Fergie Olver, 80s tv host, big time pedo

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waggy

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Very creepy by today's standards, but was it at the time? I can't really say because I never saw the show back in the day, but it sure looks like most of those kids are pretty uncomfortable with it.

i don't think there was ever a time where it was ok for a stranger to be kissing young girls on the lips.

yes the kids sure looked uncomfortable. the 2nd girl really didn't want to at all but he kept pushing her to do it.
 
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I think we need a little more context than a few edited scenes put together to make him look bad.

I find it hard to imagine a context that would render his coercing 10-year-old girls with no relationship to him into kissing him on the lips normal behavior. He seems really really creepy to me.
 

dennilfloss

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We don't know if the guy was a pedophile but that display was creepy indeed. I agree that the label pedophile is thrown about too easily nowadays. I get called this as a joke way too often (once is too often in my book) just because of how I look and, though I rarely say it, it really hurts. However, this guy did coerce the little girls into getting kisses and he stole some too. He used his position of power to do this, something that would be called sexual harassment nowadays. The fact that the mothers did not react much might be because he was also in a position of power over them, being a television host (being on TV was a much bigger deal back then). Finally, people back then were less sensitized to clues about sexual behaviour and identity. For example, during the 60s my parents told me to not talk to strangers and definitely not go with them, mostly because there was a notorious pedophile in Quebec city called Léopold Dion who raped and killed children (and hanged for it). However, the same parents loved The Village People in 78-79 and never realized the band was gay (not that there's anything wrong with that) and neither did I. Ditto for Boy George at the peak of Culture Club's popularity. It just did not enter our mind (we just saw funnily dressed men) and I think the same applies for clues about child abuse. People simply did not think about it. In that sense, it was a more innocent time but now we can see and recognize clues. However, clues are just that and the guy may not have been a pedophile but his behaviour definitely was not kosher, particularly when the little girls expressed in no uncertain way that they did not want to kiss him.
 

DrPizza

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originally posted by dennilfloss
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Are you kidding?? You didn't figure out that the Village People were gay? You didn't figure out that Boy George was gay?! That's pretty naive. I was in middle school back then, and we pretty much had it figured out. Ditto Richard Dawson (Family Feud) being a creep - everyone knew that. I can't speak of the video in the OP, because the video has been removed.
 

dennilfloss

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Are you kidding?? You didn't figure out that the Village People were gay? You didn't figure out that Boy George was gay?! That's pretty naive. I was in middle school back then, and we pretty much had it figured out. Ditto Richard Dawson (Family Feud) being a creep - everyone knew that. I can't speak of the video in the OP, because the video has been removed.

Not kidding and here's the video elsewhere.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80967036/
 

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I find it hard to imagine a context that would render his coercing 10-year-old girls with no relationship to him into kissing him on the lips normal behavior. He seems really really creepy to me.

I bet one of those girls gave him the herp too. Little sluts.
 

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shortylickens

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Check my post above yours.

No I saw it, its just weird that any time theres something I really wanna watch on Youtube, they drop it immediately.
I guess people threaten them a lot with criminal charges or civil suits, so now they take it upon themselves to censor stuff.
 

TheWart

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wow, that is....weird to say the least. I scanned the show's wikipedia page and I didn't see anything about a controversy so I guess parents/viewers were fine with it lol
 

dennilfloss

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But you said: "Finally, people back then were less sensitized to clues about sexual behaviour and identity." I think people who didn't realize the Village People and Boy George were gay - hell, they flaunted their gayness - are in a very small minority.

You must remember that homosexuality was pretty much an underground phenomenon back then. It was not "in your face". In fact, it was actually illegal in Canada until the late 60s and police were doing raids in lesbian clubs for example. People were hiding their homosexuality in general and the turning point in North America's collective consciousness was Rock Hudson's illness and death in the early 80s. The signs that seem obvious now were not then. Many were like the secret handshake of masonry lore. Also, in French and vaudeville culture, there is a tradition of straight men earning a living as cabaret transvestites. Seeing a man perform in drag did not mean he was homosexual.