FCC says 'Saving Private Ryan' is not indecent

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: JackBurton
Let me start off by saying I have NO problem with Saving Private Ryan being aired. HOWEVER, if the Janet Jackson incedent was soooo indecent, you sure as hell better put SPR under that category! The FCC has these bullsh!t invisible guidelines, that are IMPOSSIBLE to get a difinitive "yes" or "no" on what should be broadcast.

There is a HUGE difference between nudity during the superbowl and a movie depicting the realism of WWII.

There's a big difference between knowing something graphic and possibly indecent is being aired and having it surprise you. At least with the SPR airing, stations displayed warnings that the movie is graphic....the JJ incident didn't afford parents the opportunity to censor the TV for their children (if they so desired).

Don't give me this "warning" crap. SPR last time it was aired was UNCUT. That means the warning came at the beginning of a 3hr broadcast. If you happened to of changed the channel somewhere within the 3 HOUR broadcast, guess what, it's without warning. But hey, if that is your arguement, let's just put a "possible nudity, adult language, and DEFINITELY violence" warning message right before the SuperBowl broadcast this year. Would that make you happy? Will that be allowed according to FCC guidelines? Let me tell you something, if indecency rules are put in place to "protect children" from filth, I think seeing JJ boob for 1/2 second will affect a child MUCH less than SPR (and this just taking into account the language and TOTALLY ignoring the extreme violent nature of the film). You can't have it one way, and then do the complete opposite another day. You want these bullsh!t rules put in place, then you need to apply them to EVERYTHING. No exception.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Hell, didn't they show 'Shindler's List' uncut and unedited a few years ago on national TV? There is plenty of nudity and some profanity in that. Plenty of violence also.

I don't really care personally. It is up to me as a parent to decide what my child can and cannot view on TV. Put disclaimers on TV and I'm fine with violence, nudity and profanity on TV. God, nudity should be the least of our worries. :roll:

Exactly.

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: Nik

There's all kinds of weird and inconsistant rules.

And I realized just the other week how smart the FCC has been in getting what it wants. By purposely NOT clearly outlining what is decent or indecent, and simply letting the fear of levied fines clean up the airwaves, they can avoid any Constitutional infringements, while actually achieving more "clean up" than if they had outlined some rules. If they had clearly stated what the rules were, TV and radio producers would tread carefully just on the "decent" edge of that line. But by not drawing the line anywhere in the sand, producers will err on the side of caution and avoid practically anything that could be deemed offensive. Hence the decision by 60 some stations to not air SPR at all.

Played smartly by the FCC, but still I'd rather they stick to regulating frequencies instead of trying to save the children.

 

Who cares what the FCC thinks?

 

[MrBond]

Don't give me this "warning" crap. SPR last time it was aired was UNCUT. That means the warning came at the beginning of a 3hr broadcast. If you happened to of changed the channel somewhere within the 3 HOUR broadcast, guess what, it's without warning.

I think in the past (and last November), they always say "Due to violent content, parental discression is advised" during the commericals advertising the showing. On regular shows where there is going to be a vulgar/violent part (Survivor All-Stars comes to mind), they'll warn during the preview commercials and warn just before the show returns from commercial. Plus there's the TVG/TV14/etc labels in the corner of the screen that appear fairly often in the showing (although usually after a commercial and it does dissappear).

Don't forget your TV probably has a V-Chip in it that's tied to the ratings system. That v-chip would have prevented your kids from channel surfing to SPR, but it wouldn't have prevented them from watching the Super Bowl.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: MrBond

Don't give me this "warning" crap. SPR last time it was aired was UNCUT. That means the warning came at the beginning of a 3hr broadcast. If you happened to of changed the channel somewhere within the 3 HOUR broadcast, guess what, it's without warning.

I think in the past (and last November), they always say "Due to violent content, parental discression is advised" during the commericals advertising the showing. On regular shows where there is going to be a vulgar/violent part (Survivor All-Stars comes to mind), they'll warn during the preview commercials and warn just before the show returns from commercial. Plus there's the TVG/TV14/etc labels in the corner of the screen that appear fairly often in the showing (although usually after a commercial and it does dissappear).

Don't forget your TV probably has a V-Chip in it that's tied to the ratings system. That v-chip would have prevented your kids from channel surfing to SPR, but it wouldn't have prevented them from watching the Super Bowl.

Then maybe we should rate the SuperBowl the same as SPR so the children can be shielded from the violence, possible adult language and nudity.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: MrBond

Don't give me this "warning" crap. SPR last time it was aired was UNCUT. That means the warning came at the beginning of a 3hr broadcast. If you happened to of changed the channel somewhere within the 3 HOUR broadcast, guess what, it's without warning.

I think in the past (and last November), they always say "Due to violent content, parental discression is advised" during the commericals advertising the showing. On regular shows where there is going to be a vulgar/violent part (Survivor All-Stars comes to mind), they'll warn during the preview commercials and warn just before the show returns from commercial. Plus there's the TVG/TV14/etc labels in the corner of the screen that appear fairly often in the showing (although usually after a commercial and it does dissappear).

Don't forget your TV probably has a V-Chip in it that's tied to the ratings system. That v-chip would have prevented your kids from channel surfing to SPR, but it wouldn't have prevented them from watching the Super Bowl.

Then maybe we should rate the SuperBowl the same as SPR so the children can be shielded from the violence, possible adult language and nudity.

Or the Super Bowl should just be a football game...

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: MrBond

Don't give me this "warning" crap. SPR last time it was aired was UNCUT. That means the warning came at the beginning of a 3hr broadcast. If you happened to of changed the channel somewhere within the 3 HOUR broadcast, guess what, it's without warning.

I think in the past (and last November), they always say "Due to violent content, parental discression is advised" during the commericals advertising the showing. On regular shows where there is going to be a vulgar/violent part (Survivor All-Stars comes to mind), they'll warn during the preview commercials and warn just before the show returns from commercial. Plus there's the TVG/TV14/etc labels in the corner of the screen that appear fairly often in the showing (although usually after a commercial and it does dissappear).

Don't forget your TV probably has a V-Chip in it that's tied to the ratings system. That v-chip would have prevented your kids from channel surfing to SPR, but it wouldn't have prevented them from watching the Super Bowl.

Then maybe we should rate the SuperBowl the same as SPR so the children can be shielded from the violence, possible adult language and nudity.

Or the Super Bowl should just be a football game...

Well if you take out the violence, it's not much of a football game, is it? What you then have is MAYBE flag or touch football. Not very exciting IMO.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: JackBurton
Well if you take out the violence, it's not much of a football game, is it? What you then have is MAYBE flag or touch football. Not very exciting IMO.

Football is violence?

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Perknose
I think nudity in government is obscene -- the Emporer has no clothes!

Ashcroft thought so

Well, that's because Ashcroft was a prude.

The PTC on the other hand... wow, are they trying to be dickheads or what?