imaginary-weapon-in-class-190850517.html

Fifth Grader Suspended for Aiming Imaginary Weapon in Class



The fifth grader was disciplined at South Eastern Middle School-West, in Fawn Grove, in October, where Principal Jon Horton categorized Johnny’s actions as threatening: playfully using his hands to draw the bowstring on an imaginary bow to “shoot” an arrow at his friend, who had pretended to shoot him with a pencil, according to Whitehead. Horton then suspended both boys for violating the school’s code of conduct, which bans weapons, including any “replica” or “look-alike.” (The parents of the second boy, Whitehead explains, are not fighting the school.)


But now the boy’s parents are firing back with the aid of the Rutherford Institute, a national civil rights group, seeking to have his record expunged.


“He’s got a weapons charge — it’s crazy,” notes John Whitehead, lead attorney and founder of the Virginia-based organization, which sent a letter to South Eastern School District Superintendent Rona Kaufmann on Dec. 4. The letter calls the school’s action “ludicrous,” asking Kaufmann to remove the charge from Johnny’s permanent record and rescind his one-day suspension; it gives the school until Dec.13 to respond.
 
Should be an open and shut case.

Can fingers be misconstrued or actually morph into real bow and arrow?

No, case dismissed.
 
dmcowen674 said:
12-10-2013

http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/fi...ming-imaginary-weapon-in-class-190850517.html

Fifth Grader Suspended for Aiming Imaginary Weapon in Class



The fifth grader was disciplined at South Eastern Middle School-West, in Fawn Grove, in October, where Principal Jon Horton categorized Johnny’s actions as threatening: playfully using his hands to draw the bowstring on an imaginary bow to “shoot” an arrow at his friend, who had pretended to shoot him with a pencil, according to Whitehead. Horton then suspended both boys for violating the school’s code of conduct, which bans weapons, including any “replica” or “look-alike.” (The parents of the second boy, Whitehead explains, are not fighting the school.)


But now the boy’s parents are firing back with the aid of the Rutherford Institute, a national civil rights group, seeking to have his record expunged.


“He’s got a weapons charge — it’s crazy,” notes John Whitehead, lead attorney and founder of the Virginia-based organization, which sent a letter to South Eastern School District Superintendent Rona Kaufmann on Dec. 4. The letter calls the school’s action “ludicrous,” asking Kaufmann to remove the charge from Johnny’s permanent record and rescind his one-day suspension; it gives the school until Dec.13 to respond.
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Find whoever construed the imaginary bow and arrow to be threatening.

Kick his or her ass.

Case closed.
 
Whitehead says he’s been defending students in school incidents involving fake and imagined weapons since the 1990s, but that “after Columbine [shootings] is when we really saw it take off.” Schools have “ramped up” fighting these “crimes of the imagination,” he notes, particularly post-Sandy Hook, adding that the latest trend is to call the police in for backup, even in the case of young kids using their fingers as guns on the playground
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😵
 
What's really pathetic is that we are teaching the 7 year old in our house there are 2 sets of rules. One for school, and one for home. I wonder how many other parents are doing the same thing.

He came home one day saying we had to get rid of all our peanut butter because of allergies and the school has it banned. It was "dangerous" and "can kill someone." I told him he was getting a PB&J sammich for dinner.
 
It seems that many of these progressives within our educational system are chocked full of irrational fears. These insane people shouldn't be allowed near our children in my opinion.
 
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brandonb said:
What's really pathetic is that we are teaching the 7 year old in our house there are 2 sets of rules. One for school, and one for home. I wonder how many other parents are doing the same thing.

He came home one day saying we had to get rid of all our peanut butter because of allergies and the school has it banned. It was "dangerous" and "can kill someone." I told him he was getting a PB&J sammich for dinner.
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So could he get suspended for unscrewing the lid of an imaginary peanut butter jar?()🙂
 
dmcowen674 said:
Should be an open and shut case.

Can fingers be misconstrued or actually morph into real bow and arrow?

No, case dismissed.
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There is no "case". They do whatever they want. They dont care about law or morality or anything that even approaches logic or rationality. They just suck off the taxpayer and make up stupid bs rules until finally their absurdity reaches a level sufficient enough to draw in an adam lanza doped up on anti-psychotics.
 
Agreed that being disciplined for deploying a "finger gun" is rather sketchy use of enforcing school rules.

But to blame this incident on "liberal" or "progressive" types overreacting to it is a really long stretch when one's intent is to cast dispersions on a political/ideological entity one does not agree with. To me, this kind of problem has little or no political/ideological tilt to it at all.

Rather, as with so many other professions, it seems to me that paranoic concern over getting hit with annoying, costly and even career ending frivilous lawsuits is the main cause of these administrative disciplinary actions gone wild.

I'm going to hazard a guess and say that for as many overreactive disciplinary actions being handed down in our schools, there are just as many if not more frivilous lawsuits being made against these schools from parents with an exploitative agenda.
 
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tweaker2 said:
Agreed that being disciplined for deploying a "finger gun" is rather sketchy use of enforcing school rules.

