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FC5 or Ubuntu Dapper?

It's a matter of opinion. Both are nice but I like Ubuntu > FC because using apt/synaptic seems quicker than using yum/yumx.
 
Originally posted by: DLeRium
Uhh there is a huge difference. FC5 is so dependent on RPM it's not cool. Power users will go with Ubuntu or Gentoo.
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Yeah, and it's really uncool how dependent Ubuntu is on .debs and Gentoo on whatever their packages are called :roll:
 
Originally posted by: Tullphan
Or is there any difference?
Is one better than the other?
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Fedora Core is one of those distros that keeps the mentality of including "everything, but the kitchen sink." They package a ton of software in their installer which spans across a lot of cds or one dvd. Ubuntu differs with only requiring one cd for using their distribution, but has a dvd release available.

Fedora uses the rpm package management format to install applications and allows dependency resolving through yum. I'm not exactly sure how many repositories and packages are available for fedora, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't compare to Ubuntu's repositories and packages available. Ubuntu uses the deb package management format along with apt to resolve depencies.

Hard to tell you which one is "better." I've noticed that FC5 tends to be one of the most stable current distributions out right now. I've actually noticed a lot of bugs with Ubuntu such as trying to install using the new graphical desktop installer. However, Ubuntu is, without a doubt, the most popular distribution right now and with good reason.

I would say give Ubuntu a try first. Its quicker to download and install. If that doesn't work out give Fedora a shot.
 
Originally posted by: kamper
Originally posted by: DLeRium
Uhh there is a huge difference. FC5 is so dependent on RPM it's not cool. Power users will go with Ubuntu or Gentoo.
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Yeah, and it's really uncool how dependent Ubuntu is on .debs and Gentoo on whatever their packages are called :roll:
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Gentoo doesnt use packages, it compiles everything from source 😉
 
Gentoo doesnt use packages, it compiles everything from source
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ebuilds are packages, the fact that you compile them locally instead of on a autobuild server is irrelevant. And there are binary packages for Gentoo for bigger things like O😵
 
Originally posted by: SleepWalkerX
Originally posted by: Tullphan
Or is there any difference?
Is one better than the other?
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Fedora Core is one of those distros that keeps the mentality of including "everything, but the kitchen sink."
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This is the main reason I don't like Fedora much.
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
Gentoo doesnt use packages, it compiles everything from source
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ebuilds are packages, the fact that you compile them locally instead of on a autobuild server is irrelevant. And there are binary packages for Gentoo for bigger things like O😵
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Ebuilds are not packages. They are bash scripts used by portage for installation. Yes there are binary packages, but you download the source by default.


Oops I forgot to contribute to the thread. Use Gentoo if you'd like to learn a LOT about how linux works (be prepared for many, many mistakes). Or If you'd like an easy to use free operating system I would suggest Ubuntu. I've never tried fedora core because rpm's turn me off.
 
Ebuilds are not packages. They are bash scripts used by portage for installation.
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Close enough, there's no hard rule that says packages have to be a single binary file.

Use Gentoo if you'd like to learn a LOT about how linux works
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Or if you just like watching gcc output scroll for hours on end.

I've never tried fedora core because rpm's turn me off.
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That's called being short-sighted. RPMs are perfectly fine and are even techincally superior to .debs in a few ways, the fact that most people who create RPMs don't use those features isn't a failing in the package format.

Not liking something is fine, but blindling not liking it for no real reason is just plain stupid. I personally don't like FC because of some policy decisions that they make, the fact that there's virtually no packages in the official repositories and yum is slow as snot. RPMs are not in any way a problem.
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman

Close enough, there's no hard rule that says packages have to be a single binary file.
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No there isnt, there is just a hard rule saying that ebuilds are not packages.

Or if you just like watching gcc output scroll for hours on end.
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Why you would bother watching something compile I have no idea. But you learn a lot in the installation process.

That's called being short-sighted. RPMs are perfectly fine and are even techincally superior to .debs in a few ways, the fact that most people who create RPMs don't use those features isn't a failing in the package format.

Not liking something is fine, but blindling not liking it for no real reason is just plain stupid. I personally don't like FC because of some policy decisions that they make, the fact that there's virtually no packages in the official repositories and yum is slow as snot. RPMs are not in any way a problem.
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Is it? I never said I didnt have a reason for disliking rpms, I just stated that I did. For one thing it isnt easy to unpack them, hell it isnt easy to make them in the first place because their documentation sucks. Not only that, without using smart I run into so many dependency problems with rpm-based distros that it makes me want to scream. Now explain to me how they are technically superior 😛
 
No there isnt, there is just a hard rule saying that ebuilds are not packages.
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Where and written by whom?

Why you would bother watching something compile I have no idea. But you learn a lot in the installation process.
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If you say so, the only thing I learned when I tried it was that X takes like 12hrs to compile on that particular machine.

For one thing it isnt easy to unpack them, hell it isnt easy to make them in the first place because their documentation sucks.
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I don't know what you're doing wrong, but IMO it's pretty easy to extract them with rpm2cpio or alien. And creating them is incredibly simple, I found the documentation on Fedora's page to be fine.

Not only that, without using smart I run into so many dependency problems with rpm-based distros that it makes me want to scream.
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Again, I don't know what you're doing wrong but while yum may be slow and annoying, it handles dependencies just fine.

Now explain to me how they are technically superior
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Compared to what?
 
This is from my experience with Fedora Core 5 under VMware Workstation. FC5 may have a faster UI and look prettier by default. Hardware may install better too. In the long run, Ubuntu just has so much more support and such huge repositories that I'll stick with it instead.
 
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