FBI wants records kept of Web sites visited

[SandEagle]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10448060-38.html

>WASHINGTON--The FBI is pressing Internet service providers to record which Web sites customers visit and retain those logs for two years, a requirement that law enforcement believes could help it in investigations of child pornography and other serious crimes.>


better think twice before clicking on those bit.ly and tinyurl links

 

[her209]

Good luck with that.

 

[destrekor]

well fuck me
uncle would be disappointed, had he ever conceived of such a thing as the network of tubes

 

[Craig234]

well fuck me
uncle would be disappointed, had he ever conceived of such a thing as the network of tubes

These things usually work that the goverment gets them secretly. If it's known they have them, they're less effective.

In the 50's, Western Union used to let the FBI copy all telegrams sent every day for its secret perusal. Bush had warrantless wiretapping secretly set up with phone companies (though Verizon refused).

 

[amdhunter]

lol, why does every bill like this use child pornography as its crutch?

 

[SSSnail]

lol, why does every bill like this use child pornography as its crutch?

Why won't you think of the CHILDREN!!!??

 

[lxskllr]

lol, why does every bill like this use child pornography as its crutch?

Because communism was played out years ago ;^)

 

[amdhunter]

Why won't you think of the CHILDREN!!!??

I think about them ALL THE TIME! ALL. THE. TIME. :hmm:

 

[Matthiasa]

lol, why does every bill like this use child pornography as its crutch?

Probably because they played to terrorist card to much already.

 

[Kalmah]

Is it possible to use the 'I had open wi-fi' defense?

 

[zeruty]

lol, why does every bill like this use child pornography as its crutch?

Because the mere thought of child pornography elicits an emotional response.

Much more so than pirating movies, music, software, committing identify theft, etc. I'm sure these would be some of the first things the law is used for. But it won't be long before the information is used to destroy political opponents, etc.

 

[lxskllr]

Is it possible to use the 'I had open wi-fi' defense?

You can use any defense you like. The legal system is bent every day to give the government/corporations more power. What will it be on your particular day? You'll have to go in and find out....

 

[Balt]

lol, why does every bill like this use child pornography as its crutch?

Because anyone who objects to the monitoring can then be labeled as a demon who doesn't care about the welfare of children.

 

[TubeTote]

Well seeing as Amoricans seem to tolerate the 'patriot' act among other things, I am sure this is just another step towards our Orwellian future.

 

[Colt45]

I'm sure they want warrant-less arrests and troikas as well. But the people are supposed to stop them from obtaining such things.

 

[shortylickens]

Because anyone who objects to the monitoring can then be labeled as a demon who doesn't care about the welfare of children.

Joe McCarthy would be ashamed of the way Big Brother treats its citizens.

 

[ShawnD1]

lol, why does every bill like this use child pornography as its crutch?

Because taking pictures of kids is apparently much worse than killing people. Seriously, if they said this new system would "help solve thousands of unsolved murders" I really don't think anyone would care.

Come to think of it, didn't someone suggest a system to track everyone's DNA? That way a random hair found at a crime scene would point to a specific person found in the database. That idea was scrapped because murder and rape in the US are not a big deal and the bitch probably deserved it anyway. Finding creepy people who watch really weird porn? This is top priority!

 

[Patranus]

http://www.torproject.org/

Problem solved.

 

[xanis]

Umm... no.

 

[Raduque]

Why won't you think of the CHILDREN!!!??

Oh, but he IS thinking about the children. :awe:

 

[Kadarin]

lol, why does every bill like this use child pornography as its crutch?

Because that's how you get legislation passed that so clearly runs against the spirit of what the United States was founded upon.

 

[QueBert]

lol, why does every bill like this use child pornography as its crutch?

I don' visit a single site I'd be worried about the FBI looking into. While I don't care to have my privacy violated, since I don't do shit wrong, and this could very well lead to some sickfuck pedpos getting sent to prison. Then go ahead and violate my rights so some small children kids can possibly be saved from bullshit like this.

 

[Kaido]

@ QueBert - yeah...it's like the airport - all the extra security is a pain, but I'd rather deal with it than have it be totally open to terrorists. There are a lot of messed-up people in this world, and the Internet offers total anonymity so people can get as screwed up as they want, which spills out into real-life.

Plus they're monitoring everything already, so who cares.../puts on tinfoil hat :hmm:

 

[lxskllr]

I don' visit a single site I'd be worried about the FBI looking into. While I don't care to have my privacy violated, since I don't do shit wrong, and this could very well lead to some sickfuck pedpos getting sent to prison. Then go ahead and violate my rights so some small children kids can possibly be saved from bullshit like this.

Yea, fuck privacy. I want the grand protector to know everything about me. I'm looking forward to the time brain implants become practical. That way if I accidentally have seditious thoughts, the grand protector can "reeducate" me, so those bad thoughts won't ruin my life, or allow me to become a poor servant...err citizen...

 

[zeruty]

I don' visit a single site I'd be worried about the FBI looking into. While I don't care to have my privacy violated, since I don't do shit wrong, and this could very well lead to some sickfuck pedpos getting sent to prison. Then go ahead and violate my rights so some small children kids can possibly be saved from bullshit like this.

Slippery Slope.

Do you do any of the following?:

• Download pirated music?
• Download pirated movies?
• Download pirated software?
• Discuss political viewpoints that may be in contrast with the viewpoint of the government? (Such as legalizing marijuana, or organizing protests, etc)
• Allow people other than yourself to use your internet connection?
• Use a Wifi access point relying on WEP or WPA as your security method, or open wifi?
• A myriad of other possibilities

If so, you might want to think before you start handing over your rights.