Fedor Emelainenko, the best mma fighter ever?

[davew0670]

Originally posted by: StevenYoo
Fedor is an unstoppable BEAST.

Not even CroCop could take that guy down

Yep, Crocop took a beating by Fedor. If there is someone better than Fedor right now, Im not sure who it is.

 

[LS20]

Originally posted by: paulxcook


I've only seen highlights from that fight, so maybe I don't have the full picture, but it didn't seem like Cro Cop was all that close. Fedor seemed pretty dominant.

no one had gone that long with fedor, and fedor admitted that was his toughest match

 

[paulxcook]

Originally posted by: LS20

Originally posted by: paulxcook


I've only seen highlights from that fight, so maybe I don't have the full picture, but it didn't seem like Cro Cop was all that close. Fedor seemed pretty dominant.

no one had gone that long with fedor, and fedor admitted that was his toughest match

Sure. I would put Cro Cop in the 2nd tier of MMA, under Fedor, who is in a class by himself. So yes, I'm sure he gave Fedor his greatest challenge. I just don't think Fedor was ever in any real danger during the match.

 

[ScottFern]

I was watching some of Fedor's videos on youtube and he is definitely a BA!

 

[WT]

I saw the Cro Cop - Fedor match and it wasn't that close. It was just the fact that Fedor didn't land any of those jackhammer rights that would have ended it in a hurry. Cro Cop was constantly backpedaling to stay away from them and hoping to counterpunch when he needed distance. He never could snap off that kick to the head he wanted.

The Pride commentators even said the hardest hit they'd witnessed ringside was the headshot kick that Cro Cop delivered to Fedor in a match, and Fedor not only didn't shrug or shake it off, he simply plodded forward to throw another right. My guess is Fedor's greatest challenge would be against his brother who is just as big but not yet as polished.

 

[ATLien247]

Link to full video of Fedor versus CroCop?

 

[thegimp03]

The crocop/fedor fight was awesome...you can find it on youtube.

 

[lozina]

At the end of the fight, CroCop came out looking alright- Fedor's face looked like he took a severe beating.

 

[StevenYoo]

Originally posted by: lozina
At the end of the fight, CroCop came out looking alright- Fedor's face looked like he took a severe beating.

i'm sure that's not much of a consolation to CroCop

 

[TheNinja]

A lot of misinformation here and some good information though.

1. Fedor is the best MMA fighter in the world right now without a doubt
2. Royce Gracie would last 10 seconds with Fedor if he was lucky. Even Royce in his prime wouldn't last more than 30 seconds. When Royce fought, nobody knew about takedowns or BJJ.
3. CroCop would not take Fedor down b/c CroCop is a standup fighter, he has no reason to take anybody down. Fedor is nearly impossible to takedown and keep there though. And if you do take him down he can submit you from the bottom with an armbar or kimura.
4. Fedor is a class act.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: TheNinja
A lot of misinformation here and some good information though.

1. Fedor is the best MMA fighter in the world right now without a doubt
2. Royce Gracie would last 10 seconds with Fedor if he was lucky. Even Royce in his prime wouldn't last more than 30 seconds. When Royce fought, nobody knew about takedowns or BJJ.
3. CroCop would not take Fedor down b/c CroCop is a standup fighter, he has no reason to take anybody down. Fedor is nearly impossible to takedown and keep there though. And if you do take him down he can submit you from the bottom with an armbar or kimura.
4. Fedor is a class act.

I think everyone here agrees with what you just said. Crocop needs to keep a certain distance from fedor to launch those head kicks.

 

[StevenYoo]

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: TheNinja
A lot of misinformation here and some good information though.

1. Fedor is the best MMA fighter in the world right now without a doubt
2. Royce Gracie would last 10 seconds with Fedor if he was lucky. Even Royce in his prime wouldn't last more than 30 seconds. When Royce fought, nobody knew about takedowns or BJJ.
3. CroCop would not take Fedor down b/c CroCop is a standup fighter, he has no reason to take anybody down. Fedor is nearly impossible to takedown and keep there though. And if you do take him down he can submit you from the bottom with an armbar or kimura.
4. Fedor is a class act.

I think everyone here agrees with what you just said. Crocop needs to keep a certain distance from fedor to launch those head kicks.

sorry if I used the wrong phrase. I meant "take down" as in "defeating."

My mistake for using an actual MMA phrase in that context!

 

[TheNinja]

Originally posted by: StevenYoo

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: TheNinja
A lot of misinformation here and some good information though.

