FDA wants to ban gay sperm donors

[nageov3t]

having actually RTFA'd now, it seems kind of stupid.

"Under these rules, a heterosexual man who had unprotected sex with HIV-positive prostitutes would be OK as a donor one year later, but a gay man in a monogamous, safe-sex relationship is not OK unless he's been celibate for five years."

 

[b0mbrman]

Would you accept sperm from a gay man?

Orally but probably not anally...yet

 

[Doboji]

this thread is misleading... the title question "Would you accept sperm from a gay man?" is very different than the poll question "Should gay men be allowed to donate sperm?".

I voted no... I would not accept sperm from a gay man, because I believe homosexuality is a genetic issue, and I would want my child to be able to have normal family at some point in his/her life.

However I do think gay men should be able to donate sperm.... and that the recipient should simply be informed at the time of donation.

-Max

 

[zixxer]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: armatron

Originally posted by: loki8481
I don't think the children of homosexuals are any more likely to be gay than children of heterosexuals.

in that case, it's a life choice and they need to stop 'acting' this way.

if it makes them happy and is not harmful to anyone outside of themselves, why should they stop 'acting' that way?

because donating disease-filled sperm is bad, mmkay.

also, if it isn't a "life choice" and is fact the whole chromosome difference-issue, then I wouldn't want fscked up sperm fathering my child.

 

[Argo]

Is that why rblowdoe was banned?

 

[DAGTA]

Take a look at the CDC's statistics if you don't believe that the gay lifestyle is much more prone to disease than a heterosexual lifestyle. It's not gay bashing, it's just the truth.

 

[zixxer]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: armatron

Originally posted by: loki8481
I don't think the children of homosexuals are any more likely to be gay than children of heterosexuals.

in that case, it's a life choice and they need to stop 'acting' this way.

How about you stop 'acting' straight for a month or two and let me know how that works out for you.

:roll:

my point is that it IS an inherited or mutated gene that causes homosexuality. I wouldn't want my child to lead a normal life.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: armatron
I wouldn't want my child to lead a normal life.

quoted for posterity 😛

jk

 

[Umberger]

Originally posted by: armatron

Originally posted by: loki8481
I don't think the children of homosexuals are any more likely to be gay than children of heterosexuals.

in that case, it's a life choice and they need to stop 'acting' this way.

if they're safe about it, then why do they need to stop acting that way? are they hurting you?

 

[Zim Hosein]

Aww... another cute little . 😛

 

[Howard]

I think there was something about a gene found recently that predisposes people to homosexuality.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Aww... another cute little . 😛

Have you tried letting one of those play in your "Start - Run" box? 😀

- M4H

 

[Umberger]

Originally posted by: DAGTA
Take a look at the CDC's statistics if you don't believe that the gay lifestyle is much more prone to disease than a heterosexual lifestyle. It's not gay bashing, it's just the truth.

that's perfectly fine, but what about people that don't have any diseases? there are most definitely responsible same sex couples out there.

 

[Zim Hosein]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Aww... another cute little . 😛

Have you tried letting one of those play in your "Start - Run" box? 😀

- M4H

I'm not falling for that trick M4H! 😀

 

[zixxer]

Originally posted by: Umberger

Originally posted by: armatron

Originally posted by: loki8481
I don't think the children of homosexuals are any more likely to be gay than children of heterosexuals.

in that case, it's a life choice and they need to stop 'acting' this way.

if they're safe about it, then why do they need to stop acting that way? are they hurting you?

wtf you don't get it do you.

The point is whether or not they should be allowed to donate sperm.

My point is that
1) Assuming it's NOT a life choice, that means that gays are gay because of genes. I actually think it was recently discovered that this is usually the case.

What's the horrible disease that is inherited?... parkinsons? no.. something.. where you brain literally dissolves from the inside out around 25yrs old... I don't remember... anyhow THEY shouldn't be allowed to donate sperm either... and neither should midgets... The point is that these genetic mutations, when they happen, are accepted... but society shouldn't PROMOTE these things

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: armatron

Originally posted by: Umberger

Originally posted by: armatron

Originally posted by: loki8481
I don't think the children of homosexuals are any more likely to be gay than children of heterosexuals.

in that case, it's a life choice and they need to stop 'acting' this way.

if they're safe about it, then why do they need to stop acting that way? are they hurting you?

wtf you don't get it do you.

The point is whether or not they should be allowed to donate sperm.

My point is that
1) Assuming it's NOT a life choice, that means that gays are gay because of genes. I actually think it was recently discovered that this is usually the case.

What's the horrible disease that is inherited?... parkinsons? no.. something.. I don't remember... anyhow THEY shouldn't be allowed to donate sperm either... and neither should midgets... The point is that these genetic mutations, when they happen, are accepted... but society shouldn't PROMOTE these things

that's totally not the point of the article, though.

the FDA is saying that because gay men are more at risk for std's, they need to be celebite for 5 years, as opposed to a straight male, who can donate sperm just 1 year after having unprotected sex with an hiv-positive prostitute.

