FEMA Asks Disaster Volunteers To Remove Clothing.....

Patranus

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The top officer for FEMA said one of the agency's videographers was "absolutely wrong" to ask Mississippi church volunteers not to wear religious T-shirts for a video about tornado cleanup.

Angelia Lott and Pamela Wedgeworth, who are sisters, told The Associated Press that the FEMA worker videotaping the cleanup on Saturday in the small town of Ebenezer asked them to do on-camera interviews but requested that they change out of their T-shirts because of a Salvation Army logo.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ihes1WKSwJEJxBrRMqTDLrxgX3QAD9FPLK5O0

Gotta love the federal government.

Whats that expression about looking a gift horse in the mouth?
 
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Miramonti

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"particularly the brunette with the double-D's please, you can change over here..."
 

Red Dawn

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If those volunteers were wearing shirts proclaim Islam as the way Patsanus wouldn't be complaining about them having to remove them.
 

Throckmorton

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Matthew 6:5 - 7

5. And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites [are]: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
 

palehorse

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If those volunteers were wearing shirts proclaim Islam as the way Patsanus wouldn't be complaining about them having to remove them.
Ironically, at the same time, the FEMA videographer wouldn't dare ask them to remove those either.

See how that works?
 

tk149

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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ihes1WKSwJEJxBrRMqTDLrxgX3QAD9FPLK5O0

Gotta love the federal government.

Whats that expression about looking a gift horse in the mouth?

Did you even read your own link?

The top officer for FEMA said one of the agency's videographers was "absolutely wrong" to ask Mississippi church volunteers not to wear religious T-shirts for a video about tornado cleanup.

Federal Emergency Management Agency Administrator Craig Fugate said in a statement issued Monday that the man's actions "in no way reflect FEMA's policies or priorities."
"The photographer in question was absolutely wrong," Fugate said.

Fugate also apologized to Crossgates Baptist and to the Salvation Army.

"We are proud of the work that is done by our volunteer and faith-based partners and we are proud to work side by side with them in disaster recovery efforts across the country," Fugate said. "FEMA is not the team, FEMA is only part of the team, and critical members of that team are the voluntary and faith-based organizations we work with every day."

Harper said Fugate told him the photographer had been fired.

The actions of one minor person in a large organization are not necessarily indicative of the policy of said organization.

Really, given all the government policies that you could find fault with, you picked this one? :rolleyes:
 

Red Dawn

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Really, given all the government policies that you could find fault with, you picked this one? :rolleyes:
Hey it's Patsanus, no faux outrage is to minor for him and his hysterical red assed wingnut brethren.
 

nutxo

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Matthew 6:5 - 7

5. And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites [are]: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

Huh.

Did Jesus mention wearing t shirts while helping in a disaster? All I see is stuff about prayer.

Myself I think the camera guy was a douche and a lot of people making a big deal over nothing. It's no big deal.
 

Fear No Evil

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Imagine if some church volunteer somewhere asked some black youths to dress a certain way. We'd probably be having congressional hearings by now.
 

piasabird

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When Mormons show up you will see helping hands T-shirts. They may be helping already. The day after the Haiti Earthquake, they rolled trucks full of relief aid accross the border. We just did not advertise it.
 

werepossum

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When Mormons show up you will see helping hands T-shirts. They may be helping already. The day after the Haiti Earthquake, they rolled trucks full of relief aid accross the border. We just did not advertise it.
Good for you. Wait - there are Dominican Republic Mormons? This I did not know.
 

Rainsford

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1/100, not even a blip on the "fake outrage o-meter".

You got to really want to feel the outrage. Equating one FEMA videographer, who was immediately reprimanded by the agency, with "the federal government" seems pretty ridiculous to me. But then again, I'm not engaged in a never ending, frantic search for things to be "outraged" about...
 

Throckmorton

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Huh.

Did Jesus mention wearing t shirts while helping in a disaster? All I see is stuff about prayer.

Myself I think the camera guy was a douche and a lot of people making a big deal over nothing. It's no big deal.

Yeah he was a douche, and he got fired. I'm just saying, if they were true Christians they wouldn't be showing off their religion. That is the whole point of what is in those Bible verses.
 

nonlnear

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Yeah he was a douche, and he got fired. I'm just saying, if they were true Christians they wouldn't be showing off their religion. That is the whole point of what is in those Bible verses.
No it's not. The passage is not about concealing one's religious identity at all. It's about refraining from conspicuous public displays of piety for their own sake. To say that Jesus was repudiating visible identifiers of one's faith is absolutely ludicrous. Visible identifiers of religion (as well as religious caste) were everywhere in the culture of the time and are not repudiated. Jesus himself is said to have worn a seamless garment which served as a permanent signifier of his religious station to everyone he encountered everywhere. The historicity and/or factuality of the claims isn't even relevant here as the discussion is about what the text can reasonably be seen to be teaching - and the text definitely does NOT say that one should avoid publicly identifying one's faith. :rolleyes:
 

JS80

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"All he said was, 'We've done that hundreds of times,'" Lott said.

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Wedgeworth said of the photographer's request: "It kind of hurt my feelings. I think I made the comment, 'I think that's the reason we're all here, is by faith.'"

Is the photographer expecting the darwinist society or atheist groups to be in there helping?
 

Schadenfroh

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1. The cameraman was out of line for requesting the removal of Salvation Army shirts.
2. I do not think he should have been fired if he promised not to make such silly requests in the future.