FBI reopens investigation into Clinton email use

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Pens1566

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They conveyed classified information over unsecure channels which is illegal. You're splitting hairs over semantics if my post since you have no way to spin this one.

As has been pointed out many times across many threads ... no, it's not. In this case, the semantics are actually very important. I know, that NYT link about drones should be punishable by death. /rollseyes
 

Jhhnn

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They conveyed classified information over unsecure channels which is illegal. You're splitting hairs over semantics if my post since you have no way to spin this one.

You're claiming things that aren't true. Had there been documents there would have been intent. That's the objective, isn't it, to create the idea that there was intent?

I figure that if they couldn't find intent the first time around that they won't find it now.
 

UglyCasanova

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As has been pointed out many times across many threads ... no, it's not. In this case, the semantics are actually very important. I know, that NYT link about drones should be punishable by death. /rollseyes


Special access programs aren't the same thing as a NYT article. Spin away, but I know you realize this.
 

UglyCasanova

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You're claiming things that aren't true. Had there been documents there would have been intent. That's the objective, isn't it, to create the idea that there was intent?

I figure that if they couldn't find intent the first time around that they won't find it now.


How do documents create intent any more than the transmission of information?
 

UglyCasanova

Lifer
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UglyC likes to run back to first base.

I still so not know what the point was of suddenly releasing details regarding an old Bill Clinton investigation in 2001 now also.

New FBI dump raises questions

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/election-us-2016-37825671


No shit it raises questions. I asked them earlier: who sent them, who was the target recipient, and what was the underlying message in them? I refuse to believe this was just standard FOIA releases that just so happened to have unfortunate timing, there was a reason these were posted. I think we both agree on that.
 

MongGrel

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No shit it raises questions. I asked them earlier: who sent them, who was the target recipient, and what was the underlying message in them? I refuse to believe this was just standard FOIA releases that just so happened to have unfortunate timing, there was a reason these were posted. I think we both agree on that.

Of course there is a reason.

The FBI is meddling with the US election at this point.
 
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trenchfoot

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Hope is such a cruel and fleeting creature.

It can be there for all to see and gone in a blink of the eye. The hope that this email scandal will torpedo any chance of Hillary winning the presidency is, for all intent and purpose, ephemeral at best.

True to form, the GOP will hang this around Hillary's neck 'til chicken little gets it right, but sorry to say (for those that are hoping against hope that this scandal will ruin Hillary's chances) the Hillary steamroller is rolling right along unabated, and it will roll right over this email bump in the asphalt and flatten it without pause.

Minds are already made up, the numbers are on her side and it will stay that way come election day.
 

MongGrel

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I've already voted on Sunday I suppose, so it is all a moot point on my end at this time.
 

Jhhnn

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Special access programs aren't the same thing as a NYT article. Spin away, but I know you realize this.

They are when the story is about the SAP drone program. That stuff splashed across the front page? It's still classified. Go figure.
 

UglyCasanova

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Of course there is a reason.

The FBI is meddling with the US election at this point.


I think that's a good possibility, to what end though? Who at he FBI? Is there an internal power struggle, or one against the DOJ? Do they possibly have actual real dirt on the Clintons and this is a warning shot to Obama not to go the pardon route like Bill did?
 

Jhhnn

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I think that's a good possibility, to what end though? Who at he FBI? Is there an internal power struggle, or one against the DOJ? Do they possibly have actual real dirt on the Clintons and this is a warning shot to Obama not to go the pardon route like Bill did?

Or are you just trying to establish some conspiracy theory?
 

UglyCasanova

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Or are you just trying to establish some conspiracy theory?


I think there's enough out there to say that some sort of conspiracy is going on and I think you'd agree with that. Whether it's just to be pro Trump (or anti Clinton?) by the FBI or whether it's larger than that remains to be seen.
 

nickqt

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The FBI is clearly a fucking mess, and Comey doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.

Everything else is 100% speculative conjecture, at best.
 

Jhhnn

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I think there's enough out there to say that some sort of conspiracy is going on and I think you'd agree with that. Whether it's just to be pro Trump (or anti Clinton?) by the FBI or whether it's larger than that remains to be seen.

It just has to be one guy with access to the twitter acct going rogue.
 

UglyCasanova

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The FBI's review of available Internet Information Services (IIS) web logs showed scanning attempts from external IP addresses over the course of Pagliano's administration of the server. Forensic analysis noted that on January 5, 2013, three IP addresses matching known Tor exit nodes were observed accessing a user e-mail account on the Pagliano Server believed to belong to President Clinton staffer [REDACTED] FBI investigation indiciated the Tor user logged into [REDACTED]'s e-mail account and browsed e-mail folders and attachments. When asked during her interview [REDACTED] stated to the FBI she is not familiar nor has she ever used Tor software. FBI investigation to date was unable to identify the actor(s) responsible for this login or how [REDACTED]'s login credentials were compromised.

