Federal Gov says that I didn't register for the draft...

[rudeguy]

My big dreams of going back to school may be over. I filled out the applications for federal student aid to see what kind of grants/loans I would be eligible for. The response was that I never registered for selective service, so they can't do anything for me.

I checked the website and it says that if you are over 26 (I'm 30), they can't do anything. Well what the hell? I remember filling out the little post card back when I was 17. I don't remember mailing it, but that was 13 years ago. I know that I did ALMOST enlist in the Army a couple years ago. I had gone through all the background checks and stuff and this never came up.

Has anyone ever had experience in dealing with something like this? I am kinda screwed right now

 

[olds]

Ask them how to appeal it.

 

[MrDudeMan]

The simple answer is you should have registered, but that doesn't help you.

 

[BoomerD]

Other than appeal as Oldsmoboat has mentioned, I don't know if there's much you can do.

Perhaps contact the Selective Service folks can help, although according to their website:

http://www.sss.gov/

"You want to protect yourself for future U.S. citizenship and other government benefits and programs by registering with Selective Service. Do it today."

"STUDENT FINANCIAL AID
Men, born after December 31, 1959, who aren't registered with Selective Service won't qualify for Federal student loans or grant programs. This includes Pell Grants, College Work Study, Guaranteed Student/Plus Loans, and National Direct Student Loans."

After your 26th birthday...if you didn't register per the law, you may just be screwed.

Honoring one's civic duty...FTW.

 

[yh125d]

The government automatically registered me for selective service. I never filled a card out, was in contact with the gvt, anything. I found out I was already signed up when I tried to do it myself a couple weeks after I turned 18 and it told me it was already done.

If the government automatically signs me up for it before I get a chance to do so on my own accord, doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of selective service?

 

[JDub02]

Originally posted by: yh125d
The government automatically registered me for selective service. I never filled a card out, was in contact with the gvt, anything. I found out I was already signed up when I tried to do it myself a couple weeks after I turned 18 and it told me it was already done.

If the government automatically signs me up for it before I get a chance to do so on my own accord, doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of selective service?

no, selective means they select you for service

i signed up way back when. now i'm too old to be drafted. there goes my chance of being the first one on my block to have a confirmed kill.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: JDub02

Originally posted by: yh125d
The government automatically registered me for selective service. I never filled a card out, was in contact with the gvt, anything. I found out I was already signed up when I tried to do it myself a couple weeks after I turned 18 and it told me it was already done.

If the government automatically signs me up for it before I get a chance to do so on my own accord, doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of selective service?

no, selective means they select you for service

i signed up way back when. now i'm too old to be drafted. there goes my chance of being the first one on my block to have a confirmed kill.

"Be the first one on your block to have your boy come home in a box!"
and it's one, two, three, what are we fighting for?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn, next stop is Vietnam..."

I was already enlisted in the USMC when I filled out my draft registration card...

 

[yh125d]

Originally posted by: JDub02

Originally posted by: yh125d
The government automatically registered me for selective service. I never filled a card out, was in contact with the gvt, anything. I found out I was already signed up when I tried to do it myself a couple weeks after I turned 18 and it told me it was already done.

If the government automatically signs me up for it before I get a chance to do so on my own accord, doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of selective service?

no, selective means they select you for service

i signed up way back when. now i'm too old to be drafted. there goes my chance of being the first one on my block to have a confirmed kill.

My point is, if they're able and willing to register for us without our consent (not that they need it), then what's the point in registering at all? I know my brothers were not automatically registered, they both had to register themselves

 

[TridenT]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
Other than appeal as Oldsmoboat has mentioned, I don't know if there's much you can do.

Perhaps contact the Selective Service folks can help, although according to their website:

http://www.sss.gov/

"You want to protect yourself for future U.S. citizenship and other government benefits and programs by registering with Selective Service. Do it today."

"STUDENT FINANCIAL AID
Men, born after December 31, 1959, who aren't registered with Selective Service won't qualify for Federal student loans or grant programs. This includes Pell Grants, College Work Study, Guaranteed Student/Plus Loans, and National Direct Student Loans."

After your 26th birthday...if you didn't register per the law, you may just be screwed.

Honoring one's civic duty...FTW.

Dieing in wars is not something I would like to be apart of.

 

[xochi]

I beleive you can request a waiver. The form should be on the Selective Service website or you could write a letter stating the circumstances on why you didnt register.

It may or may not be accepted.

 

[rudeguy]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
Other than appeal as Oldsmoboat has mentioned, I don't know if there's much you can do.

Perhaps contact the Selective Service folks can help, although according to their website:

http://www.sss.gov/

"You want to protect yourself for future U.S. citizenship and other government benefits and programs by registering with Selective Service. Do it today."

"STUDENT FINANCIAL AID
Men, born after December 31, 1959, who aren't registered with Selective Service won't qualify for Federal student loans or grant programs. This includes Pell Grants, College Work Study, Guaranteed Student/Plus Loans, and National Direct Student Loans."

After your 26th birthday...if you didn't register per the law, you may just be screwed.

Honoring one's civic duty...FTW.

Thats the thing though...as far as I knew, I did register. I never got drafted to find out for sure...

Wouldn't the Army have brought this up?

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Dieing in wars is not something I would like to be apart of.

It would seem that you also do not wish to be part of the group of people who paid attention in spelling class.

