FCC questions state laws that block cities from building their own broadband network

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http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2014/03/04/2955077/fcc-questions-state-laws-that.html

FCC questions state laws that block cities from building their own broadband network


Frustrated with the sluggish speed and high cost of their Internet service providers, the residents of Wilson, N.C., decided a few years ago to take matters into their own hands – they would simply build their own connection.

The city council unanimously voted in 2006 to create a fiber-to-home network that today provides affordable high-speed Internet to homes and businesses, connects schools, and even supplies downtown Wilson with free Wi-Fi.


Incumbent companies Time Warner Cable and CenturyLink were forced to lower their prices and upgrade their service to remain competitive.
Four other communities in the state also launched municipal broadband.



Such enterprises irked big-time providers enough that, after years of lobbying and a million dollars in campaign cash, North Carolina in 2011 passed a cable industry-backed law that makes it nearly impossible for any other municipality to do the same.



Two weeks ago, the Federal Communications Commission announced that it intends to take a close look at overruling such state laws, which restrict the ability of cities and towns to build their own broadband networks in 20 states across the country.

State laws resulting from Internet service provider-sponsored bills vary in severity across the country.
Pennsylvania does not allow municipalities to sell broadband services at all if a “local telephone company” already provides it, no matter how high the price or how poor the service.

“These restrictions are the result of intensive lobbying by incumbent Internet companies who don’t want to see any kind of competition,” said Matt Wood, policy director for the consumer group Free Press. “They have whole armies of people representing their interests.”
The focus on possible ISP alternatives killed a Kansas bill last month that would have made it the 21st state with municipal Internet restrictions.

The Kansas bill could have hampered Google Fiber’s expansion in the region the same way North Carolina’s 2011 law stops Wilson from connecting surrounding towns east of the Raleigh-Durham area to its fiber network.

The FCC’s examination of anti-municipal broadband laws is not likely to loosen the ISP giants’ grip on the market, but consumer advocates say the goal is to return control to cities and towns to make their own decisions.


“When the state is deciding on behalf of the city, you have to wonder about the true public interest here,” Wood said. “The real story is that communities are having this choice taken away from them.”


The FCC says it hopes to consider a formal set of new rules by late spring or early summer.
 

dainthomas

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The argument that the United States can't have the speed and price of Europe and Japan/Korea is a fallacy perpetuated by these scummy ISPs. It is very technically feasible (certainly in more densely populated areas).
 

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I hope that happens, the broadband state in the US is pitiful and incumbents are writing all the rules. I do wonder if it will actually come to pass though. The FCC net neutrality rules were overturned by the courts, I have a nagging feeling that the same might happen with this as well. IMO the broadband state in this country is going to get a whole lot worse before it gets better.
 

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This is the result of current policies, we have slower internet than Estonia!

According to a recent study by Ookla Speedtest, the U.S. ranks a shocking 31st in the world in terms of average download speeds. The leaders in the world are Hong Kong at 72.49 Mbps and Singapore on 58.84 Mbps. And America? Averaging speeds of 20.77 Mbps, it falls behind countries like Estonia, Hungary, Slovakia, and Uruguay.
Its upload speeds are even worse. Globally, the U.S. ranks 42nd with an average upload speed of 6.31 Mbps, behind Lesotho, Belarus, Slovenia, and other countries you only hear mentioned on Jeopardy.
http://theweek.com/article/index/257404/why-is-american-internet-so-slow
 

smackababy

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This is the result of current policies, we have slower internet than Estonia!


http://theweek.com/article/index/257404/why-is-american-internet-so-slow

That, and if you add up the area of almost all the countries above us, we'd be the same size. The US has a much larger infrastructure problem than countries like Hong Kong. I'm sure if you just left based it on Rhode Island, we'd be above countries the same size.

Not saying out polices aren't holding us back, just that those aren't the only reason we have "slow" internet.
 

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That, and if you add up the area of almost all the countries above us, we'd be the same size. The US has a much larger infrastructure problem than countries like Hong Kong. I'm sure if you just left based it on Rhode Island, we'd be above countries the same size.

Not saying out polices aren't holding us back, just that those aren't the only reason we have "slow" internet.

Utter bullshit. The only difference is cost, which the providers here are not willing to pony up. Instead they leach off us with their monopoly agreements and pathetic service.
 

dainthomas

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That, and if you add up the area of almost all the countries above us, we'd be the same size. The US has a much larger infrastructure problem than countries like Hong Kong. I'm sure if you just left based it on Rhode Island, we'd be above countries the same size.

Not saying out polices aren't holding us back, just that those aren't the only reason we have "slow" internet.

How about a state by state basis? Missouri is the same size and has twice the population of Uruguay. Why is its internet speed so much worse?
 

smackababy

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How about a state by state basis? Missouri is the same size and has twice the population of Uruguay. Why is its internet speed so much worse?

Look at the population density of each state. Uruguay is far more concentrated, while Missouri has the majority of the state at 1-10 and 10-25 people per square mile. It is far more expensive (with very little return of investment) to run "good" internet to most counties.

Even without a monopoly, what independent company is going to run fiber all over the state for an extra few thousand costumers? It is like that in a lot of states. So, our "awful" internet

The US ranks far above China and I can't find where Russia is, but I'm sure it is below the US. We are hardly living with dial up.
 

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That, and if you add up the area of almost all the countries above us, we'd be the same size. The US has a much larger infrastructure problem than countries like Hong Kong. I'm sure if you just left based it on Rhode Island, we'd be above countries the same size.

Not saying out polices aren't holding us back, just that those aren't the only reason we have "slow" internet.

this is not totally true. sure in the middle of nowhere West Texas its true but there is no reason our major cities and urban areas cant have super fast internet besides the providers being cheap and greedy and policiy holding us back
 

smackababy

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this is not totally true. sure in the middle of nowhere West Texas its true but there is no reason our major cities and urban areas cant have super fast internet besides the providers being cheap and greedy and policiy holding us back

Define super fast? Because, every major city I know offers higher than the fastest country's average. Most of the population is not living in the dark ages of dial up.

Hong Kong has a population density of 17,000 people per square mile. It isn't cost prohibitive to run expensive cable, because you have a lot of potential customers for every mile you run. In a lot of the US, that isn't the case. My internet is double the average (both DL and UL) and I am sure quite a few people that do live in populated areas in this country have similar experiences.

Hell, in Alabama of all states, I had double what I have now.
 
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