But to blame this incident on "liberal" or "progressive" types overreacting to it is a really long stretch when one's intent is to cast dispersions on a political/ideological entity one does not agree with. To me, this kind of problem has little or no political/ideological tilt to it at all.
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Progressives pushed zero tolerance policies within our school systems since the 80s...especially so after Columbine (1999). And anybody with 2 brains cells can see that it's an abject failure.
 
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Doc Savage Fan said:
Progressives pushed zero tolerance policies within our school systems since the 80s...especially so after Columbine (1999). And anybody with 2 brains cells can see that it's an abject failure.
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Interesting. Links and documentation please. I'd like to be as well informed about it as possible.
 
Confiscate his imagination. Problem solved.

tweaker2 said:
Agreed that being disciplined for deploying a "finger gun" is rather sketchy use of enforcing school rules.

But to blame this incident on "liberal" or "progressive" types overreacting to it is a really long stretch when one's intent is to cast dispersions on a political/ideological entity one does not agree with. To me, this kind of problem has little or no political/ideological tilt to it at all.

Rather, as with so many other professions, it seems to me that paranoic concern over getting hit with annoying, costly and even career ending frivilous lawsuits is the main cause of these administrative disciplinary actions gone wild.

I'm going to hazard a guess and say that for as many overreactive disciplinary actions being handed down in our schools, there are just as many if not more frivilous lawsuits being made against these schools from parents with an exploitative agenda.
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Yep the shit is coming from both ends.
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When I was in grade school there was this thing called the Owl Squad. If a kid got out of control four teachers would show up and physically haul him/her down to the office to wait for their parents. I don't think handling a precious snowflake in that manner would fly today.

They were called the owl squad because the only thing they said was "Who?"
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sm625 said:
There is no "case". They do whatever they want. They dont care about law or morality or anything that even approaches logic or rationality. They just suck off the taxpayer and make up stupid bs rules until finally their absurdity reaches a level sufficient enough to draw in an adam lanza doped up on anti-psychotics.
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Damn do I love to see a good solid liberal reaction to freaks come out of conservatives.
 
this just in Live from INN (Idiotic Network News):

"We are at the scene now. Several 7 year olds have been playing imaginary war. One of them named Kevin was seen throwing several imaginary hand-grenades. We are told there are many casualties and that the play ground and school have been locked-down. The SWAT team is on the scene and have issued a statement that order will be restored shortly. Weeping and grieving parents are gathered out in front of the school and special councilors are available for to assist them in their time of need. May God help us all"
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I use to draw diagrams of me killing everyone in the school when I was in early grade school. Complete with names of people and a rough sketch of their likeness.

People would just do, "Lol you are so sick, Cool!"

It was basically GTA4 on plain white paper.

I can't imagine the shitstorm that would have happened to me if that happened today! D:
 
mizzou said:
I use to draw diagrams of me killing everyone in the school when I was in early grade school. Complete with names of people and a rough sketch of their likeness.

People would just do, "Lol you are so sick, Cool!"

It was basically GTA4 on plain white paper.

I can't imagine the shitstorm that would have happened to me if that happened today! D:
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Similar here. We had a family friend that got shipped off the Vietnam when I was in Elementary school. We wrote back and forth.

I drew all kinds of war and gun pictures.

Can imagine what would happen to a child now if he drew stuff like that.

This Country is heading towards a tipping point faster and faster everyday, it's like a blackhole.
 
Doc Savage Fan said:
You might want to start here in order to understand how progressive ideology dominates most every aspect of our educational system.

http://books.google.com/books?id=S0...uq1CYKj2QWniYCICw&ved=0CE8Q6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_education
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Thanks for the links Doc.:thumbsup:

Theb said:
Confiscate his imagination. Problem solved.



Yep the shit is coming from both ends.
unknauthor_problem-cartoon.jpg


When I was in grade school there was this thing called the Owl Squad. If a kid got out of control four teachers would show up and physically haul him/her down to the office to wait for their parents. I don't think handling a precious snowflake in that manner would fly today.

They were called the owl squad because the only thing they said was "Who?"
[ominous music]
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Yeh, I was a regular customer at the Vice Principal's office to garner my share of swats. The VP's swat paddle had ventilation holes in it to reduce air drag for a more lively and painful smack to the butt. I countered by wearing two pair of gym shorts under my pants every day to school. Problem solved. 😉

As a parent, I never missed Parent/Teacher's night every school year, just so I could tell each of my kid's teachers (with my kids present to hear it) that I give said teachers my express permission to slap the back of my kid's heads with a rolled up manila folder should they ever act up in class and to call me at their earliest convenience so I could slap those kids heads myself to reinforce the point being made. I let those teachers know I was on their side and that they could rely on me to keep my end of the kid's learning process alive and well on the home front.

Keeping a good line of communication open between myself and my kid's teachers paid off well, in the sense that the teachers knew I wanted my kids to get the most out of their learning experiences in school which in turn encouraged the teachers to help my kids along when needed, and coincidentally, to cut my kids some slack every once in a great while when the diffrence between an A+ and an A was debatable.
 
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