Feds Warn About Medical Marijuana

[bfdd]

Thats it? That was the power grab over 200 years? lol. Please give more examples if you want me to believe that the government exists to grow its power.

Patriot act. That thing the side you chose to fight for hated yet voted to extend. That's just a big one of recent memory.

 

[JSt0rm]

Thats all fine and dandy. The way ducati put it was more of a evil menace that wanted to slowly strangle everyone. I notice he hasnt returned to this thread to back that kind of talk up.

 

[bfdd]

Thats all fine and dandy. The way ducati put it was more of a evil menace that wanted to slowly strangle everyone. I notice he hasnt returned to this thread to back that kind of talk up.

It is slowly strangling people. Evil menace? No.

 

[Kadarin]

Please give me a list of the "powers"

There's really just one big one, and that was the reinterpretation by the Supreme Court of the Commerce Clause in the 1930s, thus giving the Federal Government the power to regulate pretty much anything. From that point on, "freedom" becomes a joke.

 

[JSt0rm]

how are you restrained? I know the drug issue we are in agreement but how else?

 

[DucatiMonster696]

Riots would have occurred if the feds stepped in to take action after the "good" people of California, which I am one of, voted to legalize marijuana. We riot over our sports teams winning, we tried to destroy the city over a black man being beat, you honestly think we'd sit idly by as a people if the feds came in and did something like that? It probably would have got pretty bad.

Yes they would because it would be dragged into the courts and then forgotten. Once the decision was made it would be made in favor of the feds due to the commerce clause which has already established via previous court rulings as giving the Feds the power to regulate marijuana at a federal level.

Add in federal tax dollars which are specifically tied into the state's budget based on California's cooperation on the "WoD" (from school health services funding to law enforcement, etc) which the state depends on to provide and supplement some expanded basic and additional state services then you can see just how they have California and any other state by the balls with this issue. In fact that was the main jist of the threat being leveled by this administration and justice department if prop 9 had passed, "Pass this law and we'll fight you in court and pull your federal funding."

 

[pcgeek11]

Last time I checked it is still against Federal law, regardless of what the state says.

 

[OutHouse]

Bullshit prohibition. Morons would make more money legalizing and taxing industry + sales vs imprisoning people and taking away their livelihood. How can anyone have an issue with that? It'd be even better if ALL drugs were legal.

Prescription drugs are not taxed, neither should mmj

 

[fskimospy]

Wow Obama, way to be progressive!

Instead, Obama should be a conservative candidate, the type of which OCGuy regularly defends or endorses. Surely this person will adopt the true position of liberty, and legalize marijuana.

That is unless our good friends on the right here are complaining that our elected officials are not progressive enough? (of course they aren't, they are not pro-rational policy, they are anti-Obama because he isn't on their political sports team)

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Thats it? That was the power grab over 200 years? lol. Please give more examples if you want me to believe that the government exists to grow its power.

Patriot ACT
DHS
all of this

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/

Do you read the newspaper? There is pretty much something new on the table every week and or day.

 

[piasabird]

Anyone is an idiot if they believe O'Bamah is a conservative candidate. Of course maybe there are a lot of brainwashed by the media people who live under a rock.

I think Medical Marijuana is a big lie. I would rather see it legalized. Maybe there would be less illegal activity if it was just legal. That way the government could control it, farmers could grow it and then tax it. I still would not use it, and people would still go to the jail or get ticketed for driving under the influence, because then it would just be a legal drug like alcohol.

I still say the Feds would have to legalize it. I think not having cops chase people with one marijuana cigarrette would make life easier for the police and maybe people would not be shooting each other to sell and buy it.

I have a friend who was arrested for possession of marijuana when he was younger and they charged him with a felony. It has been on his record and haunted him all his life because he was a convicted felon. It is just not worth pursuing. I think he at least deserves equal treatment under the law.

 

[bfdd]

Prescription drugs are not taxed, neither should mmj

Booze is taxed l. Everything should be treated like booze, regardless of physical medical benefits.

 

[ShawnD1]

Booze is taxed l. Everything should be treated like booze, regardless of physical medical benefits.

In other words you want marijuana to be taxed at a rate of twenty billion percent? The price would probably go up instead of down.

Alcohol for drinking is almost pure tax. If you live in one of those parts in the US that sells E85, then you already know what a gallon of 85% ethanol costs when there's no sin tax on it. Maybe $4-5? How much does drinking ethanol cost in your area? Maybe $10-20 for a quarter of a gallon? What the fuck is that bullshit?

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Booze is taxed l. Everything should be treated like booze, regardless of physical medical benefits.

-MJ should be subject to all the restrictions that both Alcohol and tobacco are subject to. Can't do it in public, can't do it in smoke free zones, severe restrictions on advertising, must have a grower's permit from the government and must be grown in appropriately zoned areas, cannot be sold to anyone below 21, DUI convictions etc etc etc

But it should be legal, no questions asked.

As for harder drugs... baby steps, start with the lowest hanging fruit and work up if we really have to.

 

[OutHouse]

Booze is taxed l. Everything should be treated like booze, regardless of physical medical benefits.

Everything? So no insuilin, antibiotics or chemo for those under 21?

 

[ShawnD1]

Everything? So no insuilin, antibiotics or chemo for those under 21?

Nope. If you have diabetes under 21, you should go ahead and die already.

Weed should be in the same category as amphetamine. It's totally cool to take it as long as some guy you don't know says it's cool :thumbsup:
promotional video

 

[woolfe9999]

Legalize it, period. It is a profound hypocrisy that we criminalize pot while a myriad of more harmful drugs are flat out legal over the counter or available by prescription. Pot is one of the *least* harmful mind altering drugs known to man.

I'm disappointed in this administration on this issue. It seemed promising at first but over the past year they have been moving more toward the typical GOP stance on it.

 

[bfdd]

In other words you want marijuana to be taxed at a rate of twenty billion percent? The price would probably go up instead of down.

Alcohol for drinking is almost pure tax. If you live in one of those parts in the US that sells E85, then you already know what a gallon of 85% ethanol costs when there's no sin tax on it. Maybe $4-5? How much does drinking ethanol cost in your area? Maybe $10-20 for a quarter of a gallon? What the fuck is that bullshit?

Obviously I could have expanded further, I meant just legality with some restrictions based on "age" and some "taxes" so the government can generate revenue. ALL drugs should be legal OTC.