1. Fedor is the best MMA fighter in the world right now without a doubt
2. Royce Gracie would last 10 seconds with Fedor if he was lucky. Even Royce in his prime wouldn't last more than 30 seconds. When Royce fought, nobody knew about takedowns or BJJ.
3. CroCop would not take Fedor down b/c CroCop is a standup fighter, he has no reason to take anybody down. Fedor is nearly impossible to takedown and keep there though. And if you do take him down he can submit you from the bottom with an armbar or kimura.
4. Fedor is a class act.

I think everyone here agrees with what you just said. Crocop needs to keep a certain distance from fedor to launch those head kicks.

sorry if I used the wrong phrase. I meant "take down" as in "defeating."

My mistake for using an actual MMA phrase in that context!

ahhh, gotcha - I agree then

 

[QueBert]

I think if Kevin Randleman was better at ground defense he could have beaten Fedor. That suplex he hit Fedor with was massive he just was unable to follow threw and when Fedor got him in a submission it was all over because Randleman doesn't have the best ground defense. That was an awesome match, the suplex was killer and for Fedor to recover from it was nothing short of a miracle.

CroCop MIGHT be able to take Fedor, 2 great fighters even if one is undefeated, the underdog still has a punchers chance.

 

[TheNinja]

Originally posted by: QueBert
I think if Kevin Randleman was better at ground defense he could have beaten Fedor. That suplex he hit Fedor with was massive he just was unable to follow threw and when Fedor got him in a submission it was all over because Randleman doesn't have the best ground defense. That was an awesome match, the suplex was killer and for Fedor to recover from it was nothing short of a miracle.

CroCop MIGHT be able to take Fedor, 2 great fighters even if one is undefeated, the underdog still has a punchers chance.

ya, that suplex was crazy. i can't believe fedor wasn't paralyzed and actually recovered in about 2 seconds. the only thing i remember seeing that was just as scary is when bob sapp put the piledriver on big nog. could have killed the dude.

 

[sisq0kidd]

Originally posted by: TheNinja

Originally posted by: QueBert
I think if Kevin Randleman was better at ground defense he could have beaten Fedor. That suplex he hit Fedor with was massive he just was unable to follow threw and when Fedor got him in a submission it was all over because Randleman doesn't have the best ground defense. That was an awesome match, the suplex was killer and for Fedor to recover from it was nothing short of a miracle.

CroCop MIGHT be able to take Fedor, 2 great fighters even if one is undefeated, the underdog still has a punchers chance.

ya, that suplex was crazy. i can't believe fedor wasn't paralyzed and actually recovered in about 2 seconds. the only thing i remember seeing that was just as scary is when bob sapp put the piledriver on big nog. could have killed the dude.

I don't think Randleman had a chance. Even with that suplex, it still looked like Fedor was in control.

The only time I can think of Fedor looking vulnerable was his match against Fujita where Fujita landed a solid punch and left Fedor with wobbly legs. Of course he recovered in 5 seconds and knocked Fujita out.

 

[waggy]

I am hopeing he comes to UFC.

 

[Shlong]

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd

Originally posted by: TheNinja

Originally posted by: QueBert
I think if Kevin Randleman was better at ground defense he could have beaten Fedor. That suplex he hit Fedor with was massive he just was unable to follow threw and when Fedor got him in a submission it was all over because Randleman doesn't have the best ground defense. That was an awesome match, the suplex was killer and for Fedor to recover from it was nothing short of a miracle.

CroCop MIGHT be able to take Fedor, 2 great fighters even if one is undefeated, the underdog still has a punchers chance.

ya, that suplex was crazy. i can't believe fedor wasn't paralyzed and actually recovered in about 2 seconds. the only thing i remember seeing that was just as scary is when bob sapp put the piledriver on big nog. could have killed the dude.

I don't think Randleman had a chance. Even with that suplex, it still looked like Fedor was in control.

The only time I can think of Fedor looking vulnerable was his match against Fujita where Fujita landed a solid punch and left Fedor with wobbly legs. Of course he recovered in 5 seconds and knocked Fujita out.

I remember that, Fedor got rocked but Fujita couldn't finish him. I like the Gracies but when they fought it was a different time, I just remember Sakuraba beating one of them just kicking one guy in the leg standing up.

 

[patentman]

He's good, but I bet cro cop would kick his butt

 

[sisq0kidd]

Originally posted by: patentman
He's good, but I bet cro cop would kick his butt

:Q

Wah! They fought already and Fedor won!

 

[patentman]

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd

Originally posted by: patentman
He's good, but I bet cro cop would kick his butt

:Q

Wah! They fought already and Fedor won!

I realize that just after I posted...