I thought Comey testified there was no evidence anyone attempted to hack it?

Also his testimony was 53 email chains instead of 81.
 

Jhhnn

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dude, when you go before a judge and argue for a issue of a warrant then you might have something. until then, you are nothing more than a colfax pot head who thinks he knows something because you read a website.

LOL.

Mew. You have no argument.
 
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Wtf, Michelle Obama just deleted all of her tweets from the last 3 years...

https://mobile.twitter.com/michelleobama
I wanted to come back to this post. Fake news sites started this story this morning. The fringe right sites then picked up in it and started spreading it. Soon it was all over the conservative sites and forums. Hannity ran it as fact on his show as well and not a single one of them could be bothered to do what you appeared to do which was actually look into it.

Way too many people will lap up whatever is fed to them and gleefully wallow in their ignorance if it fits their world view.
 
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Zaap

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"Information" is not "documents".
LOL! Now there's a quote.

Yeah, information is just strings of green zeros and ones.
Info-Overload.jpg
 

boomerang

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Ran across this this morning. 650,000 emails is obviously a lot of emails. This guy makes a tech based, pretty compelling argument on why every email that was contained on the Clinton, Inc. server may be on the laptop taken from the Abedin/Weiner residence. It has to do with how the laptop would have interacted with the server and when the server was taken off line

It's an IMAP issue for those that have even minor knowledge of how email protocols function. Once the server was taken off line, the email client on the laptop was not able to connect and sync thus the emails remained.

This "newly discovered" laptop is very likely to be literal nuclear waste for Hillary and everyone around her

The link above contains a link to the article. Below is a quote from that article.

Here’s the problem for Hillary — when the server had emails deleted and then was “Bleached” it had already been taken offline and was never returned to service. As such the laptop client would have been unable to connect back to it and thus it would never be told to remove anything.

Without that machine (Weiner’s laptop) being under remote administration such as Domain Policy control (which we can reasonably assume it was not as Huma claims “she didn’t know about it” and it was allegedly a private laptop) there is no remote capability to wipe or otherwise get into said computer and remove the emails either. In fact there’s a decent chance it’s running an operating system edition (if Windows) that lacks domain control capability entirely.

This means that the odds are extremely high that all of the deleted emails to which Huma was a participant are on that computer.

Every.
Single.
One.


If that examination shows that work product, or worse, classified information was sent and/or received and the evidence intentionally destroyed via the “Bleachbit” process then everyone involved is cooked. Remember, the claim was that the emails deleted were nothing more than yoga chat and similar; all “personal” content that the government had no right to and implicated no national security interest. Further, Huma claimed twice (once during her exit from State, and again under oath when questioned) that she had turned over all devices that might or did have US Government work product on them and had retained no copies.

If that is proved to be a lie, or worse, proof of felony conduct such as influence peddling or (God forbid for them) something like the rumored link to Epstein’s Lolita Express is found in those archives then a whole bunch of people are going straight to prison not only on the original acts evidenced in the emails themselves but also on felony obstruction of justice and perjury charges.

Yes, folks, this is a very big deal because it is the first discovery of a computer that appears to have been sync’d against the Clinton server but was neither tampered with or destroyed, and thus it likely contains all of the pertinent evidence to which Huma was a part.

… I can confidently state that unless someone took affirmative action to alter the record the odds are extremely high that every single email chain Huma participated in is likely on that laptop, whether Hillary and her friends tried to delete it or not.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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Ran across this this morning. 650,000 emails is obviously a lot of emails. This guy makes a tech based, pretty compelling argument on why every email that was contained on the Clinton, Inc. server may be on the laptop taken from the Abedin/Weiner residence. It has to do with how the laptop would have interacted with the server and when the server was taken off line

It's an IMAP issue for those that have even minor knowledge of how email protocols function. Once the server was taken off line, the email client on the laptop was not able to connect and sync thus the emails remained.

This "newly discovered" laptop is very likely to be literal nuclear waste for Hillary and everyone around her

The link above contains a link to the article. Below is a quote from that article.

Pretty sure the tards believed every one of the last 50 leaks were finally going to reveal that connection to the lizard people.

Props though to the special educators of america for miraculously teaching these folks how to write passable english.
 

zinfamous

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I'm still waiting for the revelation that the FBI is actually looking at new Clinton emails.