FCC says 'Saving Private Ryan' is not indecent

[MrBond]

Just saw this on ZDNet:

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5549428.html

A title and body search for "FCC" does not find any relevant links in the last week.

 

[Kelvrick]

How would SPR be considered indecent anyway? Graphic I could see, but indecent?

 

[Modeps]

Originally posted by: Kelvrick
How would SPR be considered indecent anyway? Graphic I could see, but indecent?

Considering the amount of times they use the F-bomb.... it's indecent according to their rules...

 

[MrBond]

How would SPR be considered indecent anyway? Graphic I could see, but indecent?

I don't know if there were any complaints, but ABC has shown it for Veterens Day in the past uncut, with warnings that it's graphic and violent. There were 66 ABC affiliates that didn't show it last year because they didn't want to be fined for it.

Honestly, I've seen SPR many times and I can't even recall a time in the movie where they say "fvck". When I think about SPR I don't think "Gee, they sure swore a lot," I think "Wow, WWII was a terrible thing and I'm sure glad all those people put their lives on the line so I could live free - I better earn it"

There's some watchdog group that basicly dumps letters on the FCC whenever they see something they think is "indecent", I read somewhere that like 90% of the complaints about indecent programing were related to this one group.

 

[desy]

Now
Shaving Ryan's Privates
thats indecent!

 

[notfred]

"The FCC is only deeming everything indecent that is way over the top" and not just inappropriate, said Lara Mahaney, a spokeswoman for the PTC. "We know of no community in America where like words like 'd**k' and 'd**khead' would be considered decent or commonfare language."

I don't know where the fvck she lives that people don't say "dick".

 

[EyeMWing]

Thank god! The FCC grew some f'ing balls!

Another complaint centered on Fox's "The Simpsons" show, where, in one episode, students carried signs that said: "Don't cut off my pianissimo."

pianissimo

adj : chiefly a direction or description in music; very soft n : (music) low loudness [syn: piano] adv : a direction in music; to be played very softly [syn: very softly] [ant: fortissimo]

$20 says this episode had something to do with music.

The group also said indecency rules were violated when the main character in the Austin Powers movie had his genitals hidden by furniture and other objects.

Okay, we'll show his wang instead next time.

 

[Reckoner]

Can we have the PTC fined for stupidity?

 

[JackBurton]

Let me start off by saying I have NO problem with Saving Private Ryan being aired. HOWEVER, if the Janet Jackson incedent was soooo indecent, you sure as hell better put SPR under that category! The FCC has these bullsh!t invisible guidelines, that are IMPOSSIBLE to get a difinitive "yes" or "no" on what should be broadcast.

 

[Led Zeppelin]

If they all just got laid more, they'd lighten up a little. But they're all bible thumpers who think that seeing a breast will doom us all to hell. The FCC and the PTC are both a joke.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: JackBurton
Let me start off by saying I have NO problem with Saving Private Ryan being aired. HOWEVER, if the Janet Jackson incedent was soooo indecent, you sure as hell better put SPR under that category! The FCC has these bullsh!t invisible guidelines, that are IMPOSSIBLE to get a difinitive "yes" or "no" on what should be broadcast.

There is a HUGE difference between nudity during the superbowl and a movie depicting the realism of WWII.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: JackBurton
Let me start off by saying I have NO problem with Saving Private Ryan being aired. HOWEVER, if the Janet Jackson incedent was soooo indecent, you sure as hell better put SPR under that category! The FCC has these bullsh!t invisible guidelines, that are IMPOSSIBLE to get a difinitive "yes" or "no" on what should be broadcast.

There is a HUGE difference between nudity during the superbowl and a movie depicting the realism of WWII.

There's a big difference between knowing something graphic and possibly indecent is being aired and having it surprise you. At least with the SPR airing, stations displayed warnings that the movie is graphic....the JJ incident didn't afford parents the opportunity to censor the TV for their children (if they so desired).

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: Modeps

Originally posted by: Kelvrick
How would SPR be considered indecent anyway? Graphic I could see, but indecent?

Considering the amount of times they use the F-bomb.... it's indecent according to their rules...

I don't recall the F-word being use hardly at all in that movie.

Ausm

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
If they all just got laid more, they'd lighten up a little. But they're all bible thumpers who think that seeing a breast will doom us all to hell. The FCC and the PTC are both a joke.

im no bible thumper and i thought that the janet fiasco was indecent. nudity and sex has its place. the superbowl, rated g, playing in primetime wasnt the place or time for some nasty skank and metro hack to be flashin tit.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: notfred

"The FCC is only deeming everything indecent that is way over the top" and not just inappropriate, said Lara Mahaney, a spokeswoman for the PTC. "We know of no community in America where like words like 'd**k' and 'd**khead' would be considered decent or commonfare language.

What a dickhead!

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: JackBurton
Let me start off by saying I have NO problem with Saving Private Ryan being aired. HOWEVER, if the Janet Jackson incedent was soooo indecent, you sure as hell better put SPR under that category! The FCC has these bullsh!t invisible guidelines, that are IMPOSSIBLE to get a difinitive "yes" or "no" on what should be broadcast.

There is a HUGE difference between nudity during the superbowl and a movie depicting the realism of WWII.

There's a big difference between knowing something graphic and possibly indecent is being aired and having it surprise you. At least with the SPR airing, stations displayed warnings that the movie is graphic....the JJ incident didn't afford parents the opportunity to censor the TV for their children (if they so desired).

bingo. read up bostonredsox. the crux isnt "the tit".

