FBI reopens investigation into Clinton email use

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sportage

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For anyone interested....
#1. The FBI is "looking into a possible need" to reopen.
The FBI HAS NOT reopened anything. They are just "looking" thru these emails to see """ IF """ they might see some reason.
Stick to the facts fellas....

and...

#2. These ARE NOT Hillary emails.These are emails from Weiner's wife.
Because they were on a computer that both Weiner's had access to and Weiner's wife worked for Hillary, THAT is the only reason for any FBI interest.
One Weiner had security clearance.
The other Weiner did not.
So.... since both Weiner's "MAY" have used this one computer device then the FBI needs to check what the emails were that involved this Clinton employee i.e. Mrs Weiner, and to make sure the other Weiner did not see or have access to any possible security related communication, IF ANY EXISTED IN THE FRIST PLACE.

So, while Trump and "some" republicans can have fun getting their panties all in a knot over this, these are not Hillary emails. These are Mrs Weiner's emails on HER computer thingy, and only the FBI concern here is for THE DEVICE itself.
Who had access?
What did and to whom did Mrs Weiner email?
Was national security involved?
And if so, did Mr Weiner have access to the emails?

I still have to point out that were talking THE WEINER's,
or.....
A REAL D I C K ... (i.e. Donald Trump).
I'll go with the Weiner.
 

IGBT

Lifer
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..but wait. Can't hillary simply say she doesn't remember?? didn't that work a few times before? Then she can have another seizure or two and slide into home base!!
 

Sunburn74

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Honestly I can't believe IT stuff is so important right now. IT SECURITY! You can't make this stuff up.
 

theeedude

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It looks political because it is political. He himself says "Of course, we don't ordinarily tell Congress about ongoing investigations."
So he is singling out Hillary's case, because of the politics involved. It's simply staggeringly bad judgment on his part.
 
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Jhhnn

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So Comey is admitting to the FBI that he is treating Hillary differently than "ordinary" cases, despite "significant risk of being misunderstood," which could cause irreparable harm to an innocent person and the nation. That's his idea of impartiality? He should resign.

Gawd. You're going on like the right fringe-whacks did back in July when Comey didn't say what they wanted to hear. Comey has the right to cover his ass which is all he's done. Put yourself in his shoes.
 

theeedude

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Gawd. You're going on like the right fringe-whacks did back in July when Comey didn't say what they wanted to hear. Comey has the right to cover his ass which is all he's done. Put yourself in his shoes.
He put himself in these shoes when he went out of his way to do the press conference and testify in Congress on a case where his own decision was that Hillary was innocent of any crime. He had no business commenting on this.
 
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UglyCasanova

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It looks political because it is political. He himself says "Of course, we don't ordinarily tell Congress about ongoing investigations."
So he is singling out Hillary's case, because of the politics involved. It's simply staggeringly bad judgment on his part.


No it's good judgement on his part to tell congress that new evidence emerged on a case that he testified to them before was finished. No need to tell us the public and you can thank congress critters for that, but he was obligated to disclose to them.
 

SP33Demon

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Something big was found in those emails, Comey wouldn't have gone public otherwise. Shitlibs are running for the hills, I love it. TRUMP 2016, bitches
 

zinfamous

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Yeh, it kinda pulled the chain of the mindless "Lock her up!" faction.
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I mean, because
 

nickqt

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The gist of all of this is that Comey is covering his own ass, just in case, and that all things being equally likely, there is no there, there, just like there was no there there, last time.

If it weren't for the fact that it's a bunch of legalese, Comey's common speech letter would read, "hey, y'all, we might have found some more email, but we're not sure, so heads up".

For everyone else, this is a great lesson in how the media is not libruul, but is, in fact, a major proponent of BothSidesDoIt™, because when you're attempting to sell people boner pills, alcohol, cars, and credit cards, it doesn't make sense to offend roughly half of your customer base.