ZV

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Little did you know that there would be a 1/2 white, 1/2 black president in your lifetime, and the selective service age would jump to 32 years old and younger to draft people for the coming race war.

 

[looker001]

Originally posted by: yh125d

Originally posted by: JDub02

Originally posted by: yh125d
The government automatically registered me for selective service. I never filled a card out, was in contact with the gvt, anything. I found out I was already signed up when I tried to do it myself a couple weeks after I turned 18 and it told me it was already done.

If the government automatically signs me up for it before I get a chance to do so on my own accord, doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of selective service?

no, selective means they select you for service

i signed up way back when. now i'm too old to be drafted. there goes my chance of being the first one on my block to have a confirmed kill.

My point is, if they're able and willing to register for us without our consent (not that they need it), then what's the point in registering at all? I know my brothers were not automatically registered, they both had to register themselves

Government never registered me for selective service and i never did it my self. Yes i am technically in violation of the law.

 

[Steve]

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555

Originally posted by: BoomerD
Other than appeal as Oldsmoboat has mentioned, I don't know if there's much you can do.

Perhaps contact the Selective Service folks can help, although according to their website:

http://www.sss.gov/

"You want to protect yourself for future U.S. citizenship and other government benefits and programs by registering with Selective Service. Do it today."

"STUDENT FINANCIAL AID
Men, born after December 31, 1959, who aren't registered with Selective Service won't qualify for Federal student loans or grant programs. This includes Pell Grants, College Work Study, Guaranteed Student/Plus Loans, and National Direct Student Loans."

After your 26th birthday...if you didn't register per the law, you may just be screwed.

Honoring one's civic duty...FTW.

Dieing in wars is not something I would like to be apart of.

AFAIK there hasn't been a draft since Vietnam.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555

Dieing in wars is not something I would like to be apart of.

As zemmervolt already mentioned...apparently you are in need of remedial spelling classes...too bad that you have to register for the draft if you want any federal student aid...

I don't know anyone who enlists with the goal of dying in a war.

Enlisting with the goal of legally killing people...yes.

 

[rudeguy]

Originally posted by: xochi
I beleive you can request a waiver. The form should be on the Selective Service website or you could write a letter stating the circumstances on why you didnt register.

It may or may not be accepted.

I can't seem to find anything....lil help?

 

[allisolm]

"A registration acknowledgment card will arrive in the mail about 30 to 90 days after a man sends in his registration card. Keep this document in a safe place as proof of registration."

Did you get that card?

 

[rudeguy]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555

Dieing in wars is not something I would like to be apart of.

As zemmervolt already mentioned...apparently you are in need of remedial spelling classes...too bad that you have to register for the draft if you want any federal student aid...

I don't know anyone who enlists with the goal of dying in a war.

Enlisting with the goal of legally killing people...yes.

I was signing up to be an 11X. I wanted the highest risk factor.

<~~Has never been quite all there.

 

[dullard]

Good luck. You should have filled that out with each and every move - something that you've probably done several times in the last 13 years. So, you don't have any real excuse (ie you could explain that the first one got lost in the mail, but losing all the rest with each move you made will be really hard to explain). Best I can say is to just try registering now. It is probably automated and they might not notice that you are over 26. If it works, you'll be in their system but over 26 and not (currently) eligible for the draft.

 

[rudeguy]

Originally posted by: allisolm
"A registration acknowledgment card will arrive in the mail about 30 to 90 days after a man sends in his registration card. Keep this document in a safe place as proof of registration."

Did you get that card?

No clue. I was 17 and didn't pay attention to details. IIRC, my mom made me sign the card because of her Social Security. I moved out shortly after that and have no clue if I filled out a change of address thinger.

 

[yh125d]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555

Dieing in wars is not something I would like to be apart of.

As zemmervolt already mentioned...apparently you are in need of remedial spelling classes...too bad that you have to register for the draft if you want any federal student aid...

I don't know anyone who enlists with the goal of dying in a war.

Enlisting with the goal of legally killing people...yes.

My cousin joined the Army for the sole reason of wanting to find out what it feels like to kill a man. He hates the Army and can't wait to get out, but he'll stay in until he gets a kill. He's in Iraq right now

 

[rudeguy]

Originally posted by: dullard
Good luck. You should have filled that out with each and every move - something that you've probably done several times in the last 13 years. So, you don't have any real excuse (ie you could explain that the first one got lost in the mail, but losing all the rest with each move you made will be really hard to explain). Best I can say is to just try registering now. It is probably automated and they might not notice that you are over 26. If it works, you'll be in their system but over 26 and not (currently) eligible for the draft.

This I would have done! Does it come in the change of address packet from the post office? I know my voter registration got changed....maybe this did too?

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
Honoring one's civic duty...FTW.

Yeah, signing up for a constitutionally questionable draft. How civic minded. :roll:

 

[looker001]

Originally posted by: dullard
Good luck. You should have filled that out with each and every move - something that you've probably done several times in the last 13 years. So, you don't have any real excuse (ie you could explain that the first one got lost in the mail, but losing all the rest with each move you made will be really hard to explain). Best I can say is to just try registering now. It is probably automated and they might not notice that you are over 26. If it works, you'll be in their system but over 26 and not (currently) eligible for the draft.

Registering is stupid instead he should just fill out a waver form. His school should have such form available.