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Federal Protection of OBESE people.

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.

There are already laws against physical bullying. That only leaves verbal bullying to be curbed by "anti-bullying" laws. If fat fuckers don't like what people say about them, lose some damn weight. The first amendment gives me every right to call lardasses anything I want, and any "anti-bullying" legislation is unconstitutional.

Let me guess, your a 98 pound weakling?

Grow up.
 
Originally posted by: Worlocked
Yeah, too bad. Because when fucking retards like you relentlessly taunt the wrong fat guy and get knocked the F out, the fat guy will be the only one punished. That's justice for you...

Freedom of speech is protected. Violence is not. What's so hard to understand, fatty?
 
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.

There are already laws against physical bullying. That only leaves verbal bullying to be curbed by "anti-bullying" laws. If fat fuckers don't like what people say about them, lose some damn weight. The first amendment gives me every right to call lardasses anything I want, and any "anti-bullying" legislation is unconstitutional.

Let me guess, your a 98 pound weakling?

Grow up.

So you hate freedom of speech? I'm not surprised, you are a Democrat after all.
 
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.

There are already laws against physical bullying. That only leaves verbal bullying to be curbed by "anti-bullying" laws. If fat fuckers don't like what people say about them, lose some damn weight. The first amendment gives me every right to call lardasses anything I want, and any "anti-bullying" legislation is unconstitutional.

Let me guess, your a 98 pound weakling?

Grow up.

So you hate freedom of speech? I'm not surprised, you are a Democrat after all.

LOL, typical little 98 pound big mouth trying to put wpords in my mouth. 😛 You got nothing but a bad attitude and a big mouth. 😛
 
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: piasabird
How is this different from money spent on drug addictions and cancer caused by smoking cigarettes, or alcoholism?

The differrence is that you have to eat to live.

Sure you do....but you don't have to eat a whole large pizza in one sitting and wash it down with a 1/2 gallon of Mt. Dew.

you dont? Damn there goes my lunch. :|
 
Originally posted by: Shivetya
"This is an issue of basic civil rights," said Richardson. "There are no federal laws that protect obese Americans from discrimination in the workplace, school, or anywhere else. This must change."

Disgusting.

Another "victim" class. Instead of fixing the problem we are going to excuse them and PROTECT them. Hell, out of the 5 people at work with handicap tags only 2 have real problems, the other 3 are lardasses (400lb+ category)

He did good while governor, but what is up with him now ? Sorry, obese isn't a disability, its a sign of bad eating habits and lack of physical activity. Its worse than smoking.

ADA protection means that your medical insurance could go up at work as new procedures and medicines would have to be covered. Can't wait till some fatty with a lawyer friend starts suing prospective employers who turn them down under the suspicion that it only occured because they were fat.

Coddle instead of correct

You realize there's several studies associating obesity with mental illness right? Another garbage post by Shivetya.
 
I have to say half of you people are just incredible...You're no worse than homophobes or racists...you assume because someone is of a certain group that they are automatically trash...That's weak as hell.

I'll be the first to admit, I am fat. I joke about it all the time. I've tried to fix it in the past, but it's hard as hell. But I am far from "disabled" or any of the hateful crap you guys threw out on this topic. I play softball, I'm pretty damn good at it, I go hiking, I exercise in my own time. But I'm still fat. Grow up and learn to deal with people that are different than you.

And stop assuming just because someone is fat they are worthless. There's an extreme difference between "fat and lazy" and "fat".
 
Originally posted by: BoberFett
BigRig

If you're not disabled as a fat person, why do you need special protection?

I don't, not saying I do. All I'm saying is that the prejudice that i'm seeing here is just mind boggling.

EDIT: side note...if I was ever denied a job I was perfectly qualified for because I was fat, I'd be pissed. Again, I'm not disabled in any sense of the word, so there's no difference between me and Slim Jim 😛
 
I got kind of chunky for a while there (6'4" 235 lbs). So I exercised, ate better and lost weight (down to 200). Apparently I was doing it all wrong...I should have got an attorney and a counselor 🙂 A new protected class, fat middle aged white guys woo hoo! We finally figured it out!!

Sorry fat folks, you're one of the huge reasons healthcare is so expensive. We need to take a hard line against obesity wherever possible, we're literally eating ourselves to death. You're no different than anyone else and don't deserve any special protections whatsoever.
 
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I agree this is off base.

However I am not surprised P&Nrs of a certain persuasion miss the point that Corporations have brought this on themselves with their nefarious treatment of employees.

Yes, people need to take responsibility for overeating as well but it is the work environment and treatment also contributing to this disaster Republicans call "a global economy".

Tell you what Dave. I'll meet you at Tulsa International Airport this afternoon and buy you a one way ticket to anywhere in the world outside of the United States and North America. Anywhere...you name it. Only catch is that you have to stay gone.