Of course, the conservatives who are grasping at straws are going to come along and assume that THIS IS FINALLY IT HILDABEAST IS GOING TO PRISON!, and imbeciles like IGBT are going to semantically vomit up his own irrational, scattered delusions.

So, all in all, this is all par for the course. The media is going to get its horserace and will earn more profits in doing so.

This is why we can't have a functioning country.
 

theeedude

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No it's good judgement on his part to tell congress that new evidence emerged on a case that he testified to them before was finished. No need to tell us the public and you can thank congress critters for that, but he was obligated to disclose to them.
That's not what he said in the internal email.
"Of course, we don’t ordinarily tell Congress about ongoing investigations, but here I feel an obligation to do so given that I testified repeatedly in recent months that our investigation was completed."
So the only obligation to disclose to Congress was one he felt took upon himself by testifying in Congress in the first place.
 
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Oh, but you forgot Vincent Foster, Travelgate, WhiteWater, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, the Email Server, and Benghazi.

Oh, and the Email Server.

Why oh why does everyone forget Kathleen Willey's poor assassinated cat?! Now *that* was the *real* crime!!!!
 

UglyCasanova

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That's not what he said in the internal email.
"Of course, we don’t ordinarily tell Congress about ongoing investigations, but here I feel an obligation to do so given that I testified repeatedly in recent months that our investigation was completed."
So the only obligation to disclose to Congress was one he felt took upon himself by testifying in Congress in the first place.


Your panties are in such a wad over this. If you were FBI director in the same situation you would do the same exact thing.
 

emperus

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No it's good judgement on his part to tell congress that new evidence emerged on a case that he testified to them before was finished. No need to tell us the public and you can thank congress critters for that, but he was obligated to disclose to them.

He was not obligated. There is no law that says he was. And no need to do so 11 days out of an election with documents that he isn't even sure are pertinent.
 

sontakke

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The question is "Was Comey compelled to testify before the congress back then?" Or did he volunteer his presence on the hill at that time? I would presume nobody is stupid enough to volunteer for congressional grilling and still reach a position as high as FBI director.
 

agent00f

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Conservatives like to believe gov employees are all a bunch of bumbling idiots, only need to look to Comey for a counterexample. Does basically nothing and has them in an orgy of love and wishful thinking.
 

Starbuck1975

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Well that's really how it looks. Essentially he is disclosing something that in almost any other case, he would never disclose. The FBI investigates so many cases on a daily basis and gets new information every day about cases that are both opened and closed. How many of these "newly discovered possible pieces of evidence" do you hear about? You don't hear about them because its stupid and dangerous to let every tom, john, and harry know about every useful and non-useful piece of information the FBI acquires, talk less of how it may be potentially damaging to the very case you are trying to bring forward. To prosecutors and people with a law background, it appears highly questionable to do this sort of thing. Highly questionable indeed.
I heard a talking head today claim that because Comey testified under oath, and because new emails in scope for his investigation became exposed through the Weiner investigation, that he was legally required to disclose it.
 

SP33Demon

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He was not obligated. There is no law that says he was. And no need to do so 11 days out of an election with documents that he isn't even sure are pertinent.
Yep, he's in pure CYA mode. Either he's trying to distract from the WL or it's something big, otherwise he wouldn't have rocked the boat this hard. Something big is about to hit.
 

guachi

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With this letter today, Comey has destroyed whatever credibility he had left. A vague letter he had to know would be construed the way that the Republicans and the media construed it. And yet it is a total nothing burger.

Comey is a hack and should resign in disgrace.
 

pcgeek11

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He put himself in these shoes when he went out of his way to do the press conference and testify in Congress on a case where his own decision was that Hillary was innocent of any crime. He had no business commenting on this.


Well he never said that Hillary was innocent of any crime.

What he said was he didn't find anything that in his opinion a prosecutor would persue.
 

