FIFA is F'ed

[SSSnail]

Linkified for the lazies http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/27/football/fifa-corruption-charges-justice-department/index.html

So after the US losses bid for the 2022 World Cup to Qatar, eyebrows were raised and heads will be rolling.

Everybody and their mothers know FIFA is a very corrupt organization, probably rivals the IOC, but one thing the FIFA Fs did not count on is how the US would respond. Just goes to show, you can screw with everybody else, just don't try to screw the US, they'll get you, eventually.

'Muricah, fuck yeah!

 

[Markbnj]

I don't know much about the governing body of pro soccer, but I'm always happy to see a scumbag corrupt official get taken down hard.

 

[Anubis]

did you see the photo of fifas boardroom?
shit looks like something from a bond movie

 

[edro]

I can't click the link. It isn't blue and underlined.

 

[SSSnail]

I can't click the link. It isn't blue and underlined.

I linked it just for you, and later, I'll tuck you in and sing your favorite lullabies.

 

[Anubis]

I linked it just for you, and later, I'll tuck you in and sing your favorite lullabies.

no you didn't

I however did

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/27/football/fifa-corruption-charges-justice-department/index.html

 

[SSSnail]

no you didn't

I however did

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/27/football/fifa-corruption-charges-justice-department/index.html

This is why we need that ginormous cookie emoticon, for instances like these.

Here, have one :bigcookie:

 

[PingviN]

Don't worry, there are plenty of old slimeballs that will now take the stage.

 

[smackababy]

I don't know much about the governing body of pro soccer, but I'm always happy to see a scumbag corrupt official get taken down hard.

It has been suggested to their president (Sep Blatter) that he should never set foot on US soil, as the investigations have given the FBI enough cause to arrest him on site. This is the man currently running for reelection of FIFA after being in charge for 17 year. FIFA is easily the most corrupt organization in the world.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Don't worry, there are plenty of old slimeballs that will now take the stage.

Yeah, but they're different old slimeballs. That's what American politics teaches us, when the current slimeballs do something too slimeball-ish you can get new slimeballs to replace them.

 

[mmntech]

None of this would have happened had activists not started pressuring sponsors over the gross human rights violations in Qatar.

I doubt any of these assholes will actually see jail time though.

 

[Homerboy]

John Oliver did a great piece on FIFA. It's crazy how corrupt and how much money they have on hand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlJEt2KU33I

 

[SSSnail]

It has been suggested to their president (Sep Blatter) that he should never set foot on US soil, as the investigations have given the FBI enough cause to arrest him on site. This is the man currently running for reelection of FIFA after being in charge for 17 year. FIFA is easily the most corrupt organization in the world.

The Swiss are also running a parallel probe, probably seizing assets, extradition, etc...

 

[smackababy]

None of this would have happened had activists not started pressuring sponsors over the gross human rights violations in Qatar.

I doubt any of these assholes will actually see jail time though.

Eh, apparently, the FBI has been investigating this for a long time. I believe I read somewhere, 22 year on going investigation.

 

[mmntech]

John Oliver did a great piece on FIFA. It's crazy how corrupt and how much money they have on hand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlJEt2KU33I

They're probably the second most corrupt NGO in the world only after the International Olympic Committee. So much for being the "beautiful game."

If democratic countries were smart, they'd stop bidding on international sporting events. Let the dictators get screwed over.

 

[andylawcc]

is it a fact that almost all host country lose money in either WC and Olympic?

 

[smackababy]

They're probably the second most corrupt NGO in the world only after the International Olympic Committee. So much for being the "beautiful game."

If democratic countries were smart, they'd stop bidding on international sporting events. Let the dictators get screwed over.

I don't think it would cost developed countries as much as it does the crappy ones. Look at the US. We have most of the infrastructure for the World Cup already. We have large stadiums and networks set up to handle large sporting events. It would benefit US soccer a lot and businesses would benefit, as we already have the stadiums. Countries that don't have this set up get massively screwed (except for maybe Qatar, as they got money to burn, for now). Brazil is going to be hurt. South Africa felt it hard. It doesn't offer them any benefit to host this, in rational eyes. But, of course, it isn't about economics. It is about pride.

Plus, South Africa and Qatar can qualify for the World Cup finals without being the host nation!

is it a fact that almost all host country lose money in either WC and Olympic?

