FBI catches would-be terrorist who circumvented the TSA

[irishScott]

by never having an airport or plane anywhere in the equation. Obviously we need full-body scanners and pat downs at every public Christmas Tree lighting ceremony from here on out. Sucks but hey, it's the price of lighting up a Christmas Tree in America nowadays.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/28/us/28portland.html?_r=1&hp

Seriously, an attempted terrorist attack thwarted, and you think that 12 hours later you're the first to post about it??
REPOST. -Admin DrPizza

 

[spidey07]

Damn dude, it's only a few posts below you. Oh, and notice it was a MUSLIM that tried it just because the media fails to mention that.

 

[irishScott]

Damn dude, it's only a few posts below you. Oh, and notice it was a MUSLIM that tried it just because the media fails to mention that.

At least my title's better.

 

[rudeguy]

At least my title's better.

what do your boobs have to do with this?

 

[Infohawk]

Actually your title is horrible. It hides a decent story in more nonsense about the TSA which is not at all relevant to this story.

 

[boomerang]

what do your boobs have to do with this?

Took a sec on this one. LMAO

 

[irishScott]

Actually your title is horrible. It hides a decent story in more nonsense about the TSA which is not at all relevant to this story.

So I gather you're one of those who believes that reactionary, ineffective, invasive searches are the answer to terrorism?

My point was that despite the TSA's huge size, budget, and apparent power to violate the Constitution, they have done next to nothing to protect us from terrorism as a whole. This event is one example of that.

And yes, I think this story is more useful as a support of said argument as opposed to a stand-alone, as here the FBI, just doing its usual job with its usual budget, did more than the TSA has ever done.

 

[Infohawk]

So I gather you're one of those who believes that reactionary, ineffective, invasive searches are the answer to terrorism?

My point was that despite the TSA's huge size, budget, and apparent power to violate the Constitution, they have done next to nothing to protect us from terrorism as a whole. This event is one example of that.

And yes, I think this story is more useful as a support of said argument as opposed to a stand-alone, as here the FBI is just doing it's job. Nothing to really see here.

Try to think more clearly. You're so obsessed with the TSA you're seeing connections that aren't there. The FBI catching someone doesn't prove anything about the TSA, especially when the planned attack did not involve planes!

 

[spidey07]

So I gather you're one of those who believes that reactionary, ineffective, invasive searches are the answer to terrorism?

My point was that despite the TSA's huge size, budget, and apparent power to violate the Constitution, they have done next to nothing to protect us from terrorism as a whole. This event is one example of that.

And yes, I think this story is more useful as a support of said argument as opposed to a stand-alone, as here the FBI, just doing i's usual job with its usual budget, did more than the TSA has ever done.

/devils advocate, but with a lot of common sense behind it

TSA has effectively eliminated threat of underwear bomber or the threat of making a bomb on plane with carry on stuff. Butt bomb? Not so much.

So what would your strategy be if your enemy has countermeasures for your attack? Develop new attacks and recruit from the inside, which is what we've seen from most of these muslim attacks. We are at war, whether we want to accept it or not. I accept it and will continue to keep my own safety in my own hands.

Notice the continuation of the profile. Young, arabic, muslim, ties to other terrorist countries. If it smells like a muslim enemy, it is the enemy.

 

[irishScott]

Try to think more clearly. You're so obsessed with the TSA you're seeing connections that aren't there. The FBI catching someone doesn't prove anything about the TSA, especially when the planned attack did not involve planes!

It helps to prove that terrorists can target something other than aircraft. Meaning that even if you patted down everyone who went through an airport, it still wouldn't stop terrorism or mass loss of life due to it.

Despite having much less stringent security measures, it seems that these other, supposedly less secure sectors (ie: public Christmas Tree lighting ceremonies) are just as safe if not safer than the airports.

 

[Infohawk]

It helps to prove that terrorists can target something other than aircraft.

Which really nobody disagrees with... just let your fail fizzle out please...

 

[irishScott]

Which really nobody disagrees with... just let your fail fizzle out please...

Not when directly apporached on the subject no. But there are more than a few here who act like the TSA and the measures they've taken are a legitimate bastion against terrorism. Reality is they can only do so much, and even if TSA policy does successfully lock down the airlines, the terrorists will just strike somewhere else. Making all that draconian inefficiency and over-the-top budget completely worthless. Better to make procedure as efficient as possible to maintain that same level of security without compromising the constitution. Never mind the indirect attempt to foster a culture of fear.

 

[irishScott]

/devils advocate, but with a lot of common sense behind it

TSA has effectively eliminated threat of underwear bomber or the threat of making a bomb on plane with carry on stuff. Butt bomb? Not so much.

So what would your strategy be if your enemy has countermeasures for your attack? Develop new attacks and recruit from the inside, which is what we've seen from most of these muslim attacks. We are at war, whether we want to accept it or not. I accept it and will continue to keep my own safety in my own hands.

Notice the continuation of the profile. Young, arabic, muslim, ties to other terrorist countries. If it smells like a muslim enemy, it is the enemy.

And what's going to happen if the TSA does catch a terrorist on the scanner? Not like the guy's going to just throw up his hands and say "oh well, you got me. " Nope. It's going to be the terrorist remix of Boom! Boom! Pow! and that entire segment of the security line, including the TSA agents, are going to be dead.

The solution is to take out our enemy, and that is a complex issue that pointless invasions and unconstitutional security checks simply don't address.

 

[hal2kilo]

Actually your title is horrible. It hides a decent story in more nonsense about the TSA which is not at all relevant to this story.

Yea, but when Rush plants thought in your mind you just have to regugitate, thinking is not necessary.