Jhhnn

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I heard a talking head today claim that because Comey testified under oath, and because new emails in scope for his investigation became exposed through the Weiner investigation, that he was legally required to disclose it.
Previously linked-

Why did FBI Director James Comey shock Washington on Friday with an announcement that the FBI “has learned of the existence of emails” related to Hillary Clinton’s private email server, and what does it mean?The truth is Comey didn’t have a choice. Because the new information followed his sworn testimony about the case, Comey was obligated by Department of Justice rules to keep the relevant committees apprised.Under oath Comey had stated that the bureau had completed its review. Once he learned that there were new emails that required examination, Comey had to notify Congress that he had to amend his testimony because it was no longer true.

https://thinkprogress.org/the-fbi-d...he-media-wants-you-to-aa61e81e5a97#.10haek1o2

Pretty straightforward.
 

SP33Demon

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USA Politics
Why FBI dropped email bombshell on Clinton now

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The discovery of new emails has prompted the FBI to restart an investigation into Hillary Clinton's private server, just 11 days before the election. For the FBI, it is a no-win situation.


By Mark Sappenfield, Staff writer October 28, 2016
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Heading into the final full week of the presidential election, the Federal Bureau of Investigation has given this most bizarre of elections perhaps its most remarkable twist.

It informed Congress Friday that it is investigating whether there is classified information in new emails linked to Hillary Clinton. In July, the FBI had said its investigation of Mrs. Clinton’s private server was finished.

The disclosure raises the possibility of the FBI reopening the criminal investigation involving the Democratic presidential nominee just days before the election. It also raises the possibility that nothing whatsoever will happen and Clinton will be cleared.

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The timing is extraordinary. The closest recent parallel was when the FBI on Oct. 10, 1972, suggested that President Nixon’s reelection committee was linked to a campaign of political spying and sabotage. Though the scandal eventually led to Nixon’s resignation, it had no significant effect on the election one month later. Nixon won in a landslide.


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But that was at a time of dramatically lower partisanship. In the current campaign, Friday’s announcement could be explosive.

Already, the conservative National Review is calling it “the mother of all October surprises.”

“There is no way the FBI publicly re-opens this investigation on the eve of a presidential election if the new e-mails contained information about yoga routines or wedding plans,” writes staff writer David French.

That might not necessarily be the case, however. The New York Times reports that the emails were found during the FBI’s investigation of former Rep. Anthony Weiner (D) of New York over text messages sent to a 15-year-old girl. Mr. Weiner’s estranged wife, Huma Abedin, apparently shared at least one of the devices being investigated, the Times reports.

A new batch of Clinton emails was discovered on the device – perhaps tens of thousands of emails, the Times reports. The FBI is taking steps to “determine whether they contain classified information, as well as to assess their importance to our investigation,” FBI Director James Comey wrote to Congress.

What seems most likely at a moment of some upheaval is that, whatever the emails turn out to be, Mr. Comey clearly could not sit on them.

What if, after weeks or months of review, the FBI eventually finds nothing at all wrong with the emails – yet they dramatically damage Clinton, who currently holds a steady lead, according to most polls?

Comey risks changing the course of an enormously consequential election for nothing.

Yet, what if he chose to wait and not disrupt the election at a crucial time – only for his investigation to find criminal wrongdoing by a woman who was now the president of the United States?

He would risk very real charges of political conspiracy in an election season that has been rife with them.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2016/1028/Why-FBI-dropped-email-bombshell-on-Clinton-now

The key words are: "he could not sit on them [emails]". We aren't talking about grocery lists, which color couch to buy, or cat videos. The content was such that Comey had to notify Congress.
 

SP33Demon

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Dude you've been hiding in the hills for months like a coward.
You're the coward who needs to get a life. I'm now deadlifting 555lbs at a weight of 198 (setting state records for my age) and just had a baby. WTF have you done with your life? Nothing except circle jerk in this libtard echo-chamber and get fat. FYI, your candidate is shit and is about to lose an election. Since this is your whole life, what's left for you now? lulz