Fidel Castro dead at 90

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MajinCry

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I guess people are a bit upset that they weren't able to live like Jeffrey Epstein on the cheap, once Castro got into the fray.
 

kinev

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So, "no" on the intellectual honesty. Good to know.

Also, improper use of Goodwin's Law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

"Godwin's law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually appropriate.[9][10]"

So, ball is in your court to show how comparing one murderous dictator to another is inappropriate. Granted, there is a difference is absolute numbers, but the actions are similar. Per capita, they are close enough to draw comparison, making it an appropriate comparison.


Your modifications to my post don't because the comparison is not only bad but not even relevant.

Also, Goodwin's Law.
 

K1052

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So, ball is in your court to show how comparing one murderous dictator to another is inappropriate. Granted, there is a difference is absolute numbers, but the actions are similar. Per capita, they are close enough to draw comparison, making it an appropriate comparison.

If we didn't already deal with murderous dictators (plus their successors) and authoritarian regimes aplenty in politics and trade you might have a point. If you have to resort to "but Hilter" as the intellectual argument against US attitude and rapprochement with Cuba when taken in the context of our ties with other nations you've already lost the argument.
 

Abwx

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There's a better way to argue this. You had it in the first two paragraphs, but insulting someone's intelligence is not the way to go about it.

You are right on this one, i somewhat generalized injustly to this guy as if he was another Badshot...

Gaddafi? It's only when he wanted to abandon the dollar as his currency's backing, that the west denounced him as an evil man. Before that, he was our kinda guy.
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Indeed a good exemple of "evil" dictator...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiStDp_NcjQ

And the reaction of the criminal Clinton :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiStDp_NcjQ

We ll see what will be his deeds, but for the time Trump deserved to win the presidency against this beast in disguise...
 

Jhhnn

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Americans denouncing Castro as an evil dictator, when these same lads prop up the USA as some paragon of morality (spoiler: it's quite the opposite) is just pathetic. Must we take a look at the horrific examples of humanity that the USA personally provided for?

Saddam Hussein? USA's bedboy.

Osama Bin Laden? He was your freedom fighter, before the USA decided to turn on him.

Gaddafi? It's only when he wanted to abandon the dollar as his currency's backing, that the west denounced him as an evil man. Before that, he was our kinda guy.

Pinochet? USA loves them some overthrowing of democracy.

Considering how bad the US rallied against Castro, and the evil that Castro had overthrown...I'm not exactly going to trust Mr. Big Bad calling the little guys names.

You don't have to embellish with bullshit to make the point that the US is hypocritical about tyranny. Saddam was fine until he attacked Kuwait. Osama was fine until his group started attacking outside Afghanistan. Gaddafi was never fine other than briefly after giving the Bush Admin a propaganda coup over his supposedly advanced nuclear program. Everybody & their dog jumped his shit when the opportunity arose.

Cuba was one of several leftist wars of national liberation of the era- China, Vietnam & others. Cuba was basically part of America's colonialist empire, perhaps more so than even Panama. Fidel threw the Americans out & the people backed him. The more we tried to interfere the more they backed him. It would have turned out otherwise if that weren't true. Fidel was an inspirational leader with a virulent strain of ideology like Mao or Ho, right in our own backyard. Our own strongmen throughout Latin America were shitting bricks & still are.