SirStev0

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Seriously, how haven't we replaced this technology?
Granted it is much better than mail but who honestly has a fax machine?

I have to fax or mail something in. It is in a nice little document on my computer that could in seconds be emailed anywhere.
Apparently my school shuns the idea of the ease of email.

Do I have any options to send an Email to a Fax?
If not, how do we not have this technology in a readily available App for my phone?

Google just gives me a bunch of sites I don't even trust to click on.
There has to be a better option.
 

Red Squirrel

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It's sad, but there's lot of people who think it's more secure. Fax is actually 100x more critical at the hospital I work at, than email.

The government is behind the times and thinks it's more secure. Reality is, it's not. It's easier to tap a phone line and hook up a fax machine to intercept a fax than it is to tap a fiber line to transcode to the TCP level then intercept an email. To make things even harder the emails could be encrypted, and the key sent via a separate medium. So for example hospitals that talk to each other all the time are usually on a VPN tunnel, so everything is encrypted anyway. For 3rd parties, an encrypted file/email could be sent and the key communicated via phone or something.

Fax is basically "clear text".
 

D1gger

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Some legal documents seem to be acceptable in fax form, but are not in scanned then emailed form. I was told by one individual that the scanned PDF's can be altered, and that makes them less acceptable.
 

paulney

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Good luck trying to get a document signed quickly without the use of fax. eFax is what we use on practically 95% of our work orders for the clients. 5% is where clients go through the trouble of scanning the document and e-mailing it back to us. The rest just print it out, sign and stick it into the fax machine which dials our eFax line.
 

EagleKeeper

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Fax document are considered to be legally binding. They are an image and a receipt is generated as proof of delivery
 

MotionMan

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I have changed all of my settlement agreements and stipulations to include the following:

"This [Agreement and Release/Stipulation] may be signed in multiple counterparts which shall be binding upon the parties hereto as if all said parties executed the original hereof. A facsimile or e-mail/electronic copy of this [Agreement and Release/Stipulation] or any counterpart thereto shall be valid as an original."

Avoids many headaches.

MotionMan, Esq.
 

arcenite

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I signed up for srfax.com when buying a house. I still use it every now and again.
 

spidey07

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Fax document are considered to be legally binding. They are an image and a receipt is generated as proof of delivery

This. It's mainly for legal reasons. It's not going away anytime soon. Most legal documents are sent by fax - purchase orders, contracts, whatever...all via fax. Now the receiver can have a nice fax delivery system that turns it into e-mail, but it's still needs to be a fax from the sender (who can also have an e-mail fax sending system).
 

spidey07

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I have changed all of my settlement agreements and stipulations to include the following:

"This [Agreement and Release/Stipulation] may be signed in multiple counterparts which shall be binding upon the parties hereto as if all said parties executed the original hereof. A facsimile or e-mail/electronic copy of this [Agreement and Release/Stipulation] or any counterpart thereto shall be valid as an original."

Avoids many headaches.

MotionMan, Esq.

I know you're an attorney, but I wouldn't sign that. Blame my corporate overlords for that.
 

coldmeat

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I know my dad, who is a tin smith, is trying to stop using faxes but a lot of the guys he works with still want to use them. They will draw up a fitting or a duct they need made, then just fax it over. It's a lot easier for them than to scan and email it, since a lot of these guys don't even know how to check their email.
 

Specop 007

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I spend more time than I should trying to get that goddamn technology to work on fiber services. I fucking hate faxes. Hate them.
 

SirStev0

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I broke down and went to my local library and faxed it.

Thankfully they were open. It is really going to suck in a few years when they start vanishing.
 

spidey07

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I broke down and went to my local library and faxed it.

Thankfully they were open. It is really going to suck in a few years when they start vanishing.

Fax isn't going away anytime in the next 10 years. It's how business is done.
 

seepy83

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Fax isn't going away anytime in the next 10 years. It's how business is done.

I totally agree with you. But it is definitely ridiculous when someone is scanning a document and attaching it to an "email" to fax from their Outlook client, and the recipient's fax server is converting the fax into an image file and attaching it to an email that's sent to the recipient's Outlook inbox.
 

spidey07

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I totally agree with you. But it is definitely ridiculous when someone is scanning a document and attaching it to an "email" to fax from their Outlook client, and the recipient's fax server is converting the fax into an image file and attaching it to an email that's sent to the recipient's Outlook inbox.

It's a legal thing.
 

Exterous

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The last place I worked used RightFax. You tie a phone number to the account and use the exchange server plug in to route it to mailboxes. Anything you attach to an email and email to a fax number is converted to a PDF. Any fax that comes in to that phone number is converted to tiff, pdf, jpg (your choice)

It was pretty handy and pretty easy to manage