Fedora Core 3 out today

mattg1981

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I searched for this topic, but couldnt find it. Fedora core 3 made available today ... I am downloading the torrent now :)
 

InlineFive

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Thanks for the info. I'd like to see if the bug with ATI cards is fixed in this release. :)
 

mattg1981

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didnt know there was one ... I had an nvidia card for fc2 .. but now have an ATI card. Hope the problem isnt big, but I dont game under linux, I just program ....

I have been waiting a long time for this release because of the 2.6.9 kernel ... I couldnt install under fc2 because of my SATA drive ...
 

Armitage

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Cool. It'd be nice if they had release notes, or a package list for Core 3 posted though.
At least I couldn't find it.
 

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anybody know if it is easier to dual boot with winxp? i could never get fedora core 2 to work with XP.
 

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Originally posted by: mattg1981
didnt know there was one ... I had an nvidia card for fc2 .. but now have an ATI card. Hope the problem isnt big, but I dont game under linux, I just program ....

I have been waiting a long time for this release because of the 2.6.9 kernel ... I couldnt install under fc2 because of my SATA drive ...

I have a 9600 Pro and all of the previous releases have failed to start X-Windows because of errors with the integrated drivers and timings.
 

mattg1981

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Originally posted by: kcthomas
anybody know if it is easier to dual boot with winxp? i could never get fedora core 2 to work with XP.

I never had any problems ... I always installed XP first and then FC2 and there were no problems
 

mattg1981

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Originally posted by: Darien
5 hours left using torrent. hoping to see reviews soon

yeah .. I havnt been able to find any reviews yet either ..
I am downloading the DVD torrent and getting like a max of 35 - 45 kb/s .... it is gonna take a while :( ... I am uploading faster than I am downloading :(
 

drag

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That sucks. It should take off after a half hour or so of downloading.

Me right now:
| file: heidelberg-binary-i386 |
| size: 2,467,681,047 (2.3 GB) |
| dest: /home/drag/download/heidelberg-binary-i386 |
| progress: ################################################################## |
| status: download succeeded! |
| speed: 0 B/s down - 60.4 KB/s up |
| totals: 2.3 GB down - 778.2 MB up |
| error(s):

:) (using btdownloadcurses.)

So I obviously been downloading a hell of a lot quicker then I was uploading. Maybe people using DVD tend to be leechers? (I'll be seeding all night, and maybe tomorrow. Depends when I wake up. These are the cdrom iso images.)

I was getting around 258 or so KB/s downloads on my cable line. (ISP rates it at 3Gb/s download and 512Kb/s upload, good stuff.)

I'll think I'll try it out on a old 800mhz Celeron/256MB/Nvidia gforce2-GTS-V machine and see how it acts under slightly older hardware.
 

mattg1981

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my lord ... I still cant install Linux on my new box. I am running the Intel 925X Express chipset (with a SATA HD) and it wont detect the HD and thus wont allow me to install Linux. Does anybody know of a distro that will support this? FC3 has the latest kernel, so I dont think there is a fix for this, I just have to continue to wait :(
 

drag

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Well I looked around for information on the 925 support in Linux and I found stuff like this:
http://www.micronux.com/catalo...ct.php?products_id=176

So I guess they are able to install it on their computers.

So I went to fedora's forum and found this thread:
http://www.fedoraforum.org/for...438&highlight=925x

Intel is usually good with Linux and drivers. They do a lot of server stuff and Linux is very popular platform in that arena (unlike desktop) so once people start selling Linux servers with intel stuff in it then you'll get your chipset fully supported.

That 925x motherboard, that still has PATA, right? You could temporarially install Fedora on a older harddrive and then when driver supports gets out of experimental stage and into the vanilla or Fedora kernel you could copy the install over to your faster drives if you want. (or keep the OS on the older drive and your /home on the bigger drive, whatever.) I'd bet that you'd have PATA support...
 

mattg1981

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I do have PATA support .. just no PATA drives :(

Funny thing is, during installation (up to the part that I could get to) It detected my X800 XT PCI-e card correctly, and alot of other people said they had problems with PCI-e support.

I wonder if it will detect my PATA drives (assuming I get one) because that is still supported by the ICH6 chipset, and that is what Linux is having trouble with right now.
 

mattg1981

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btw .. that computer in the link you gave claims it is on a SATA drive as well .. I emailed them and I will let you guys know what they have to say as far as which distro they pre-install on it
 

duragezic

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So what is better about FC3? I finally got around to and got linux working dual boot with FC2 so I kinda wanna keep this install now!
 

drag

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It's just a newer version. Newer versions of programs.

For example Fedora Core2 uses Gnome 2.6 and X.org X server 6.8.0.

Fedore Core3 uses Gnome 2.8 and X.org X server 6.8.1

Some improvements of X.org 6.8.0 over 6.8.1 include better drivers support. It has support for new X extensions such as X Damage and X composite (disabled by default, but it allows REAL transparencies).

some improvements of gnome 2.8 over 2.6 include usability refinements. Better mime detection. Evolution 2.0 as the default e-mail client. Support for Vector-based SVG graphics in games and such (check out the solitare games for instance. When you change the sizes of the Windows the cards change sizes automaticly to fit well. With the Gnome 2.6 if you changed the size of the windows the cards remain the same size. There is also initial partial support for things like HAL and Dbus, which in future versions will allow tighter integration of applications and allow applications to respond to hardware changes.

for instance if you have a handycam or whatever and plug it into the firewire port you could potentionally have a video editing application start right up. Or allow easier burning of cdroms without having to have administrator rights (either thru logging in as root or using suid bits). Well that's the idea, you just have the groundwork supported right now.


Just lots of little things. Of course since it's a brand new OS your going to have bugs popping up here and there. Also it's going to take a while for people to build and test new packages for it, so the application support is going to be lacking for a while.

So there is probably no compelling reason to upgrade right now. Wait a couple months until you get comfortable and then when your ready just download the cdroms and perform a upgrade to the new version. It's usually pretty painless and Fedora/Redhat makes sure that a upgrade is a real upgrade and that you will have full functionality that is provided by Fedora Core3.

Just aviod installing lots of third party RPM's from random websites and such. These will cause the most issues. Check out package handlers like apt or yum and use that to make your life MUCH MUCH easier (still use the cdroms/dvds for upgrading OS version numbers though).

However for anybody still using fedora core1, it's definately time to ugprade. Also Fedora is on a 6 month release cycle, so keep that in mind.
 

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Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: Armitage
Can anybody running it tell me what version of MySQL it ships with?

nm/found it. Still 3.23 :roll:

I always build my servers from source, but it's surprisingly that they're being that conservative in Fedora. Oh well, I use Postgresql anyway. (-;

For those running servers under Fedora Core 3, you might find this document on configuring Apache to work under SElinux useful. Mandatory access control is quite different from what people are accustomed to.
http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-apache-fc3/
 

Netopia

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Can't upgrage from FC2 on my server. I get HD geometry errors. Did some Googling and found that I'm by no means alone in this. It appears that FC3 does some things that make it MUCH more stringent about partitioning. I hope this is something that they can fix since I don't want to have to rebuild the server from scratch.

Joe
 

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Originally posted by: duragezic
So what is better about FC3? I finally got around to and got linux working dual boot with FC2 so I kinda wanna keep this install now!

If you have a working FC2 and satissfied with it's configs keep it :)
But if you are hungry for bleeding edge packages, upgrade to FC3, i'm still using FC2 on my laptop :)