ferric or ferrous?

[Yossarian]

If a piece of metal can be attracted by a magnet is it called ferric or ferrous?

 

[Jzero]

I guess technically it depends on the molecular structure whether it should be ferrous or ferric...

 

[VirginiaDonkey]

ferrous

ferromagnetic <- highly attracted to a magnet
paramagnetic <- slightly attracted to a magnet
nonferrous (or diamagnetic i think) <-not attracted to a magnet

 

[Yossarian]

thx

 

[Encryptic]

Save Ferris!

.....errrr, wrong thread.

😀

 

[bozo1]

he's a righteous dude...

 

[Howard]

What if it's not iron?

 

[MrPhelps]

Originally posted by: Howard
What if it's not iron?

Then it would non ferrous.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: MrPhelps

Originally posted by: Howard
What if it's not iron?

Then it would non ferrous.

Ex: PipBoy has a piece of cobalt. PipBoy: Is this piece of cobalt ferrous or ferric?

Do you see my confusion, now?

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: MrPhelps

Originally posted by: Howard
What if it's not iron?

Then it would non ferrous.

Ex: PipBoy has a piece of cobalt. PipBoy: Is this piece of cobalt ferrous or ferric?

Do you see my confusion, now?

Have you ever seen cobalt that was attracted to a magnet? 🙂

 

[Yossarian]

In fact I do have a lump of cobalt, I'm carving it into a likeness of Fidel Castro.

 

[tikwanleap]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: MrPhelps

Originally posted by: Howard
What if it's not iron?

Then it would non ferrous.

Ex: PipBoy has a piece of cobalt. PipBoy: Is this piece of cobalt ferrous or ferric?

Do you see my confusion, now?

Have you ever seen cobalt that was attracted to a magnet? 🙂

What about nickel? I think nickel is attracted to a magnet.

 

[OITLadyOwl]

Generally, ferric and ferrous are descriptions of how many electrons an iron atom has to lose to combine with another element. Example: FeCl3 would be known as Iron (III) Chloride or Ferric Chloride, due to the loss of 3 electrons to the chlorine, whereas Fe2O3 would be called Iron (II) Oxide, or Ferric Oxide

At least, that's what I remember from my chem lab last winter.

 

[Walleye]

ferum... i think, is the latin word for Iron.

the magnetic attributes that include the root word date from a time when we were stupid enough to think that everything magnetic had iron in it.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: tikwanleap

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: MrPhelps

Originally posted by: Howard
What if it's not iron?

Then it would non ferrous.

Ex: PipBoy has a piece of cobalt. PipBoy: Is this piece of cobalt ferrous or ferric?

Do you see my confusion, now?

Have you ever seen cobalt that was attracted to a magnet? 🙂

What about nickel? I think nickel is attracted to a magnet.

No, it is not.

 

[Walleye]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: tikwanleap

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: MrPhelps

Originally posted by: Howard
What if it's not iron?

Then it would non ferrous.

Ex: PipBoy has a piece of cobalt. PipBoy: Is this piece of cobalt ferrous or ferric?

Do you see my confusion, now?

Have you ever seen cobalt that was attracted to a magnet? 🙂

What about nickel? I think nickel is attracted to a magnet.

No, it is not.

as is my limited knowledge, anything that will conduct electricity will become magnetic if magnetized.. i think..

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Walleye

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: tikwanleap

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: MrPhelps

Originally posted by: Howard
What if it's not iron?

Then it would non ferrous.

Ex: PipBoy has a piece of cobalt. PipBoy: Is this piece of cobalt ferrous or ferric?

Do you see my confusion, now?

Have you ever seen cobalt that was attracted to a magnet? 🙂

What about nickel? I think nickel is attracted to a magnet.

No, it is not.

as is my limited knowledge, anything that will conduct electricity will become magnetic if magnetized.. i think..

It may be able to become magnetic(very slightly), but it will not be attratcted to a permanent magnet by itself..

 

[tikwanleap]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Walleye

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: tikwanleap

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: MrPhelps

Originally posted by: Howard
What if it's not iron?

Then it would non ferrous.

Ex: PipBoy has a piece of cobalt. PipBoy: Is this piece of cobalt ferrous or ferric?

Do you see my confusion, now?

Have you ever seen cobalt that was attracted to a magnet? 🙂

What about nickel? I think nickel is attracted to a magnet.

No, it is not.

as is my limited knowledge, anything that will conduct electricity will become magnetic if magnetized.. i think..

It may be able to become magnetic(very slightly), but it will not be attratcted to a permanent magnet by itself..

Nickel is ferro-magnetic

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: MrPhelps

Originally posted by: Howard
What if it's not iron?

Then it would non ferrous.

Ex: PipBoy has a piece of cobalt. PipBoy: Is this piece of cobalt ferrous or ferric?

Do you see my confusion, now?

Have you ever seen cobalt that was attracted to a magnet? 🙂

I've seen a cobalt with an amusing bad temper.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: tikwanleap

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Walleye

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: tikwanleap

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: MrPhelps

Originally posted by: Howard
What if it's not iron?

Then it would non ferrous.

Ex: PipBoy has a piece of cobalt. PipBoy: Is this piece of cobalt ferrous or ferric?

Do you see my confusion, now?

Have you ever seen cobalt that was attracted to a magnet? 🙂

What about nickel? I think nickel is attracted to a magnet.

No, it is not.

as is my limited knowledge, anything that will conduct electricity will become magnetic if magnetized.. i think..

It may be able to become magnetic(very slightly), but it will not be attratcted to a permanent magnet by itself..

Nickel is ferro-magnetic

Interesting, for some reason I thought it wasn't magnetic..

Oh well. 🙂

 

[MrPhelps]

I think its the Iron in the steel that makes it magnetic.