Fat people should pay for two seats on a flight.

[inhotep]

Originally posted by: hjo3
For that matter, why should my tax dollars go towards maternity wards in federally funded hospitals? After all, I can't have a baby.

One of the fundamental principles of this country is that, for the most part, costs are distributed. This bleeds over into semi-private sector business as well. If you're going to push for this one change, why not go all out? Or is it just fat air travelers you have something against?

the difference is socialist and capitalist

 

[scottish144]

YES!!!! It will urge fat people to loose weight, thus making the US skinnier. It would also help the air-lines from going bakrupt, and keep other passengers happy. For all of you who say no, picture this:
You're sitting next to a huge 350 lb person on a plane, in eco class. The seats are close together, and their lard is spilling over onto your seat. You can't eve use the armrest control panel without massaging their inch-thick layer of lard. Its an 8 hour flight, so you're tired as hell, and go to sleep. U wake up with your head resting on a fat pillow of lard (to make it even better, the fat person looks at u and smiles). Now imagine the FEELING of the above. Point proven.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: hjo3
For that matter, why should my tax dollars go towards maternity wards in federally funded hospitals? After all, I can't have a baby.

One of the fundamental principles of this country is that, for the most part, costs are distributed. This bleeds over into semi-private sector business as well. If you're going to push for this one change, why not go all out? Or is it just fat air travelers you have something against?

That's true for easily distributed costs, such as fuel, but doesn't apply when someone is physically taking up two seats. Sorry.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: scottish144
You're sitting next to a huge 350 lb person on a plain, in eco class. The seats are close together, and their lard is spilling over onto your seat. You can't eve use the armrest control panel without massaging their inch-thick layer of lard. Its an 8 hour flight, so you're tired as hell, and go to sleep. U wake up with your head resting on a fat pillow of lard (to make it even better, the fat person looks at u and smiles). Now imagine the FEELING of the above. Point proven.

Been there, done that. Economy sucks.

Perhaps that's why I go First Class these days 😀

 

[hjo3]

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: hjo3
For that matter, why should my tax dollars go towards maternity wards in federally funded hospitals? After all, I can't have a baby.

One of the fundamental principles of this country is that, for the most part, costs are distributed. This bleeds over into semi-private sector business as well. If you're going to push for this one change, why not go all out? Or is it just fat air travelers you have something against?

That's true for easily distributed costs, such as fuel, but doesn't apply when someone is physically taking up two seats. Sorry.

I'm talking about the weight issue people are complaining about. How the overweight are "using up more fuel." Volume is pretty basic since that's the implied method by which seats are already sold.

 

[hjo3]

Originally posted by: inhotep

Originally posted by: hjo3
For that matter, why should my tax dollars go towards maternity wards in federally funded hospitals? After all, I can't have a baby.

One of the fundamental principles of this country is that, for the most part, costs are distributed. This bleeds over into semi-private sector business as well. If you're going to push for this one change, why not go all out? Or is it just fat air travelers you have something against?

the difference is socialist and capitalist

Your point?

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: hjo3
I'm talking about the weight issue people are complaining about. How the overweight are "using up more fuel." Volume is pretty basic since that's the implied method by which seats are already sold.

Now we're getting into simple physics. Lifting a bigger mass takes more energy. Pretty simple.

 

[sniperruff]

fat people should have to swipe their metrocards twice to get in.

 

[Banana]

Originally posted by: daniel1113
That's true for easily distributed costs, such as fuel, but doesn't apply when someone is physically taking up two seats. Sorry.

I bow to you. I kept thinking WEIGHT, but the issue at hand is volume.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Banana

Originally posted by: daniel1113
Why not? Aside from the obvious discomfort caused to other passengers in the near vacinity of an overweight person that overflows into other seats, being overweight has economic effects as well. It takes more fuel, and thus more money, to carry a fat ass across the country, so why shouldn't they pay more? That's not discrimination. It's no different than charging more to people that consume more food at a restaurant.

See my previous post - Airlines do not have such logic for their ticket prices. Theoretically, I should have to pay less for shorter flights right? But nooooooooooo, I have to pay almost a thousand for round tripper to a city 250 miles away.

What if they physically cannot fit in one seat?

 

[hjo3]

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: hjo3
I'm talking about the weight issue people are complaining about. How the overweight are "using up more fuel." Volume is pretty basic since that's the implied method by which seats are already sold.

Now we're getting into simple physics. Lifting a bigger mass takes more energy. Pretty simple.

So? Distributed costs. How is it different from other situations where people pay for things they never make use of themselves?

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: Banana
See my previous post - Airlines do not have such logic for their ticket prices. Theoretically, I should have to pay less for shorter flights right? But nooooooooooo, I have to pay almost a thousand for round tripper to a city 250 miles away.

No, theoritically shorter flights dont always mean less money.

I'd imagine more people fly from LA -> NYC. Thus I wouldn't be surprised if the fare from LA -> NYC is less than that of LA -> _insert_some_no_name_East_Coast_town_. It's simple supply/demand economics

Originally posted by: hjo3
For that matter, why should my tax dollars go towards maternity wards in federally funded hospitals? After all, I can't have a baby.