 

[zixxer]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: armatron

Originally posted by: Umberger

Originally posted by: armatron

Originally posted by: loki8481
I don't think the children of homosexuals are any more likely to be gay than children of heterosexuals.

in that case, it's a life choice and they need to stop 'acting' this way.

if they're safe about it, then why do they need to stop acting that way? are they hurting you?

wtf you don't get it do you.

The point is whether or not they should be allowed to donate sperm.

My point is that
1) Assuming it's NOT a life choice, that means that gays are gay because of genes. I actually think it was recently discovered that this is usually the case.

What's the horrible disease that is inherited?... parkinsons? no.. something.. I don't remember... anyhow THEY shouldn't be allowed to donate sperm either... and neither should midgets... The point is that these genetic mutations, when they happen, are accepted... but society shouldn't PROMOTE these things

that's totally not the point of the article, though.

the FDA is saying that because gay men are more at risk for std's, they need to be celebite for 5 years, as opposed to a straight male, who can donate sperm just 1 year after having unprotected sex with an hiv-positive prostitute.

I do not see how you, (assuming to be an intelligent person) can honestly not mind that gay's are donating sperm. Even if you look at the disease-aspect only... they DO have more diseases. It's not an 'opinion' it's a fact. They have MORE diseases than the typical hetero who has sex with prostitutes, and that's why the FDA is pushing this.

Sometimes you have to push aside your 'moral' values and look at the big picture. In a perfect world there would be NO diseases at all. unfortunately it's not a perfect world and we have to accept these things.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Would you accept sperm from a gay man?

Orally but probably not anally...yet

:Q

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: armatron
I do not see how you, (assuming to be an intelligent person) can honestly not mind that gay's are donating sperm. Even if you look at the disease-aspect only... they DO have more diseases. It's not an 'opinion' it's a fact. They have MORE diseases than the typical hetero who has sex with prostitutes, and that's why the FDA is pushing this.

Sometimes you have to push aside your 'moral' values and look at the big picture. In a perfect world there would be NO diseases at all. unfortunately it's not a perfect world and we have to accept these things.

I personally think that the screening process should be based on sexual behavior, not orientation, and should be levelled equally against homosexuals and heterosexuals.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: Umberger

Originally posted by: DAGTA
Take a look at the CDC's statistics if you don't believe that the gay lifestyle is much more prone to disease than a heterosexual lifestyle. It's not gay bashing, it's just the truth.

that's perfectly fine, but what about people that don't have any diseases? there are most definitely responsible same sex couples out there.

I don't run a sperm donation clinic (or whatever they are called) so I'm going to make a few assumption here. I'm assuming that those clinics do not have a shortage of willing donors. Those clinics are businesses; they're out to make money. To run a successful business, the business should work to have the highest quality product and/or highest quality service. Since they have plenty of donors, they should work to screen their donations as much as possible to have the highest quality product.

It's fact that that gay men have a much higher risk and tendency to carry STD than heterosexual men. So, if you have plenty of donors and you want to screen for the highest quality product, there's a screening method.

Really, so many people are obsessed with being PC that it's beyond ridiculous. What's next, I can't say the sky is blue because it might offend some Smurf?

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: armatron
I do not see how you, (assuming to be an intelligent person) can honestly not mind that gay's are donating sperm. Even if you look at the disease-aspect only... they DO have more diseases. It's not an 'opinion' it's a fact. They have MORE diseases than the typical hetero who has sex with prostitutes, and that's why the FDA is pushing this.

Sometimes you have to push aside your 'moral' values and look at the big picture. In a perfect world there would be NO diseases at all. unfortunately it's not a perfect world and we have to accept these things.

I personally think that the screening process should be based on sexual behavior, not orientation, and should be levelled equally against homosexuals and heterosexuals.

Nice idea but people lie. You can't trust someone to be honest about their sexual behavior in this situation. So, you screen out the higher risk groups. Of course, you can't stop a man from lying about his sexual orientation either.

 

[Nimloth]

why is FOOD and DRUG Administration regulating sperm donations?

 

[Anonemous]

Originally posted by: Argo
Is that why rblowdoe was banned?

link

 

[Aharami]

stupidest idea ever

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: armatron
I do not see how you, (assuming to be an intelligent person) can honestly not mind that gay's are donating sperm. Even if you look at the disease-aspect only... they DO have more diseases. It's not an 'opinion' it's a fact. They have MORE diseases than the typical hetero who has sex with prostitutes, and that's why the FDA is pushing this.

Sometimes you have to push aside your 'moral' values and look at the big picture. In a perfect world there would be NO diseases at all. unfortunately it's not a perfect world and we have to accept these things.

But shouldn't they test every sample they receive regardless of who it comes from to make sure it's clean?