WTF does this have to do with anything? They let you back in here to post this shit?

On topic: They already have the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 -

An individual with a disability is a person who:

* Has a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more major life activities;
* Has a record of such an impairment; or
* Is regarded as having such an impairment.

Wouldn't an obese person fit this criteria? Why the need for expansion of the language?
 
Originally posted by: teclis1023
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: teclis1023
The amount of taunting and derision that obese people face on a daily basis is sickening. True, there are steps to take to minimize obesity, but it doesn't mean that they should continually be subject to verbal abuse.

You guys call them lardasses and fatasses, and then wonder why they don't appreciate it...? What, do you think your 'constructive' comments are going to inspire them to slim down? It just makes them want to retreat further. I don't agree that they should have any more rights, or should get disabled parking, but I do believe that they should be protected under anti-bullying legislation.

Anti-bullying legislation....otherwise known as The Pussification Act of 2007.

Everyone gets teased and made fun of at some point in their life. That doesn't mean they have to bury their head in a bucket of chicken. All you are doing is giving these people another excuse for being the way they are.

Anti-Bullying legislation is in place to discourage and protect from intense verbal and physical harassment. Sure, everyone gets teased a bit, but some people are constantly preyed upon because of everything from their weight to religion to acne to whatever. Why is it acceptable that these people should be made to feel like shit? Gimme a break and grow up. I thought we were a civilized society.

Just because someone doesn't want to get his ass beat in the locker room doesn't mean he's a pussy, it just means that he doesn't want or deserve that treatment.

As for "giving these people another excuse for being the way they are"... you feel that we should point them out in the street and condemn them for being overweight? Sure, overeating is unhealthy, but treating people like shit isn't really an effective way of encouraging change. Only a bully sees the world this way.

If we lived in a civilized society we wouldn't need those kinds of laws.

I'm all for helping people that will help themselves. Perhaps free weight clinics where the obese can go to get their weight under control. As a taxpayer, I am in favor of those clinics as it's better to get their weight under control now preemptively as opposed to paying for triple bypasses and diabetes later. In the end, I will either pay for it through my private insurance company or through my taxes. I think this is how most people will rationalize their disgust for the obese. They are simply a drain on society.

At a more primitive level, it's likely that people view the obese as overindulging in a shared resource required by all in society (food). The overindulgence also makes them worthless in the pack sense as they can no longer move with the unit or help the unit obtain more resources. Hence, we have the freeloader problem. Primitive emotions probably tell us that these people are withdrawing great deals of resources from society while not being able to contribute. In the hunter-gatherer mindset, the obese serve no useful purpose. Now, we live in a society where the mind is one's most treasured and useful asset but our more primitive emotions are still right there near the surface, there can be no doubt of this. This is probably why an obese person illicits such a strongly negative and immediate response, much like seeing a fit girl wearing a bikini, etc.

There is only one thing of which we can be sure, something must be done. If the obesity epidemic cannot be brought under control then our society will be crushed under its own weight. We simply cannot afford generations of people that have such expensive health problems. We will go bankrupt or be forced to turn the obese away from medical care. This means that people will have to try to keep their weight under control through more exercise and lower consumption and it also means that employers will have to help as well. Example: this week alone I've only gotten a lunch hour once. I also had to work one night and I had a class the other and it's like this until the end of the semester. I simply do not have much time to eat. Now, I mostly eat cereal bars for lunch but there have been times where I simply picked up something to eat at a fast food restaurant. I regretted it and knew I shouldn't have done it but I simply didn't have the time to make food. Obviously, most of the blame would fall on me and my bad behavior, but companies will have to start taking this epidemic seriously. People need proper time to make a decent meal and eat it, especially if they have families so they can pass those good eating habits to their children. That's going to require people spending more time at home and less time in the office. In short, the obesity epidemic has several causes: lack of self-control, long and hectic work hours reducing the time available to make healthy meals and exercise, and easy access to high calorie food and drink.
 
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Shivetya
Coddle instead of correct

But the Gov't is our parent - they are supposed to coddle us...

:roll:

I need to find that Cleveland quote and put it in my sig. I'll post it here because I think it has a bit of relevance to this topic IIRC.

Well, it's not exactly about this subject as it came about when he vetoed a bill for emergency funds for texas after a drought. But here it is anyway since I dug it up.
"...I do not believe that the power and duty of the General Government ought to be extended to the relief of individual suffering which is in no manner properly related to the public service or benefit. A prevalent tendency to disregard the limited mission of this power and duty should, I think, be steadily resisted, to the end that the lesson should be constantly enforced that, though the people support the Government, the Government should not support the people." Grover Cleveland

Damn, if that is a valid quote, now I know why he lost that election.

 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Bober, do you suppose McDonalds installed the funnels and forgot to connect the pipes?

I can't speak for McDonalds, but I do know that every time I eat at White Castle they get as much out of me as they put in.
 
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