Likely. I don't think numbers are every officially published though. Brazil spend like $3 billion on 2014 and Russia is estimated to be spending $5 billion. There likely won't generate that back. Even if the US spend $1 or $2 billion, it wouldn't likely make money from the game itself. Rather, it would grow a sport that would eventually "make" that money back and it wouldn't exactly ruin the economy.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

is it a fact that almost all host country lose money in either WC and Olympic?

Almost all? Yes. But it's possible that if things are done right an Olympics can turn a profit. Los Angeles did it in 1984, mostly by using existing venues and not wasting tons of money on building white elephant stadiums. It also helped that there were no rival bidders, so they got it on the cheap. Supposedly Barcelona turned a profit too and more importantly that city went from struggling to revitalized and became a major tourist destination. That was a MAJOR home run, probably the most successful Olympics ever. And that's the problem. The fact that it *can* be done leads everyone to think that they're the ones to make it happen again. So they over promise, over spend and lose a fortune.

 

[mmntech]

I don't think it would cost developed countries as much as it does the crappy ones. Look at the US. We have most of the infrastructure for the World Cup already. We have large stadiums and networks set up to handle large sporting events. It would benefit US soccer a lot and businesses would benefit, as we already have the stadiums. Countries that don't have this set up get massively screwed (except for maybe Qatar, as they got money to burn, for now). Brazil is going to be hurt. South Africa felt it hard. It doesn't offer them any benefit to host this, in rational eyes. But, of course, it isn't about economics. It is about pride.

It's not so much infrastructure but other outrageous demands organizations like the IOC and FIFA place on host countries.

The 2022 Winter Olympics is a good example of this. After the Sochi debacle, every democratic country retracted their bids. Now only China and glorious Kazakhstan are still in the running. Only non-democratic countries are bidding because their citizens have no say.

Large international sporting events also rarely bring in lasting economic benefits these days. The always end up spending significantly more than they ever take in. Which is why I've been strongly opposed to the Pan Am games here in Toronto this year.

 

[andylawcc]

The 2022 Winter Olympics is a good example of this. After the Sochi debacle, every democratic country retracted their bids. Now only China and glorious Kazakhstan are still in the running. Only non-democratic countries are bidding because their citizens have no say.

Large international sporting events also rarely bring in lasting economic benefits these days. The always end up spending significantly more than they ever take in. Which is why I've been strongly opposed to the Pan Am games here in Toronto this year.

sounds like democracy ftw.

 

[MongGrel]

John Oliver did a great piece on FIFA. It's crazy how corrupt and how much money they have on hand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlJEt2KU33I

I must have missed that one.

Good stuff, like usual.

:biggrin:

I was going to put the Dr Strangelove War Room up myself, but he did it in the bit

 

[Red Squirrel]

It's not so much infrastructure but other outrageous demands organizations like the IOC and FIFA place on host countries.

The 2022 Winter Olympics is a good example of this. After the Sochi debacle, every democratic country retracted their bids. Now only China and glorious Kazakhstan are still in the running. Only non-democratic countries are bidding because their citizens have no say.

Large international sporting events also rarely bring in lasting economic benefits these days. The always end up spending significantly more than they ever take in. Which is why I've been strongly opposed to the Pan Am games here in Toronto this year.

Speaking of Sochi I wonder what happened to all the people who lost their houses. There was a bunch of houses near the area they decided to bulldoze. Imagine having cops forcing you out of your house only to have it bulldozed right there and then in front of you.

 

[smackababy]

It's not so much infrastructure but other outrageous demands organizations like the IOC and FIFA place on host countries.

The 2022 Winter Olympics is a good example of this. After the Sochi debacle, every democratic country retracted their bids. Now only China and glorious Kazakhstan are still in the running. Only non-democratic countries are bidding because their citizens have no say.

Large international sporting events also rarely bring in lasting economic benefits these days. The always end up spending significantly more than they ever take in. Which is why I've been strongly opposed to the Pan Am games here in Toronto this year.

The costs can be mitigated to help it not be a huge loss, and for something like the World Cup, really boost the domestic soccer league. Hell, the World Cup alone helped boost MLS. The thing about hosting it in the US (or England or Germany) is they already have large stadiums and infrastructure to support mass tourism. They are not spending billions on buildings.

 

[andylawcc]

i still wouldn't say MLS is a commercial success...

 

[sdifox]

There was an earlier thread that got moved to p&n