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You theory WOULD hold true BUT............................................
1) Guy was shot
2) Shooter runs off
3) Guy pumping gas CONTINUES TO PUMP GAS!!!!!!!!!!!!
If he felt that he would have been shot, he would have ducked for cover.
I wouldn't expect the guy to get in the way of the bullet, but after the shooter ran off, he should have helped.
This is DC we are talking about here. If people stopped every time a shooting happened, they would have no time to pick up their welfare checks. 
I was involved in a shooting that left my best friend dead. It happened in San Diego, in the gaslamp. All of the people on the outdoor patio kept eating, finishing their meals even though his bleeding corpse was about 50 feet away.
People are bizarre sometimes.
difference as i see it is, she was in a car and could have run him over if he got in the way....this shooter left the scene and there was no harm nearby to the people at the pumps
I am no legal expert, but I am sure there is a misdemeanor charge associated with this kind of incident, which could be introduced should some of these scumbags be found. Similar to failure to render aid where traffic accidents are involved.
The guy's obviously retarded, but he had to have thought it was a prank or something. Nobody is that complacent when it comes to someone dying next to them unless they're part of Saddam's family.
People don't get involved, because they don't trust the police for whatever reason. Either they don't trust the police to protect them from reprecussions, or don't want to be linked to any crimes.
He very well could have come back to shoot more people - if he's stupid enough to shoot someone in broad daylight with witnesses I wouldn't take any chances.
Yeah, I think the BIGGEST region people do nothing in the face of such a crime is the fear of involvement. Wether they will get involved or not, they dont know, and theyd rather not risk "someone coming after them". Same reason people flee a scene or look away. I know that would be my first thought, cowardly or not..."If I help this guy, will someone come after me?"
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yup. If there is, ive never heard of anything like it. Most I have heard of is when you try to help someone, and they die because you tried to help them, you are protected under the good samaritan laws. thats the closest...i will ask my law professor tomorrow though and get back to you guys.
Nope. I'm a certified American Red Cross First Aid/CPR instructor, and there is no law that requires me to give aid if I come across someone who is injured. (Would I give aid, anyway..? Of course!
) The same applies to doctors, nurses, EMT's, etc. Think about it... Otherwise, if one of us ever drove past a fender-bender on the road we would always have to stop to make sure no one was injured! Now some locales do have "failure to render aid" laws. They are usually used to jack up more charges against hit-and-run drivers, but could probably be applied in this case as well.On a related note, in regard to Good Samaritan laws: They differ slightly per state. Good Sam Laws But the bottom line behind them is to remove the fear of being sued from the equation for a rescuer who wishes to provide aid.
Now in this case it appears some people intentionally ignored a dying man, for reasons we don't yet know. I'm interested to hear what they say when they are tracked down... Pitiful.
dang, I can't watch the video because i'm not a subscriber. How are all you guys watching it? are you all subscribers?
Wow. I read the comments at fark on this one, this is another mark against humanity. I sure hope they find the people who took off...er... finished up their business then continued on with their day as normal. UGH. Makes me sick to think of this.
well...some people just care more than others...
some might just leave the scene quickly, refusing to be a part of anything
others might help, doing what's "right" in their view
while others might just carry on like nothing happened...
I think society generally if focused on the individual now more than ever...
the whole "looking out for yourself" is in full effect, as you can see in schools, work, and in this case, gas stations
some might just leave the scene quickly, refusing to be a part of anything
others might help, doing what's "right" in their view
while others might just carry on like nothing happened...
I think society generally if focused on the individual now more than ever...
the whole "looking out for yourself" is in full effect, as you can see in schools, work, and in this case, gas stations
Last I heard a few years ago, there were no "duty to help" laws. One state was considering passing one at the time, but the other 49 states and D.C. didn't have any such thing. There's a long legal history behind this line of reasoning.
A very quick search of D.C. law online didn't turn up anything.
D.C. Criminal Laws
As mentioned previously, the Kitty Genovese incident in New York demonstrates the Social Psychological phenomenon of responsibility avoidance in groups of people. That is, everyone in a group believes that someone else will help an injured person. Since everyone believes that someone else will help, or has already called the police, no one does anything. In this case, I assume the same thing happened.
However, in favor of those who didn't help:
It's possible with the increased popularity of "prank" TV shows, some of the people on the scene may have believed that the man really had not been shot. Hopefully, they'll think twice next time.
Also, some might have believed the shots fired were simply the sounds of a car backfiring. After all, they were at a gas station. And although the CNN article doesn't mention where in D.C. the incident occurred, there are some parts of D.C. where a bum lying on the ground is a common occurrence.
If I had been there, I like to think that I would have checked the victim out and called 911.
A very quick search of D.C. law online didn't turn up anything.
D.C. Criminal Laws
As mentioned previously, the Kitty Genovese incident in New York demonstrates the Social Psychological phenomenon of responsibility avoidance in groups of people. That is, everyone in a group believes that someone else will help an injured person. Since everyone believes that someone else will help, or has already called the police, no one does anything. In this case, I assume the same thing happened.
However, in favor of those who didn't help:
It's possible with the increased popularity of "prank" TV shows, some of the people on the scene may have believed that the man really had not been shot. Hopefully, they'll think twice next time.
Also, some might have believed the shots fired were simply the sounds of a car backfiring. After all, they were at a gas station. And although the CNN article doesn't mention where in D.C. the incident occurred, there are some parts of D.C. where a bum lying on the ground is a common occurrence.
If I had been there, I like to think that I would have checked the victim out and called 911.
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