 

[OutHouse]

what pisses me off was when shindlers list was shown uncut. they showed full frontal nudity for both men and women, people made all kinds of complaints. but when SPR is shown the only thing people bitch about are like 2 instances of the Fbomb being said.

So it ok to show men being killed by the thousands in some of the most graphic manner every devised by man, but its morally wrong to show nudity and say the fbomb. people just fricken piss me off.

 

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
If they all just got laid more, they'd lighten up a little. But they're all bible thumpers who think that seeing a breast will doom us all to hell. The FCC and the PTC are both a joke.

im no bible thumper and i thought that the janet fiasco was indecent. nudity and sex has its place. the superbowl, rated g, playing in primetime wasnt the place or time for some nasty skank and metro hack to be flashin tit.

What was indecent about it? It was a nano-second shot at the most. AND the nipple was covered. I have last years Super Bowl still on TIVO and I really can't understand the outcry. It was such a far shot, and if you blinked your eyes, you missed it. I actually really did miss it when it happened live as it happened so quickly. I've seen more skin on Fox's reality shows, including the Sports Illustrated's Next Swimsuit Model show that's currently airing.

 

[conjur]

http://www.mediaweek.com/media..._content_id=1000731656

The number of indecency complaints had soared dramatically to more than 240,000 in the previous year, Powell said. The figure was up from roughly 14,000 in 2002, and from fewer than 350 in each of the two previous years. There was, Powell said, ?a dramatic rise in public concern and outrage about what is being broadcast into their homes.?

What Powell did not reveal?apparently because he was unaware?was the source of the complaints. According to a new FCC estimate obtained by Mediaweek, nearly all indecency complaints in 2003?99.8 percent?were filed by the Parents Television Council, an activist group.

This year, the trend has continued, and perhaps intensified.

Through early October, 99.9 percent of indecency complaints?aside from those concerning the Janet Jackson ?wardrobe malfunction? during the Super Bowl halftime show broadcast on CBS? were brought by the PTC, according to the FCC analysis dated Oct. 1. (The agency last week estimated it had received 1,068,767 complaints about broadcast indecency so far this year; the Super Bowl broadcast accounted for over 540,000, according to commissioners? statements.)

 

[Perknose]

I think nudity in government is obscene -- the Emporer has no clothes!

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Perknose
I think nudity in government is obscene -- the Emporer has no clothes!

Ashcroft thought so

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
If they all just got laid more, they'd lighten up a little. But they're all bible thumpers who think that seeing a breast will doom us all to hell. The FCC and the PTC are both a joke.

im no bible thumper and i thought that the janet fiasco was indecent. nudity and sex has its place. the superbowl, rated g, playing in primetime wasnt the place or time for some nasty skank and metro hack to be flashin tit.

What was indecent about it? It was a nano-second shot at the most. AND the nipple was covered. I have last years Super Bowl still on TIVO and I really can't understand the outcry. It was such a far shot, and if you blinked your eyes, you missed it. I actually really did miss it when it happened live as it happened so quickly. I've seen more skin on Fox's reality shows, including the Sports Illustrated's Next Swimsuit Model show that's currently airing.

im not disagreeing with you. feldenak had it right.

should i watch taht other crap, i know what to expect, and have no problem with that. im no prude. but i dont expect to see stupid sh!it like that during the superbowl. if i did, id be sure to take appropriate measures and not let my children watch it, like i do in the other instances you mentioned.

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: conjur
http://www.mediaweek.com/media..._content_id=1000731656

The number of indecency complaints had soared dramatically to more than 240,000 in the previous year, Powell said. The figure was up from roughly 14,000 in 2002, and from fewer than 350 in each of the two previous years. There was, Powell said, ?a dramatic rise in public concern and outrage about what is being broadcast into their homes.?

What Powell did not reveal?apparently because he was unaware?was the source of the complaints. According to a new FCC estimate obtained by Mediaweek, nearly all indecency complaints in 2003?99.8 percent?were filed by the Parents Television Council, an activist group.

This year, the trend has continued, and perhaps intensified.

Through early October, 99.9 percent of indecency complaints?aside from those concerning the Janet Jackson ?wardrobe malfunction? during the Super Bowl halftime show broadcast on CBS? were brought by the PTC, according to the FCC analysis dated Oct. 1. (The agency last week estimated it had received 1,068,767 complaints about broadcast indecency so far this year; the Super Bowl broadcast accounted for over 540,000, according to commissioners? statements.)

another case of "a few bad apples spoiling the barrel".

 

[JulesMaximus]

Hell, didn't they show 'Shindler's List' uncut and unedited a few years ago on national TV? There is plenty of nudity and some profanity in that. Plenty of violence also.

I don't really care personally. It is up to me as a parent to decide what my child can and cannot view on TV. Put disclaimers on TV and I'm fine with violence, nudity and profanity on TV. God, nudity should be the least of our worries. :roll:

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Modeps

Originally posted by: Kelvrick
How would SPR be considered indecent anyway? Graphic I could see, but indecent?

Considering the amount of times they use the F-bomb.... it's indecent according to their rules...

I don't recall the F-word being use hardly at all in that movie.

Ausm

You need to watch it again. Count the number of times they say it. Films in the theater can get away with saying it 3 times to keep a "PG-13" rating. Saying it 4 times deems it an "R" rating. I know that's not the FCC's rules, but the FCC has similar rules. You can't say the F-bomb over a CB or public radio, no matter what channel you're on, during certain hours of the day.

There's all kinds of weird and inconsistant rules.