Father pays outstanding child support, still gets jail time

[shadow9d9]

Actually, better move: don't have kids. Keep it in your pants, until you've grown up enough to be a responsible adult, who can find another responsible adult to then marry and have kids with.

Too often, divorce (and the subsequent custody battles) results from two immature people who get married because they're "in love".....then realize, after a kid or two, that they can't stand each other.

That is incredibly naive.

 

[SandEagle]

if i was the judge, i'd have sentenced the ex-wife to 10 years in prison for obstruction of justice, noise violation, disorderly conduct, contempt, and nagging. Unfortunately these are all qualities of all women.

 

[Mai72]

That is incredibly naive.

Lol. Of course it's very naive. Life does not work like that. You live in the moment. When is the right time? When you're 50 years old? When you meet someone that you love the last thing you think about is divorce. Life happens. You get married, have children and the years pass. I know people that have been married for 30 years, and they are now divorced.

 

[Dari]

1. Always pull out.

if not 1 then

2. It's cheaper to keep her.

 

[boomhower]

How is he supposed to pay his child support from jail and not working? Seems like it's going to punish the child just as much as the father. The decision certainly seems to be intended to punish the father and doesn't have the best interest of the child in mind, which should be the priority here.

 

[KK]

seems like someone needs to kill that judge.

 

[alkemyst]

1. Failure to pay child support can land you in jail.

2. Suddenly paying it all back after you've already been charged somehow absolves you?

3. Hire the world's shittiest attorney to defend you.

4. Be charged with contempt, then walk out of courtroom.

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Exactly.

My fiancee's ex is $40k behind on support. He skates by because our child support offices are too happy to get any money from someone.

He basically goes 90 days past due, gets his drivers license suspended and drives until he finally gets stopped. Then he pays a single month's payment without the arrears.

He even recently took her to court to get his monthly payment reduced to something HE could afford monthly. They agreed and even recomputed the arrears based on the new figure going back to day one. That cut $10k right off the top of the past due amount.

After that court date they gave him 90 days to start complying (why? I have no clue)...90 days later he made no payment and that started a 90 day counter. 6 months later he made a partial payment so still lost his driver's license again.

That was his last payment made around October.

It's not that easy to get a dead-beat dad put in jail esp if they are self-employed and refuse to provide requested documentation to the court.

 

[WelshBloke]

1. Failure to pay child support can land you in jail.

2. Suddenly paying it all back after you've already been charged somehow absolves you?

3. Hire the world's shittiest attorney to defend you.

4. Be charged with contempt, then walk out of courtroom.






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Yeah, sounds like he paid everything at the last moment so as to get the court to go easy on him. Thing is by doing that it doesn't make the other sides legal fees suddenly disappear, someone still has to pay them.

 

[Rebel44]

Exactly.

My fiancee's ex is $40k behind on support. He skates by because our child support offices are too happy to get any money from someone.

He basically goes 90 days past due, gets his drivers license suspended and drives until he finally gets stopped. Then he pays a single month's payment without the arrears.

He even recently took her to court to get his monthly payment reduced to something HE could afford monthly. They agreed and even recomputed the arrears based on the new figure going back to day one. That cut $10k right off the top of the past due amount.

After that court date they gave him 90 days to start complying (why? I have no clue)...90 days later he made no payment and that started a 90 day counter. 6 months later he made a partial payment so still lost his driver's license again.

That was his last payment made around October.

It's not that easy to get a dead-beat dad put in jail esp if they are self-employed and refuse to provide requested documentation to the court.

Cant you get his income garnished by court order?

 

[alkemyst]

Cant you get his income garnished by court order?

He is self-employed.

However; if a person doesn't volunteer their employer, a garnishment is equally impossible.

There is a lot of things I have learned that if you don't co-operate, there isn't much they can do.

For instance, in many divorce proceedings you are responsible to reporting wired money like Western Union/MoneyPac/etc. These are pretty untraceable unless you acknowledge them.

 

[Attic]

Uh,…

Standard.

Our laws and legal system are two tiered. Easy street for rich and or famous, and shit stain road for everybody else.

Don't have a lot of money or the right name?, fuck off and die.

There's a reason why there is a web of laws, it's so they can be applied selectively to trap certain folks and let others walk free and still claim that there is a just legal system in the US. Look at all are laws we uphold*! (*selectively).

 

[FelixDeCat]

lol

 

[MrPickins]

I bet its not the whole story. Must be a reason.