 

[TheNinja]

Originally posted by: Shlong

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd

Originally posted by: TheNinja

Originally posted by: QueBert
I think if Kevin Randleman was better at ground defense he could have beaten Fedor. That suplex he hit Fedor with was massive he just was unable to follow threw and when Fedor got him in a submission it was all over because Randleman doesn't have the best ground defense. That was an awesome match, the suplex was killer and for Fedor to recover from it was nothing short of a miracle.

CroCop MIGHT be able to take Fedor, 2 great fighters even if one is undefeated, the underdog still has a punchers chance.

ya, that suplex was crazy. i can't believe fedor wasn't paralyzed and actually recovered in about 2 seconds. the only thing i remember seeing that was just as scary is when bob sapp put the piledriver on big nog. could have killed the dude.

I don't think Randleman had a chance. Even with that suplex, it still looked like Fedor was in control.

The only time I can think of Fedor looking vulnerable was his match against Fujita where Fujita landed a solid punch and left Fedor with wobbly legs. Of course he recovered in 5 seconds and knocked Fujita out.

I remember that, Fedor got rocked but Fujita couldn't finish him. I like the Gracies but when they fought it was a different time, I just remember Sakuraba beating one of them just kicking one guy in the leg standing up.

ya, that had to be the closest anyone got to KOing Fedor. Hunt almost subbed him...NOT. Oh and Saku broke Royler (I think it was Royler) arm. And messed Renzo's up pretty bad too. Saku was nuts fighting everyone from Royer (150lbs) to Big Nog and CC (230 pounds).

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
The only time I can think of Fedor looking vulnerable was his match against Fujita where Fujita landed a solid punch and left Fedor with wobbly legs. Of course he recovered in 5 seconds and knocked Fujita out.

The Fedor/Fujita match was the closest ANYONE has ever come to beating Fedor. Let me tell you, Fujita rocked the sh!t out of Fedor, but instead of keeping it standing Fujita, out of reflex, just took him down. If he would have kept it standing Fujita may have knocked Fedor out.

And a little correction...Fedor didn't knock Fujita out (no one has). He just dropped him with a left hook and Fedor jumped on him and choked him out. There was no doubt Fujita was going to get back up and come right back at Fedor. Fujita is a freakin' MONSTER. He's like a nightmare. You keep punching him, and he keeps coming at you...HARD!

In the Cro-Cop/Fedor fight, it was all Fedor. Fedor had Cro-Cop on defense most of the time. And let me tell you, Cro-Cop never really landed a solid shot to the head. If you want to see a SOLID shot, check out Cro-Cop vs Mark Hunt. Cro-Cop lands a MONSTEROUS round house to Mark Hunt's head, SOLID! And Mark just looks like he said to himself, "motherfvcker!" And then answers back with HARD punches. Cro-Cop was like, "WTF? Why is this guy standing? And why the hell is he punching me in the face after that kick?!"

Mark Hunt stalks Cro-Cop
Watch after the round ends. It shows Cro-Cop land the MONSTER kick to Hunt's head and he just comes right back at Cro-Cop. Cro-Cop spends most of the time running away from Hunt.

 

[lyssword]

Originally posted by: WT
I saw the Cro Cop - Fedor match and it wasn't that close. It was just the fact that Fedor didn't land any of those jackhammer rights that would have ended it in a hurry. Cro Cop was constantly backpedaling to stay away from them and hoping to counterpunch when he needed distance. He never could snap off that kick to the head he wanted.

The Pride commentators even said the hardest hit they'd witnessed ringside was the headshot kick that Cro Cop delivered to Fedor in a match, and Fedor not only didn't shrug or shake it off, he simply plodded forward to throw another right. My guess is Fedor's greatest challenge would be against his brother who is just as big but not yet as polished.

Actually, he can easily win vs his bigger brother, I've seen a sambo (judo/wrestling type) of match between them, and Fedor won.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: lyssword

Originally posted by: WT
I saw the Cro Cop - Fedor match and it wasn't that close. It was just the fact that Fedor didn't land any of those jackhammer rights that would have ended it in a hurry. Cro Cop was constantly backpedaling to stay away from them and hoping to counterpunch when he needed distance. He never could snap off that kick to the head he wanted.

The Pride commentators even said the hardest hit they'd witnessed ringside was the headshot kick that Cro Cop delivered to Fedor in a match, and Fedor not only didn't shrug or shake it off, he simply plodded forward to throw another right. My guess is Fedor's greatest challenge would be against his brother who is just as big but not yet as polished.

Actually, he can easily win vs his bigger brother, I've seen a sambo (judo/wrestling type) of match between them, and Fedor won.

FYI, Cro-Cop knocked Fedor's brother out.