One of the fundamental principles of this country is that, for the most part, costs are distributed. This bleeds over into semi-private sector business as well. If you're going to push for this one change, why not go all out? Or is it just fat air travelers you have something against?

Theres a difference between government, whose job is to run services for the people and a private sector airline that is supposed to be making a profit.

 

[hjo3]

Originally posted by: dexvx

Originally posted by: hjo3
For that matter, why should my tax dollars go towards maternity wards in federally funded hospitals? After all, I can't have a baby.

One of the fundamental principles of this country is that, for the most part, costs are distributed. This bleeds over into semi-private sector business as well. If you're going to push for this one change, why not go all out? Or is it just fat air travelers you have something against?

Theres a difference between government, whose job is to run services for the people and a private sector airline that is supposed to be making a profit.

But the airlines are subsidized by the government.

 

[Spike]

I think they do need to get two seats. Now I am borderline overweight according to the BMI (6', 185) but I defintly don't spill over as I don't really have a gut at all. These tubs with there fat reach is scary and VERY uncomfortable. That is the one and only reason why I actually like flying on a MD-80. They only have two seats on one side so my wife and I get those, no need to worry about tubby.

-spike

 

[DAGTA]

Airlines have to pay for jet fuel. More weight = more fuel used. Pragmatically, ticket prices that fluctuate somewhat based on weight would be fair since a heavier person does use more fuel than a light person.

 

[marvdmartian]

Define fat. 300 pounds? 350?? Maybe we should come up with some arbitrary height-weight scale, since a 250 pound person that's 5 feet tall is definitely wider than a 250 pound person that's 6 feet tall, right?

Oh, and what about body builders?? Let's say you've got a Mr Olympia contestant sitting next to you, and his wide shoulders go way past the seat on either side? Should he pay more too? Chances are, he's as heavy as the fat person, and just as wide, just in a different area of the body, and with muscle versus fat.

Hey, let's get congress to figure this out. They're legislating us half to death anyways, why not let them do this as well. Shoot, I wouldn't be surprised if someone like Diane Feinstein already has a bill written up for this very scourge upon humanity. She was the one that wanted to ban alcohol on domestic flights a few years back, when we had a handful of drunken idiots visiting air rage on a few flights. 😛

 

[inhotep]

Originally posted by: hjo3

Originally posted by: inhotep

Originally posted by: hjo3
For that matter, why should my tax dollars go towards maternity wards in federally funded hospitals? After all, I can't have a baby.

One of the fundamental principles of this country is that, for the most part, costs are distributed. This bleeds over into semi-private sector business as well. If you're going to push for this one change, why not go all out? Or is it just fat air travelers you have something against?

the difference is socialist and capitalist

Your point?

Well first, what are you implying with this statement: " why should my tax dollars go towards maternity wards in federally funded hospitals?"
Second, gov't don't pay for the air tickets, we do.
Airlines borrowing money from gov't means airlines are borrowing from us.
If you can prove that overweight people pay more taxes than us, purhaps you got a case.
We can't help it if airline CEOs want to keep filling their pockets at the taxpayer's expense. That is what's happening right now.

 

[xirtam]

Maybe if they're taking up two seats and they request two seats they should have to pay for two seats. Otherwise they're paying for something they're not getting/requesting.

 

[inhotep]

"Maybe if they're taking up two seats and they request two seats they should have to pay for two seats. Otherwise they're paying for something they're not getting/requesting."

THey are paying for the extra space required. Hey would it be better to make them purchase First Class or business class seats?

 

[Sheepathon]

Dude, people don't get weighed when they get on a plane. This isn't about weight. If you're so fat you take up two seats (meaning you're like 300+ lbs) then you should pay for two seats.

 

[BurnItDwn]

It depends on how fat ....
Many "fat people" can fit just fine in a single buisness class, economy plus, or first class seat .. so they should just pay for one of those. However, if they overflow the seat still, then they should have to pay for 2 seats.
I am not discriminating against fat people, since I qualify as one...
though for me, my shoulders and height are more important factors in determing my seating on an airplane (6 feet 2 inches tall, I have a very heavy build, even when I wasn't fat, but now I have a sizable gut too)

EDIT:
so to be fair, very tall people should have to pay more for seats with more legroom, and bodybuilders who don't fit into one seat, but are technically still thin, should also be required to pay for the extra seat if needed....

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: Sheepathon
Dude, people don't get weighed when they get on a plane. This isn't about weight. If you're so fat you take up two seats (meaning you're like 300+ lbs) then you should pay for two seats.

This is about to change.

Folks are getting heavier and the extra weight means the plane uses more fuel for the same distance driven.

 

[inhotep]

The reason they don't weight people is because it can be embarrassing. Just ask any women.
no 300ibs person will voluntary buy 2 tickets, even it's a lot cheaper than business class.

 

[nageov3t]

considering the pure tonage of the plane + cargo, I can't see a few people who weigh 350 really causing a real fuel drain with an extra ~150 pounds.

though by that logic, people with don't check any baggage and only have 1 small carry-on like me whenever they fly should get a discount, which would be nice 🙂

 

[Inspector Jihad]

it should be volume...a small fat person could weigh less than a tall muscular person, but the tall guy would stay in his seat...it has to do with volume.