If want to her a disgusting story about over the top alimony listen to Dave Foleys stand up routine on Netflix. His ex wife is soaking him.

My wife and I in the front row for that taping and got his autograph:

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/MrPickins/Newsradio2.jpg

Yeah, his wife really screwed him over with full assistance from the Canadian courts.

 

[middlehead]

2. Suddenly paying it all back after you've already been charged somehow absolves you?

If he has proof that the fault in falling behind lies with his employer's payroll department, absolutely.

 

[mikeford]

Life's tough, its a lot tougher if you're stupid.

 

[zinfamous]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1...out-child-support-the-kids-in-the-hall_people

Holy ****ing shit! 😱

😱

I just saw him on the first episode of Maron. Very small part, but from the script, I thought there was something in RL going on.

wow.

fucking court.

 

[zinfamous]

Exactly.

My fiancee's ex is $40k behind on support. He skates by because our child support offices are too happy to get any money from someone.

He basically goes 90 days past due, gets his drivers license suspended and drives until he finally gets stopped. Then he pays a single month's payment without the arrears.

He even recently took her to court to get his monthly payment reduced to something HE could afford monthly. They agreed and even recomputed the arrears based on the new figure going back to day one. That cut $10k right off the top of the past due amount.

After that court date they gave him 90 days to start complying (why? I have no clue)...90 days later he made no payment and that started a 90 day counter. 6 months later he made a partial payment so still lost his driver's license again.

That was his last payment made around October.

It's not that easy to get a dead-beat dad put in jail esp if they are self-employed and refuse to provide requested documentation to the court.

why should he pay more than he can currently afford?

would the family's life situation have changed if they were still married, and his job and income was reduced?

yes, it would have. and everyone would have to adjust, if the parents were responsible.

you are engaged to this woman. when does his responsibility end?

don't get me wrong, Alky, I respect you for taking on a woman with kids and taking care of the kids. But certainly you don't expect him to be held completely responsible after a certain point, right?

 

[Spungo]

Remember, courts will almost always side with the woman.

I've met quite a few men who say they will never get married or have kids because of this. I bet most will get married and have kids, but some of them might stick with it.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

The real losers here are the kids. Divorce is horribly destructive.

Unfortunately so is 'staying together for the kids'. Thinking the kids won't notice the growing gap between their parents is extremely naive and can cause the kids to end up with severely messed up social skills.

 

[PowerEngineer]

I bet its not the whole story. Must be a reason.

My thought too. It'd be interesting to know just why this matter had to be taken to court in the first place, which apparently required his ex-wife to rack up $3k in legal expenses. I could be wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't all that interested in fixing the problems until she took him to court. If so, then it seems to me he should be held responsible for her legal expenses.

 

[DAGTA]

I've met quite a few men who say they will never get married or have kids because of this. I bet most will get married and have kids, but some of them might stick with it.

It would take a remarkable woman to convince me to get married. In the USA, there is no benefit to men in getting married. For women, it's a golden parachute.

I don't want kids anyway, but the divorces I've seen definitely add more reason to not have kids.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Gender equality at it's finest. It isn't equal unless women gets a better deal out of things.

 

[Sea Moose]

Imagine getting married at a young age. Through hard work you become wildly successful and start earning good money. You have 2 lovely children and the years go by. One day you come home early and you find your wife doing the pool guy. She wants a divorce. She automatically gets half plus a large check each month for child support. What a system!

It would be easier to kill the pool guy and wife.

Kill the wife quick... torture the pool guy

Get medieval

 

[shadow9d9]

Exactly.

My fiancee's ex is $40k behind on support. He skates by because our child support offices are too happy to get any money from someone.

He basically goes 90 days past due, gets his drivers license suspended and drives until he finally gets stopped. Then he pays a single month's payment without the arrears.

He even recently took her to court to get his monthly payment reduced to something HE could afford monthly. They agreed and even recomputed the arrears based on the new figure going back to day one. That cut $10k right off the top of the past due amount.

After that court date they gave him 90 days to start complying (why? I have no clue)...90 days later he made no payment and that started a 90 day counter. 6 months later he made a partial payment so still lost his driver's license again.

That was his last payment made around October.

It's not that easy to get a dead-beat dad put in jail esp if they are self-employed and refuse to provide requested documentation to the court.

How much does she make and put towards the kids? 0, right?

 

[NFS4]

How much does she make and put towards the kids? 0, right?

That's what I don't understand. If the father is putting forth, say $500 per month, then the mom should be putting an equal amount towards the kid PER MONTH.